Oak Island the Strange, the Bizarre, and Maybe the "Truth!

[Robot]

At what time of day? What season of the year? It will be all over the night sky depending on the day of the year and between sunrise and sunset. Or, sunset to sunrise - provided you have a clear sky at night in Nova Scotia. Here in NY that's about a 30% chance.

Worthless as "navigation" unless you have a specific time and date. The Earth rotates (you may be unaware or in denial, but it is true). It also wobbles and had a tipped axis so we get things like day and night, and because we orbit the Sun: seasons. A fixed point in the stars is nice, but we're [Earth] all over the place.

Assuming the Templars had 1800's accuracy in whenever with a manual sextant they could get within 0.2 arc minutes - or a square 400 yards by 400 yards. That's about the size of . . . Oak Island. That was the norm up through WWII with handheld sextants, by the way. Still a challenge with a best grade modern handheld sextant.

And further, why would it have anything to do with anything? Or, specifically, anything to do with Oak Island?

Please Read...The top left corner of the Freemason Map...It gives the precise Day, Month and Time when this will occur.

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[Robot]

Known...Is a vast "Vortex"...and only close in "Horse Shoes"!

Knowledge is the "key" word.
Tutankhamun was KNOWN to have existed, it was where he was entombed that wasn't known.
Troy was KNOWN to have existed, there were 9 Troy cities built upon the top of previous Troys.
It was which was Homer's Troy that was not known.
As for Oak Island...?
One needs more that a strawman hayride to the red herring fishfry to make these real person and historical location discoveries to compare with a what seems to be fabricated lore and legend of treasure.

Heinrich Schliemann... discovered "Troy" from a Fairy Tale Book... He Read and Believed In!

 

[Robot]

Yes.And One Of Those Directions..Points Directly At..The Freemason's Treasure Vault!'

good googly moogly, starlight shines down the same in every direction

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Please Read...The top left corner of the Freemason Map...It gives the precise Day, Month and Time when this will occur.

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Sooo . . . it was either recovered in 1762 or is lost to the ages?

Good. We can stop talking about it now.

 

[Robot]

Gee Charlie!...I am a little disappointed...That your dates are still wrong!

Sooo . . . it was either recovered in 1762 or is lost to the ages?

Good. We can stop talking about it now.

Recovered around 1783 after the British retreated from America.

Still...A vital source of revenue...For...The Freemasons!

Sir Francis Bacon's Tomb on Oak Island...That is another Matter!

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

How did they find it if the "clues" were based on the stars of 1762? Why didn't the Freemasons grab it in 1762 when they had calibrated the [nonsensical and irrelevant] star chart you posted? Answer: because it is all rubbish.

You're just tossing out nonsense at this point. But you're fun. Like a hamster in a ball.

 

[Robot]

How did they find it if the "clues" were based on the stars of 1762? Why didn't the Freemasons grab it in 1762 when they had calibrated the [nonsensical] star chert you posted? Answer: because it is all rubbish.

You're just tossing out nonsense at this point. But you're fun. Like a hamster in a ball.

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[Charlie P. (NY)]

How about you produce results, instead? Your posts are gibberish. Lets see the evidence they are worth the bytes of storage they occupy.

Where is ANY evidence they bring us any closer to an answer? Any? Any at all? Even a little bit? A crumb?

 

[bigscoop]

When folks desire to believe in something, regardless all the contrary facts, they will manufacture all means of desperate evidences in order to cling to that belief. Nowhere does this happen with more frequency then with treasure legends, which is why they survive as legends.

 

[Robot]

Oh Charlie...Gibberish...That is one language...I do not speak!

How about you produce results, instead? Your posts are gibberish.

I thought we were having a conversation in English...Now you go and change it to Gibberish!

I just can't Understand You...Charlie!

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

I thought we were having a conversation in English...Now you go and change it to Gibberish!

I just can't Understand You...Charlie!


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Here we go again....when pressed for evidence to back his outlandish treasure find statements, he reverts back to nonsensical posts with no substance...

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Gibberish.

 

[ECS]

Heinrich Schliemann... discovered "Troy" from a Fairy Tale Book... He Read and Believed In!

Illium/ Troy existence was know and written about long after Homers THE ILLIAD and was mentioned by Alexander the Great-
only the KNOWN location of Troy was "lost".
The fairy tale is that Schliemann "found" Troy based on the THE ILLIAD -in fact he destroyed many of the "layered" TROYs in his quest for Homer's Troy.

 

[Robot]

The Illiad...Was a Greek Epic Poem...Which makes the stories of OI sound like Gospel!

Illium/ Troy existence was know and written about long after Homers THE ILLIAD and was mentioned by Alexander the Great-
only the KNOWN location of Troy was "lost".
The fairy tale is that Schliemann "found" Troy based on the THE ILLIAD -in fact he destroyed many of the "layered" TROYs in his quest for Homer's Troy.

Yes, Robert Dunfield can be compared to Schliemann with the use of Dynamite to get his results.

Schliemann did use this Greek Epic Poem, filled with gods and myths to locate his treasure.




"Hera seduces Zeus and lures him to sleep, allowing Poseidon to help the Greeks, and the Trojans are driven back onto the plain.
Zeus awakes and is enraged by Poseidon's intervention. Against the mounting discontent of the Greek-supporting gods, Zeus sends Apollo to aid the Trojans, who once again breach the wall, and the battle reaches the ships."

Maybe the Stories of Oak Island are Not so "Far Fetched" when compared to this?

 

[ECS]

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Maybe the Stories of Oak Island are Not so "Far Fetched" when compared to this?

Comparing apples and oranges is always the last option employed when imagination takes the place of hard evidence.

 

[Robot]

Do…Try This…At Home!

For those who are Still Confused as to how the Freemasons obtained Terrestrial Markers from Celestial Markers for the location of their Treasure Vault.

Such as "One Poster's Comment"!
“OK - but how do you get your team the 550 light years distance to star Gamma Cassiopeia to start digging?”

Let me try to explain with this simple experiment.

The Freemasons needed to transform the Celestial Stars shining over Oak Island at a set date and time and change them into earthly Terrestrial Markers to form a Map.

You can try this simple experiment at home or outside on a clear night with stars visible.




Pick a Stationary Point.

The Freemasons chose what I refer to as the Polaris Stone…In The Curse of Oak Island Season 3 Episode 11 following Laverne Johnson’s clues, an 8 inch drilled Very Large Stone was located 171 feet due north from where he had estimated the Stone Triangle was located.
From there they were able to Map Out the entire island.

Pick a Stationary Light Bulb…and turn it on!

The Freemasons used the Stars from the Constellations overhead at a set Date and Time… at Midnight, Fall Equinox, 1762 ad.

Run an Imaginary Plum Line from your Stationary Point to a Set Point past under the Lighted Bulb.

The Freemasons ran surveyed lines from the Polaris Stone out from the Polaris Stone in line with each Star to their Set Point on the island.

Hold a Mirror at a 45 degree angle to your body and Walk towards your Set Point.

The Freemasons used what was called a Mercury Trough placed at the Polaris Stone which showed the Bering for each Star's Terrestrial Location.



When the Light Bulb appears in the center of your Mirror, drop a marker…You have created a Terrestrial Marker…If you are fortunate to have your Light Bulbs set up as the Constellation Cassiopeia…You have recreated the Freemasons location for their Treasure Vault.


The Freemasons marked their Terrestrial Markers with Drilled Granite Stones, some still located in their original positions on the Island…Awaiting Cross Triangulation to Reveal Their Map.



Their Terrestrial Map can be recreated...For Eternity...As Can Yours!

 

[franklin]

Does this calculation take in to account for the movement of the Stars up and down over the past 255 years from 1762 to 2017? The Stars in those 255 years have moved 251.56 miles in Latitude and 219.52 miles in Longitude or about 3.643 degrees. Has this been taken in to account?

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

For those who are Still Confused as to how the Freemasons obtained Terrestrial Markers from Celestial Markers for the location of their Treasure Vault.

Such as "One Poster's Comment"!
“OK - but how do you get your team the 550 light years distance to star Gamma Cassiopeia to start digging?”

Let me try to explain with this simple experiment.

The Freemasons needed to transform the Celestial Stars shining over Oak Island at a set date and time and change them into earthly Terrestrial Markers to form a Map.

You can try this simple experiment at home or outside on a clear night with stars visible.


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Pick a Stationary Point.

The Freemasons chose what I refer to as the Polaris Stone…In The Curse of Oak Island Season 3 Episode 11 following Laverne Johnson’s clues, an 8 inch drilled Very Large Stone was located 171 feet due north from where he had estimated the Stone Triangle was located.
From there they were able to Map Out the entire island.

Pick a Stationary Light Bulb…and turn it on!

The Freemasons used the Stars from the Constellations overhead at a set Date and Time… at Midnight, Fall Equinox, 1762 ad.

Run an Imaginary Plum Line from your Stationary Point to a Set Point past under the Lighted Bulb.

The Freemasons ran surveyed lines from the Polaris Stone out from the Polaris Stone in line with each Star to their Set Point on the island.

Hold a Mirror at a 45 degree angle to your body and Walk towards your Set Point.

The Freemasons used what was called a Mercury Trough placed at the Polaris Stone which showed the Bering for each Star's Terrestrial Location.

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When the Light Bulb appears in the center of your Mirror, drop a marker…You have created a Terrestrial Marker…If you are fortunate to have your Light Bulbs set up as the Constellation Cassiopeia…You have recreated the Freemasons location for their Treasure Vault.


The Freemasons marked their Terrestrial Markers with Drilled Granite Stones, some still located in their original positions on the Island…Awaiting Cross Triangulation to Reveal Their Map.

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Their Terrestrial Map can be recreated...For Eternity...As Can Yours!

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Most anybody understands this.....but not everyone understands the need to perpetuate fictional story tales about something that never existed....

 

[Robot]

Does this calculation take in to account for the movement of the Stars up and down over the past 255 years from 1762 to 2017? The Stars in those 255 years have moved 251.56 miles in Latitude and 219.52 miles in Longitude or about 3.643 degrees. Has this been taken in to account?

The Freemasons never intended to leave their treasure for any great length of time.

They returned for it around 1783 after the British retreat from America.

Today:
"A star's direction remains nearly fixed due to its vast distance, but its right ascension and declination do change gradually due to precession of the equinoxes and proper motion, and cyclically due to annual parallax."

As you inferred...Today we would need to take this into account to obtain the true Freemason's 1762 location of their Treasure Vault.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

The Freemasons never intended to leave their treasure for any great length of time.

They returned for it around 1783 after the British retreat from America.

Today:
"A star's direction remains nearly fixed due to its vast distance, but its right ascension and declination do change gradually due to precession of the equinoxes and proper motion, and cyclically due to annual parallax."

As you inferred...Today we would need to take this into account to obtain the true Freemason's 1762 location of their Treasure Vault.

No evidence has ever been presented that a treasure ever existed on oak island.....now you are stating that the british returned and retrieved a treasure. Please post the evidence for:

a) Which treasure was involved...
b) The proof that the british did retrieve it...

Otherwise, it's just another fictional story....