Here's a link to a Templar find in a farmers field in England for those who may be interested.
Rabbit hole leads to 'Knights Templar' cave - BBC News
Rabbit hole leads to 'Knights Templar' cave - BBC News
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Why would Bell refer to his eldest son as his servant?
This is not as unusual as you think. My great grandparents had 3 children but at a young age my great grandfather died and his wife remarried. Back then that was a necessity. While I was researching my grandmother I noticed on a census that my grandmother and her sister aged 14 and 10 were listed as household servants and on top of that were listed at the bottom of the children from the new union. Their brother aged 12 was not listed so I imagine he was sent packing. He probably took work in the coal mines at that early age. My grandfather started work at 12 in the mines and my father at 14. Its hard to imagine but it was a way of life back then and sometimes life was very cruel for the poor.
This is not as unusual as you think. My great grandparents had 3 children but at a young age my great grandfather died and his wife remarried. Back then that was a necessity. While I was researching my grandmother I noticed on a census that my grandmother and her sister aged 14 and 10 were listed as household servants and on top of that were listed at the bottom of the children from the new union. Their brother aged 12 was not listed so I imagine he was sent packing. He probably took work in the coal mines at that early age. My grandfather started work at 12 in the mines and my father at 14. Its hard to imagine but it was a way of life back then and sometimes life was very cruel for the poor.
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WOW.....that is truly a majestic vault beneath the earth.....
I cannot wait to see what lies inside this vault in Vermont.
Its obviously from a later time, but they were devout followers and keepers of the Templar Order. The Order of the Helm of Bacon and King James I, the French order of the Rosicrucian and Henry IV, and the Knights of Christ under Felipe IV.
Now something this "Strange" "Bizzare" and "Maybe Truth"
Maybe something like this?
I think its Nose Flute Time......
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"Prince Henry, what are we going to do with all this coconut coir"?
"Ship it all to Oak Island and it will be someone else's problem"!
"Ship it all to Oak Island and it will be someone else's problem"!
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It’s…”Hard to Turn a Blind Eye”…To La Buse’s connections to “Oak Island”!
Olivier Levasseur’s life as a pirate started out quite unfortunately when he was hit in one eye from a probable blast, shot at his Boarding Party by a Blunderbuss or Swivel Gun.
Later, The Buzzard’s fortune would increase immensely from his luck at raiding and plundering helpless ships.
Some of his connections to Oak Island appear to be beyond coincidental.
At an early life in France, Levasseur was trained in the ways of his wealthy family, studying Freemasonry, the Courts, and several languages, including being a scholar in Greek and Latin.
After his education, he became a young officer in the Navy and participated in Queen Anne’s War (1702—1713).
This may have led him to Acadia.
During time spent in Acadia, Levasseur could have helped build Fort Dauphin 1713, Cape Briton Isle, possibly under the Governor Jean-Baptiste Hertel de Rouville (26 October 1668 — 30 June 1722).
It was stated that Levasseur refused to return his ship to France after the war and proceeded to become a Privateer and then a Pirate.
La Buse may have used the familiar Oak Island as a base for his noted plundering of English, Portuguese. and then French ships, along the coast of Nova Scotia.
It has been documented that La Buse joined the famous pirates Benjamin Hornigold and Edward Teach (Blackbeard) in the Caribbean when he found the plundering of New England Fishing Ships and local Merchant Ships unprofitable.
While in the Caribbean he would have been aware of the escapades of Jean Levasseur his deceased countryman, who was a Civil Engineer, Governor of Tortuga, and referred to as Pirate King of Tortuga.
It questions whether Olivier and Jean Levasseur were related and if Olivier had possibly heard tales at home of Jean’s episodes on Tortuga, up until Jean’s death in 1654.
Jean being an Engineer and with the help of Huguenot companions who fled France from Catholic persecution in mid-17[SUP]th[/SUP] Century, along with island slaves, may have built what was called a Pirate’s Bank in Tortuga.
This Pirate’s Bank along with one rumored to be in Haiti, showed similar designs to the Oak Island Money Pit and Flood Tunnels.
Probably La Buse knew of these designs and could have used them with his constructions for Oak Island.
From the Caribbean it was recorded in 1720’s that La Buse moved with the slave trade to West Africa.
Ferrying slaves was sometimes used as a front by Pirates in order to legitimately cruise the oceans while looking for Prey.
"It was during one of La Buse’s sailings that he perpetrated one of piracy's greatest exploits: the capture of the Portuguese great galleon Nossa Senhora do Cabo (Our Lady of the Cape) or Virgem Do Cabo (The Virgin of the Cape), loaded full of treasures belonging to the Bishop of Goa, also called the Patriarch of the East Indies, and the Viceroy of Portugal, who were both on board returning home to Lisbon. The pirates were able to board the vessel without firing a single broadside because the Cabo had been damaged in a storm and to avoid capsizing the crew had dumped all of its 72 cannon overboard, anchored off Réunion island to undergo repairs."
It was after securing this fortune that Levasseur likely decided it was time to transfer his plunder closer to France while attempting to arrange or buy a French Pardon.
To protect himself from French prosecution he moved to Madagascar, to the town of Fort Dauphin (the only other town of this name outside of Canada).
Fort Dauphin was under the protection of the King of Madagascar, King Andriantsimitoviaminiandriana.
It was here in Madagascar that Olivier Levasseur derived his plans for “Oak Island”.
The problem… The Best Laid Plans of Mice, Men and Pirates…Often Go Awry!
"In 1724, Levasseur sent a negotiator to the governor on the island of Bourbon (today Réunion), to discuss an amnesty that had been offered to all pirates in the Indian Ocean who would give up their practice. However, the French government wanted a large part of the stolen loot back, so Levasseur decided to await further negotiations. While under the King of Madagascar’s protection he was tricked into boarding a ship and arrested and then taken to the French domain of Saint-Denis, Réunion and hanged for piracy at 5 p.m. on 7 July 1730."
Olivier Levasseur’s life as a pirate started out quite unfortunately when he was hit in one eye from a probable blast, shot at his Boarding Party by a Blunderbuss or Swivel Gun.
Later, The Buzzard’s fortune would increase immensely from his luck at raiding and plundering helpless ships.
Some of his connections to Oak Island appear to be beyond coincidental.
At an early life in France, Levasseur was trained in the ways of his wealthy family, studying Freemasonry, the Courts, and several languages, including being a scholar in Greek and Latin.
After his education, he became a young officer in the Navy and participated in Queen Anne’s War (1702—1713).
This may have led him to Acadia.
During time spent in Acadia, Levasseur could have helped build Fort Dauphin 1713, Cape Briton Isle, possibly under the Governor Jean-Baptiste Hertel de Rouville (26 October 1668 — 30 June 1722).
It was stated that Levasseur refused to return his ship to France after the war and proceeded to become a Privateer and then a Pirate.
La Buse may have used the familiar Oak Island as a base for his noted plundering of English, Portuguese. and then French ships, along the coast of Nova Scotia.
It has been documented that La Buse joined the famous pirates Benjamin Hornigold and Edward Teach (Blackbeard) in the Caribbean when he found the plundering of New England Fishing Ships and local Merchant Ships unprofitable.
While in the Caribbean he would have been aware of the escapades of Jean Levasseur his deceased countryman, who was a Civil Engineer, Governor of Tortuga, and referred to as Pirate King of Tortuga.
It questions whether Olivier and Jean Levasseur were related and if Olivier had possibly heard tales at home of Jean’s episodes on Tortuga, up until Jean’s death in 1654.
Jean being an Engineer and with the help of Huguenot companions who fled France from Catholic persecution in mid-17[SUP]th[/SUP] Century, along with island slaves, may have built what was called a Pirate’s Bank in Tortuga.
This Pirate’s Bank along with one rumored to be in Haiti, showed similar designs to the Oak Island Money Pit and Flood Tunnels.
Probably La Buse knew of these designs and could have used them with his constructions for Oak Island.
From the Caribbean it was recorded in 1720’s that La Buse moved with the slave trade to West Africa.
Ferrying slaves was sometimes used as a front by Pirates in order to legitimately cruise the oceans while looking for Prey.
"It was during one of La Buse’s sailings that he perpetrated one of piracy's greatest exploits: the capture of the Portuguese great galleon Nossa Senhora do Cabo (Our Lady of the Cape) or Virgem Do Cabo (The Virgin of the Cape), loaded full of treasures belonging to the Bishop of Goa, also called the Patriarch of the East Indies, and the Viceroy of Portugal, who were both on board returning home to Lisbon. The pirates were able to board the vessel without firing a single broadside because the Cabo had been damaged in a storm and to avoid capsizing the crew had dumped all of its 72 cannon overboard, anchored off Réunion island to undergo repairs."
It was after securing this fortune that Levasseur likely decided it was time to transfer his plunder closer to France while attempting to arrange or buy a French Pardon.
To protect himself from French prosecution he moved to Madagascar, to the town of Fort Dauphin (the only other town of this name outside of Canada).
Fort Dauphin was under the protection of the King of Madagascar, King Andriantsimitoviaminiandriana.
It was here in Madagascar that Olivier Levasseur derived his plans for “Oak Island”.
The problem… The Best Laid Plans of Mice, Men and Pirates…Often Go Awry!
"In 1724, Levasseur sent a negotiator to the governor on the island of Bourbon (today Réunion), to discuss an amnesty that had been offered to all pirates in the Indian Ocean who would give up their practice. However, the French government wanted a large part of the stolen loot back, so Levasseur decided to await further negotiations. While under the King of Madagascar’s protection he was tricked into boarding a ship and arrested and then taken to the French domain of Saint-Denis, Réunion and hanged for piracy at 5 p.m. on 7 July 1730."
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Madagascar…Was Greek…To La Buse!
In 1725, after having been refused amnesty by the French government in Reunion, La Buse patiently waited in Madagascar to once again try and obtain a Pardon.
While there Levasseur would have become familiar with the Madagascar culture and history.
He had made his Personal Cryptogram from Freemason Script explaining how to approach the Cavern, but he required another Cipher to explain the Mapping and the Engineering required to locate his treasure on Oak Island.
The Symbols and Directions recorded in his Journal probably originated from time spent on Madagascar.
Madagascar language is of the Austronesian languages and uses “Brahmi” as one of its ancient scripts.
The “Map” presented in Season 4 of the Curse of Oak Island shows similarity to…ancient Brahmi Script.
Forum Member..."Eldo"...pointed out what could show the author of the Oak Island Map revealed in Season 4 to be... LaVaseur
Oak Island:
Symbols found on Oak Island match those of Symbols found on Madagascar and Reunion.
Reunion:
While watching a show on Madagascar…Booze Traveller (yes, laugh!) at 26.36 minute, it shows the Court of Ambohimanga with similar symbols.
https://xmovies8.ru/movie/booze-traveler-season3-2016/watching.html?episode_id=72514
It would be interesting what these symbols around the Holy Circle may depict.
In 1725, after having been refused amnesty by the French government in Reunion, La Buse patiently waited in Madagascar to once again try and obtain a Pardon.
While there Levasseur would have become familiar with the Madagascar culture and history.
He had made his Personal Cryptogram from Freemason Script explaining how to approach the Cavern, but he required another Cipher to explain the Mapping and the Engineering required to locate his treasure on Oak Island.
The Symbols and Directions recorded in his Journal probably originated from time spent on Madagascar.
Madagascar language is of the Austronesian languages and uses “Brahmi” as one of its ancient scripts.
The “Map” presented in Season 4 of the Curse of Oak Island shows similarity to…ancient Brahmi Script.
Forum Member..."Eldo"...pointed out what could show the author of the Oak Island Map revealed in Season 4 to be... LaVaseur
Oak Island:
Symbols found on Oak Island match those of Symbols found on Madagascar and Reunion.
Reunion:
While watching a show on Madagascar…Booze Traveller (yes, laugh!) at 26.36 minute, it shows the Court of Ambohimanga with similar symbols.
https://xmovies8.ru/movie/booze-traveler-season3-2016/watching.html?episode_id=72514
It would be interesting what these symbols around the Holy Circle may depict.
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Code Breaker?
On the internet there have been many good presentations what the deciphering possibly translates to.
Translating Levasseur’s Ciphers from Symbols to Letters and Numbers into English and French is only the start to deciphering what was La Buse’s final intent and actual message.
His Freemason English Cryptogram Cruise-Wilkins translation:
"The treasure chamber is somewhere underground and must be approached carefully, to avoid being inundated. It is protected by the tides, which require damming to hold them back, and is to be approached from the north. Access is through a stairwell cut into the rocks, and tunnels leading under the beach."
His Internet French Map Cryptogram Translation:
HALTE NE TERRER PAS CREUSER A QUARANTE PIED AVEC A ANGLE QUARANTE CINQ DEGRE LA HAMPE A CINQ CENT VINGT DEUX PIED A VOUS ENTRE L'ECU ET REI D'OR A UN MILLE SOIXANTE CINQ PIED ATTEINTE LA CHAMBRE
Stop! Do not Unearth! Dig forty feet with an angle forty-five degrees, the shaft is five hundred and twenty-two feet between you and the gold l'ecu and rei (gold coins), and it is one thousand sixty-five feet to reach the chamber
It may be their translation of “REI D'OR” should be translated as “pied du roi” which translates as “King’s Feet”.
Levasseur’s Cipher was translated back into French, and in the year 1725, the unit of measure was the French foot or referred to in French… pied du roi… which stands for “King’s Feet”.
The French foot in 1725 would have been 315.6mm or 1.035 of a British foot measurement, and this would need to be taken into account.
“The mediaeval royal units of length were based on the toise and in particular the toise de l'…critoire, the distance between the fingertips of the outstretched arms of a man which was introduced in 790 AD by Charlemagne.The toise had 6 pieds (feet) each of 326.6 mm (12.86 in). In 1668 the reference standard was found to have been deformed and it was replaced by the toise du Châtelet which, to accommodate the deformation of the earlier standard, was 11 mm (0.55%) shorter. In 1747 this toise was replaced by a new toise of near-identical length.”
I believe the translation from French into English may be:
Stop!...Do not unearth (Past the Ninety Foot Stone)…Dig (Due North) forty feet (41.4 feet) at an (adjusted compass) angle 45 degrees (to connect with North Running Tunnel)
(Due North from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle) The shaft is five hundred and twenty-two feet (540.27 feet) between (from) you
In King’s Feet (pied du roi)
And it is (a total of… from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle… Due North) one thousand sixty-five feet (1102.27 feet) to reach the chamber
On the internet there have been many good presentations what the deciphering possibly translates to.
Translating Levasseur’s Ciphers from Symbols to Letters and Numbers into English and French is only the start to deciphering what was La Buse’s final intent and actual message.
His Freemason English Cryptogram Cruise-Wilkins translation:
"The treasure chamber is somewhere underground and must be approached carefully, to avoid being inundated. It is protected by the tides, which require damming to hold them back, and is to be approached from the north. Access is through a stairwell cut into the rocks, and tunnels leading under the beach."
His Internet French Map Cryptogram Translation:
HALTE NE TERRER PAS CREUSER A QUARANTE PIED AVEC A ANGLE QUARANTE CINQ DEGRE LA HAMPE A CINQ CENT VINGT DEUX PIED A VOUS ENTRE L'ECU ET REI D'OR A UN MILLE SOIXANTE CINQ PIED ATTEINTE LA CHAMBRE
Stop! Do not Unearth! Dig forty feet with an angle forty-five degrees, the shaft is five hundred and twenty-two feet between you and the gold l'ecu and rei (gold coins), and it is one thousand sixty-five feet to reach the chamber
It may be their translation of “REI D'OR” should be translated as “pied du roi” which translates as “King’s Feet”.
Levasseur’s Cipher was translated back into French, and in the year 1725, the unit of measure was the French foot or referred to in French… pied du roi… which stands for “King’s Feet”.
The French foot in 1725 would have been 315.6mm or 1.035 of a British foot measurement, and this would need to be taken into account.
“The mediaeval royal units of length were based on the toise and in particular the toise de l'…critoire, the distance between the fingertips of the outstretched arms of a man which was introduced in 790 AD by Charlemagne.The toise had 6 pieds (feet) each of 326.6 mm (12.86 in). In 1668 the reference standard was found to have been deformed and it was replaced by the toise du Châtelet which, to accommodate the deformation of the earlier standard, was 11 mm (0.55%) shorter. In 1747 this toise was replaced by a new toise of near-identical length.”
I believe the translation from French into English may be:
Stop!...Do not unearth (Past the Ninety Foot Stone)…Dig (Due North) forty feet (41.4 feet) at an (adjusted compass) angle 45 degrees (to connect with North Running Tunnel)
(Due North from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle) The shaft is five hundred and twenty-two feet (540.27 feet) between (from) you
In King’s Feet (pied du roi)
And it is (a total of… from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle… Due North) one thousand sixty-five feet (1102.27 feet) to reach the chamber
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Building La Buse’s…Treasure Island….Oak Island
Olivier Levasseur’s design and construction for his Treasure Island at Oak Island, Nova Scotia, was what some may say… “Beyond the Average Pirate”.
La Buse was no... "Ordinary Pirate".
He was more than capable with his training, experiences, knowledge of laborers, and available finances of creating what we imagine was necessary to construct Oak Island.
In 1726 La Buse may have known Oak Island better than most.
He possibly chose it for its desolation and its ease of access to the nearby Trade Winds routes.
My theory…Is Levasseur surveyed the island leaving several markers to triangulate where the Treasure Chamber, (2) Chamber Entrances, Money Pit Shaft, Chamber Tunnel, and Water Tunnel, were to be located.
Olivier Levasseur’s design and construction for his Treasure Island at Oak Island, Nova Scotia, was what some may say… “Beyond the Average Pirate”.
La Buse was no... "Ordinary Pirate".
He was more than capable with his training, experiences, knowledge of laborers, and available finances of creating what we imagine was necessary to construct Oak Island.
In 1726 La Buse may have known Oak Island better than most.
He possibly chose it for its desolation and its ease of access to the nearby Trade Winds routes.
My theory…Is Levasseur surveyed the island leaving several markers to triangulate where the Treasure Chamber, (2) Chamber Entrances, Money Pit Shaft, Chamber Tunnel, and Water Tunnel, were to be located.
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The Money Pit Shaft
The Money Pit Shaft was dug down to bedrock around 170 feet where a large cavern was dug.
At the Shaft’s entrance were buried slate flat stones to help prevent the softer dirt in the shaft from sinking and showing a depression on the surface.
Each 10 foot level was shored up with oak logs to prevent the weight of the fill from collapsing the Shaft.
At the 30 foot level La Buse placed 3 Treasure Chest for what may have been for him an easy quick withdraw, but also if someone did dig down they may accept these small chests as the actual treasure and stop further digging.
At the 90 foot level a large flat Decipher Stone was placed.
This stone served several functions.
One being a marker warning to La Buse or anyone he sent to retrieve his fortune.
It would indicate to heed a warning not to dig further.
It also would be to follow his Map’s instructions to find the entrance to the Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
In 1726 Levasseur knew that Oak Island was located in English territory, so he wrote the Decipher Stone to be translated into English.
If anyone unauthorized were to decipher it, they would continue on and flood the shaft, thus securing and closing off his back entrance to the Treasure Chamber.
Once the Shaft was flooded it would pose a great deterrent to any further exploration.
If he came back and saw the Shaft was flooded, he would retrieve his treasure through the more difficult Front Entrance.
The Money Pit Shaft was dug down to bedrock around 170 feet where a large cavern was dug.
At the Shaft’s entrance were buried slate flat stones to help prevent the softer dirt in the shaft from sinking and showing a depression on the surface.
Each 10 foot level was shored up with oak logs to prevent the weight of the fill from collapsing the Shaft.
At the 30 foot level La Buse placed 3 Treasure Chest for what may have been for him an easy quick withdraw, but also if someone did dig down they may accept these small chests as the actual treasure and stop further digging.
At the 90 foot level a large flat Decipher Stone was placed.
This stone served several functions.
One being a marker warning to La Buse or anyone he sent to retrieve his fortune.
It would indicate to heed a warning not to dig further.
It also would be to follow his Map’s instructions to find the entrance to the Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
In 1726 Levasseur knew that Oak Island was located in English territory, so he wrote the Decipher Stone to be translated into English.
If anyone unauthorized were to decipher it, they would continue on and flood the shaft, thus securing and closing off his back entrance to the Treasure Chamber.
Once the Shaft was flooded it would pose a great deterrent to any further exploration.
If he came back and saw the Shaft was flooded, he would retrieve his treasure through the more difficult Front Entrance.
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Flood Tunnels
At the 170 foot mark a Tunnel ran from the Money Shaft out into Smith’s Cove.
Unlike what many have previously presented, this Tunnel has only a slight grade up to around the 90 foot level and continues past the Coffer Dam.
Once past the Coffer Dam’s limits, this Tunnel was split into three Tunnels with each being brought to within 10 feet from the surface of the Ocean.
At the end of each Tunnel “Powder Charges” were placed within. Powder and Pirates go together like Bread and Butter.
The “Ice Holes” seen out in Smith’s Cove may be the openings to these Tunnels.
"To ignite the end of each tunnel, they fed an ignition "sausage" out of each tunnel. This sausage was a tube made of linen and filled with granulated black powder that led back to the point of ignition. The ignition sausage, a predecessor of the modern time fuse, was normally laid in a 6-centimeter-wide wooden duct and covered with a board to protect it from moisture or other damage. At the appointed time, the miner ignited the powder in the ignition sausage with an ignition sponge and then retreated quickly before the sponge burned to the powder."
Workers returned to the Money Pit, and lit the fuse.
The ends of all three Tunnels were detonated, exploding and opened up to the Ocean’s sea water.
The Workers in the Shaft quickly constructed a sealed air tight barrier at the 100 foot level, preventing the rushing sea water from filling it up.
Workers were allowed the necessary time as the Ocean’s sea water running down the tunnel would first start filling the bottom Cavern at the 170 foot level and then climb up the Shaft’s 70 foot distance.
They then sealed a further 10 feet between the 90 foot level and the sealed Air Lock with tar, clay, coir fibre, and dirt
At the 170 foot mark a Tunnel ran from the Money Shaft out into Smith’s Cove.
Unlike what many have previously presented, this Tunnel has only a slight grade up to around the 90 foot level and continues past the Coffer Dam.
Once past the Coffer Dam’s limits, this Tunnel was split into three Tunnels with each being brought to within 10 feet from the surface of the Ocean.
At the end of each Tunnel “Powder Charges” were placed within. Powder and Pirates go together like Bread and Butter.
The “Ice Holes” seen out in Smith’s Cove may be the openings to these Tunnels.
"To ignite the end of each tunnel, they fed an ignition "sausage" out of each tunnel. This sausage was a tube made of linen and filled with granulated black powder that led back to the point of ignition. The ignition sausage, a predecessor of the modern time fuse, was normally laid in a 6-centimeter-wide wooden duct and covered with a board to protect it from moisture or other damage. At the appointed time, the miner ignited the powder in the ignition sausage with an ignition sponge and then retreated quickly before the sponge burned to the powder."
Workers returned to the Money Pit, and lit the fuse.
The ends of all three Tunnels were detonated, exploding and opened up to the Ocean’s sea water.
The Workers in the Shaft quickly constructed a sealed air tight barrier at the 100 foot level, preventing the rushing sea water from filling it up.
Workers were allowed the necessary time as the Ocean’s sea water running down the tunnel would first start filling the bottom Cavern at the 170 foot level and then climb up the Shaft’s 70 foot distance.
They then sealed a further 10 feet between the 90 foot level and the sealed Air Lock with tar, clay, coir fibre, and dirt
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North Running Tunnel
This Tunnel was not connected to the Money Pit Shaft.
It required one to dig a 40 foot (41.4 foot) Tunnel within the Money Pit at the level where the Decipher Stone was located and out towards the North Running Tunnel at a Bering of 45 degrees.
This short Tunnel like an On-ramp connecting to a Freeway would have been La Buse’s preferred Entrance to connect with the North Running Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
This North Running Tunnel starts at the Stone Marker 1 and runs due north on a line sited from the WellingTriangle, through Stone 1, through the Polaris Stone, to the Apex formed from Nolan’s Cross.
It is 543 King’s Feet long (562 feet)
This Tunnel was not connected to the Money Pit Shaft.
It required one to dig a 40 foot (41.4 foot) Tunnel within the Money Pit at the level where the Decipher Stone was located and out towards the North Running Tunnel at a Bering of 45 degrees.
This short Tunnel like an On-ramp connecting to a Freeway would have been La Buse’s preferred Entrance to connect with the North Running Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
This North Running Tunnel starts at the Stone Marker 1 and runs due north on a line sited from the WellingTriangle, through Stone 1, through the Polaris Stone, to the Apex formed from Nolan’s Cross.
It is 543 King’s Feet long (562 feet)
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North Entrance (Secondary) Tunnel
Pirates never liked being cornered in a one entrance Bay.
Like Ground Squirrels they always had a Back Door.
The North Entrance Tunnel was La Buse’s Back Door.
Levasseur constructed a Coffer Dam at the North End of the Island to contain the water and enable him to build a sunken Entrance connected by a tunnel to the Treasure Chamber.
Cruise-Wilkins translation of the Freemason Cipher:
"The treasure chamber is somewhere underground and must be approached carefully, to avoid being inundated. It is protected by the tides, which require damming to hold them back, and is to be approached from the north. Access is through a stairwell cut into the rocks, and tunnels leading under the beach."
Pirates never liked being cornered in a one entrance Bay.
Like Ground Squirrels they always had a Back Door.
The North Entrance Tunnel was La Buse’s Back Door.
Levasseur constructed a Coffer Dam at the North End of the Island to contain the water and enable him to build a sunken Entrance connected by a tunnel to the Treasure Chamber.
Cruise-Wilkins translation of the Freemason Cipher:
"The treasure chamber is somewhere underground and must be approached carefully, to avoid being inundated. It is protected by the tides, which require damming to hold them back, and is to be approached from the north. Access is through a stairwell cut into the rocks, and tunnels leading under the beach."
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Treasure Chamber
Levasseur’s Treasure Chamber is located at the Apex of lines connected from Welling Triangle, Mallon Triangle and the Northern Rock Triangle.
All triangulate with Nolan’s Cross.
The Northern Line is 1065 King’s Feet (1102.27 feet) from the Welling Triangle.
Internet translation from the Map Cipher:
And it is (a total of… from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle… Due North) one thousand sixty-five feet (1102.27 feet) to reach the chamber.
Cruise-Wilkins stated...."Something weird stunned me: how come that in The Buzzard's cryptogram, we only find three pointy "A" when all the others are squared?"
It has been stated for the location of the island...Look for the three large piles of rocks that each form a Triangle
"Cruise-Wilkins compares and convinces himself that the "A" in the text are the same as on the rock. On the rock, the "A" forms a triangle. And Bibique as a trigonometry amateur is then convinced that we just need to trace a bisector in the right way to find the location of the treasure. Except that we first need to find the original location of the stone!"
Forum Member..."gjb"... stated that he believes there were 3 Triangles located at Oak Island, the Welling, Mallon triangle, along with the Northern Stone Triangle
From his book Oak Island: Jean Le Vasseur "gjb" outlines his connections with Oak Island.
Levasseur’s Treasure Chamber is located at the Apex of lines connected from Welling Triangle, Mallon Triangle and the Northern Rock Triangle.
All triangulate with Nolan’s Cross.
The Northern Line is 1065 King’s Feet (1102.27 feet) from the Welling Triangle.
Internet translation from the Map Cipher:
And it is (a total of… from the “Observer’s Starting Point”… the Welling Triangle… Due North) one thousand sixty-five feet (1102.27 feet) to reach the chamber.
Cruise-Wilkins stated...."Something weird stunned me: how come that in The Buzzard's cryptogram, we only find three pointy "A" when all the others are squared?"
It has been stated for the location of the island...Look for the three large piles of rocks that each form a Triangle
"Cruise-Wilkins compares and convinces himself that the "A" in the text are the same as on the rock. On the rock, the "A" forms a triangle. And Bibique as a trigonometry amateur is then convinced that we just need to trace a bisector in the right way to find the location of the treasure. Except that we first need to find the original location of the stone!"
Forum Member..."gjb"... stated that he believes there were 3 Triangles located at Oak Island, the Welling, Mallon triangle, along with the Northern Stone Triangle
From his book Oak Island: Jean Le Vasseur "gjb" outlines his connections with Oak Island.
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Coconut Coir Fibre
Levasseur having lived in Madagascar knew the benefits of coir fibre and used them accordingly.
I believe when it comes to Oak Island we have only looked at one of the uses of coir fibre.
La Buse saw another use for this unique fibre and used it for his construction.
What he was concerned with on the shores of Nova Scotia were its massive tide shifts.
He believed that with each tide shift sand would either erode his constructions or bury his constructions.
The construction of the rock formations found in “The Curse of Oak Island” with their attempt at trying to locate the tunnels at Smith’s Cove contributes more to what La Buse was trying to accomplish.
It may be La Buse's purpose for building a Coffer Dam at Smith’s Cove was to hold back the water while he reinforced the shore with rocks, eel grass, and coir fibre to stop the eroding of the sand and blocking his Tunnel’s inputs.
La Buse also built a Coffer Dam at the north end of the island to enable the building of his Northern Entrance and Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
Once this was accomplished he covered the area with rocks, eel grass, and coir fibre to prevent any erosion from divulging this Entry Way.
Levasseur having lived in Madagascar knew the benefits of coir fibre and used them accordingly.
I believe when it comes to Oak Island we have only looked at one of the uses of coir fibre.
La Buse saw another use for this unique fibre and used it for his construction.
What he was concerned with on the shores of Nova Scotia were its massive tide shifts.
He believed that with each tide shift sand would either erode his constructions or bury his constructions.
The construction of the rock formations found in “The Curse of Oak Island” with their attempt at trying to locate the tunnels at Smith’s Cove contributes more to what La Buse was trying to accomplish.
It may be La Buse's purpose for building a Coffer Dam at Smith’s Cove was to hold back the water while he reinforced the shore with rocks, eel grass, and coir fibre to stop the eroding of the sand and blocking his Tunnel’s inputs.
La Buse also built a Coffer Dam at the north end of the island to enable the building of his Northern Entrance and Tunnel leading to the Treasure Chamber.
Once this was accomplished he covered the area with rocks, eel grass, and coir fibre to prevent any erosion from divulging this Entry Way.
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Is Olivier Levasseur's Treasure...Still For the Finding?
All coordinates would need to be verified on the island!
But with Today’s Values
One Man’s Treasure…May Be Another Man’s Fortune!
Some say the Treasure of Olivier Levasseur…Aka..La Buse…Could be worth upwards of Several Billion Dollars!
Most agree La Buse’s appointment with the Hang Man prevented him from ever coming back for it!
All coordinates would need to be verified on the island!
But with Today’s Values
One Man’s Treasure…May Be Another Man’s Fortune!
Some say the Treasure of Olivier Levasseur…Aka..La Buse…Could be worth upwards of Several Billion Dollars!
Most agree La Buse’s appointment with the Hang Man prevented him from ever coming back for it!
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I think this will be the script for season 5 !
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Wow , this thread is like Mr Magoriums magical emporium of randomoids, some interesting snippets of various things I never knew.
However , as am inclined to think along the lines of "honest Samuel " post 361 , Dec 7th 2016 & say..... leave poor la Buse out of this"
But I'll hold that thought , even though what robot has posted concerning the Frenchman is riddled with errors.....
Am going to add something for you to help your theory / conspiracy / whichever.....
When are you suggesting he was there? You have a 10 month window , according to Colin Woodard author of "republic of pirates" & his discussions with Ken Kinkor , researcher for Samuel Bellamy "Wydah "
I will add in that short window he took 3 ships ... Ludlow 170 ton , Glasgow 140 ton , Belfast 150 ton ,in and around Newfoundland , the Frenchman return to West Indies in a new 250 ton ship
?
Pre 1716 ... you do know there was a levasseur in st Dominguez who commissioned privateers around same time as the Frenchman being known for being in the area & not up in Acadia right?
Also to play with is folklore of pirate hill in that area & Colin Woodard mentioning Machias river as a probable pirate haven? Not drastically far from your beloved oak island , no?
But
As you stated in post 291 , apr 28 2016 , "started by me" , I will leave to you , if you wish to chase it down.
Best of Luck
Bananas
However , as am inclined to think along the lines of "honest Samuel " post 361 , Dec 7th 2016 & say..... leave poor la Buse out of this"
But I'll hold that thought , even though what robot has posted concerning the Frenchman is riddled with errors.....
Am going to add something for you to help your theory / conspiracy / whichever.....
When are you suggesting he was there? You have a 10 month window , according to Colin Woodard author of "republic of pirates" & his discussions with Ken Kinkor , researcher for Samuel Bellamy "Wydah "
I will add in that short window he took 3 ships ... Ludlow 170 ton , Glasgow 140 ton , Belfast 150 ton ,in and around Newfoundland , the Frenchman return to West Indies in a new 250 ton ship
?Pre 1716 ... you do know there was a levasseur in st Dominguez who commissioned privateers around same time as the Frenchman being known for being in the area & not up in Acadia right?
Also to play with is folklore of pirate hill in that area & Colin Woodard mentioning Machias river as a probable pirate haven? Not drastically far from your beloved oak island , no?
But
As you stated in post 291 , apr 28 2016 , "started by me" , I will leave to you , if you wish to chase it down.
Best of Luck
Bananas
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