New treasure theory?

[Al D]

If Sir Henry Sinclair had not saved his father's life up in the Northern Atlantic what you state would be the truth. But believe as you will but one thing please do not make repetitions of the same statements over and over ten thousand times.

For sure, would not want to encroach upon your tried and true method

 

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[ECS]

If Sir Henry Sinclair had not saved his father's life up in the Northern Atlantic what you state would be the truth.
But believe as you will but one thing please do not make repetitions of the same statements over and over ten thousand times.

"It has been Earl Henry's singular fate to enjoy an ever expanding posthumous reputation which has very little to do with anything he achieved in his lifetime"- William Thompson, Historian, "The New History of Orkney"
"Henry Sinclair, an Earl of Orkney of the late fifteenth century, didn't go to America"- Brian Smith, Shetland archivist

Earl Henry Sinclair's fictitious trip to America, by Brian Smith

As for "do not make repetitions of the same statements over and over" is good advice that you should follow and lead by example before admonishing another.

 

[franklin]

"Henry Sinclair, an Earl of Orkney of the late fifteenth century, didn't go to America"- Brian Smith, Shetland archivist

Read that again. There were several Earl of Orkneys and there were several Henry Sinclairs. Also it says 15th Century. Sir Henry Sinclair that sailed to Nova Scotia in 1353, 1395 and 1398 was born around 1344 as he was 8 years old on his first voyage to Nova Scotia. Sir Henry Sinclair died around 1402 or 1404 after the Sacking of Newcastle of which there is a painting with him in full Knight Armor. Henry either died during the battle or wounds received in the battle. So yes your "archivist" would be right in his assumption only he has the wrong Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney. That would have been his grandson, son of William Sinclair the builder of Rosslyn Chapel.

Also Antonio Zeno was not Nicolo Zeno's brother it was his son.

 

[ECS]

Which brings us back to the established fact that the Zeno narrative with its tale of Prince Zichmni on which the entire myth of Sinclair's voyage to America is based, is a hoax, and there exists NO verifiable outside collaborating documentation that can prove that this fantasy voyage occurred.
*NOTE* A Scottish patriotic painting with several knights portrayed, including a Sinclair, has nothing to do with proving a voyage to Nova Scotia, but it does show the total lack of any Templar cross on his armour, which can be considered as additional evidence that Sinclair was NOT a Templar.

 

[franklin]

Which brings us back to the established fact that the Zeno narrative with its tale of Prince Zichmni on which the entire myth of Sinclair's voyage to America is based, is a hoax, and there exists NO verifiable outside collaborating documentation that can prove that this fantasy voyage occurred.
*NOTE* A Scottish patriotic painting with several knights portrayed, including a Sinclair, has nothing to do with proving a voyage to Nova Scotia, but it does show the total lack of any Templar cross on his armour, which can be considered as additional evidence that Sinclair was NOT a Templar.

All the Sinclairs were Templars. Hell they were the Grandmasters of the Templars. That is up until a Henry Sinclair that could not perform his duties. He could hardly do anything. Then it fell to his sister Katherine and she passed it down through the Wemyss Family. You can believe your history books all you want but the later end of the 21st Century this is going to be the history of America and how it became a powerful country.

 

[tinpan]

"Aberdeen" is in Scotland and is the home and source of the manuscript that is from. The Norse would have introduced domesticated sheep to Scotland in the 8th and 9th century (Shetland Isles notably). I guarantee sheep predated c.1740 in Scotland. The Soay breed descended from a feral sheep first domesticated around 3,000 to 4,000BC in and around Scotland, in fact.


But what it has to do with Oak Island in Nova Scotia I am at a loss to explain.

Hi The Aberdeen Bestiay was produced in England in 1200 . So how does only one image of a sheep taken from a manuscript which has many animals produced in England back your statement ? I should have put more detail in the pastural agricultural increase in 1740. TP

 

[Al D]

All the Sinclairs were Templars. Hell they were the Grandmasters of the Templars. That is up until a Henry Sinclair that could not perform his duties. He could hardly do anything. Then it fell to his sister Katherine and she passed it down through the Wemyss Family. You can believe your history books all you want but the later end of the 21st Century this is going to be the history of America and how it became a powerful country.

Henry Sinclair’s sister was a Knight Templar?
that is the most absurd thing you have ever posted

 

[ECS]

All the Sinclairs were Templars. Hell they were the Grandmasters of the Templars...

If the Sinclairs were all Templars(POST#245) why did St Clair of Rosslyn testify against the Templars at their 1309 trial in Edinburgh?
Concerning Sinclair sister Katherine as a Templar Grandmaster (POST#245) there were NO women Templars. NONE.
It appears that you have confused the Freemason Grand Lodge of Scotland, which William St Clair of Rosslyn was Grandmaster in 1736-1737 as Templar due to Andrew Michael Ramsey's 1730 oration, "Every Mason is a Knight Templar".
Once again you have made a grand statement as fact without providing even a minimal piece of proof of it being true.
Which brings us back to your statement that you know that Diana Jean Muir's "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR" are real (POST#218) and that the inked lambskin map was drawn by Antonio Zeno, that you stated was a Knight Templar (POST#235), which he was not.
Have you personally held these items in your hand for examination and have the training and education expertise to make that assessment on the journals and the lambskin map?

 

[tinpan]

Hi Again the 72 causes of the Knight Templars did not change. The idea of hereditary birth rite ?

So which Island did the Knights Templars hide the treasure for The Temperance Society ? Tp

 

[franklin]

Henry Sinclair’s sister was a Knight Templar?
that is the most absurd thing you have ever posted

I did not say his sister was Knight's Templar that is what you thought. To protect the Knight's Templar's Treasure that was kept for over 400 years Katherine was entrusted with the secrets of the Journals to pass them on. There was a dispute between the Sinclair and the Wemyss Family. It was offered back into the Sinclair Family but they would not except and so it was passed down to the Wemyss Family line. After the early 1700's the Wemyss Family became the Weems Family. Most of the known treasures were recovered just before the American Revolution so John Weems Jr. did not pass the journals onto his son George so the protection stopped in 1814 with John Weems Jr.'s death. John knew Greek, Latin and other languages but he did not know old English. The Journals of Sir Henry Sinclair was written in Latin.

The other half of the Knight's Templar's Treasures were brought over in the mid 17th Century have not been recovered. That was when the Holy Relics and the Ark of the Covenant of God were brought over to North America. Also other treasures older than 1398 may not have been recovered. I have the location of four of the mid 1700's treasures. I also have six other treasures in Mahone Bay that may not have been recovered as their latitudes are not recorded as being recovered.

 

[franklin]

If the Sinclairs were all Templars(POST#245) why did St Clair of Rosslyn testify against the Templars at their 1309 trial in Edinburgh?
Concerning Sinclair sister Katherine as a Templar Grandmaster (POST#245) there were NO women Templars. NONE.
It appears that you have confused the Freemason Grand Lodge of Scotland, which William St Clair of Rosslyn was Grandmaster in 1736-1737 as Templar due to Andrew Michael Ramsey's 1730 oration, "Every Mason is a Knight Templar".
Once again you have made a grand statement as fact without providing even a minimal piece of proof of it being true.
Which brings us back to your statement that you know that Diana Jean Muir's "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR" are real (POST#218) and that the inked lambskin map was drawn by Antonio Zeno, that you stated was a Knight Templar (POST#235), which he was not.
Have you personally held these items in your hand for examination and have the training and education expertise to make that assessment on the journals and the lambskin map?

I know several soldiers in the Civil War faced Court Martial in late 1864 yet they were entrusted with huge treasures of the CSA to guard protect and to distribute. Things are not always what they look like on the surface. As for the maps and three pages from the journals, they have been carbon dated and tested and it is in her books yet to come out. I received my Volume 2 today. That information will be in Volume 3, I am told. Diana has the ships log of all the Knight's Templar and crew that came over in 1395 and 1398. The country they were from, the ones that were killed, the ones that stayed over here and did not go back home. But if you do not read the books and you are waiting on your so called "academics" to look at the books and judge them, you will die of old age first. You need to judge for yourself.

By the way I have made discoveries on the maps of treasures and I have passed them along to Diana. The mistakes were not on her part but with the journals as written. She is not changing their words but writing them exactly as they were. John Weymss who we call John Weems Sr and his son's recovery of the treasures are all written in plain in English and in plain handwriting. Sir Henry Sinclairs as I said is wrote in Latin.

 

[ECS]

Why would anyone carbon date what have been determined by Scott Wolter who actually saw these items and held them in his hand, to be copies, not original 14th century journals.
"If authentic, the history these documents contain is explosive and sheds important new light on many aspects of history"-Scott Wolter
Notice that Wolter stated, "IF AUTHENTIC"
The other person to personally examine these items was Terry Tilton, past Grandmaster of Masons on Minnesota and self proclaimed Masonic scholar, NOT Templar scholar.
You are probably right about that I "will die of old age first" because of Muir's reluctance to have these journals and map examine by real professional historians and institutions like the Smithsonian which would prove "IF AUTHENTIC" (an authentic copy?) or NOT, the not putting an end to Muir's self publishing serialized unverified journals.
You still have not provided an answer as to how you know these journals and lambskin map are real.

*NOTE* Muir's alleged copies of "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR" are wrotten in a mixture of Latin, Middle English (like THE CANTERBURY TALES), surprisingly, Modern English.

 

[franklin]

Why would anyone carbon date what have been determined by Scott Wolter who actually saw these items and held them in his hand, to be copies, not original 14th century journals.
"If authentic, the history these documents contain is explosive and sheds important new light on many aspects of history"-Scott Wolter
Notice that Wolter stated, "IF AUTHENTIC"
The other person to personally examine these items was Terry Tilton, past Grandmaster of Masons on Minnesota and self proclaimed Masonic scholar, NOT Templar scholar.
You are probably right about that I "will die of old age first" because of Muir's reluctance to have these journals and map examine by real professional historians and institutions like the Smithsonian which would prove "IF AUTHENTIC" (an authentic copy?) or NOT, the not putting an end to Muir's self publishing serialized unverified journals.
You still have not provided an answer as to how you know these journals and lambskin map are real.

*NOTE* Muir's alleged copies of "THE LOST TEMPLAR JOURNALS OF PRINCE HENRY SINCLAIR" are wrotten in a mixture of Latin, Middle English (like THE CANTERBURY TALES), surprisingly, Modern English.

They are going to be proven authentic. It takes time. Locations in the Journals where they left carvings on stones, where they left objects to be found, where they buried their treasures. All these things are being checked on the ground in various ways. They left 8 markers to where the Holy Relics are hidden, 3 of the 8 markers have been found and something was found at one marker but I was not told what was found. Even today these locations are being checked out all over Canada, Nova Scotia, our Western States and our Eastern States. This is an on going work in progress. I can contribute little as to what others are doing but believe you me it is being done. Already enough has been found to convince me. As I have stated before I have located 14 of these treasures by Infrared Photography. All of these has to be checked out and some are only not so the public will know. Give everybody time to prove something that needs changed after over 500 years. It is going to take time. Then it is going to take more time for all to sink in to "academics" that have their minds chiseled in stone. My mind stays free as free as the wind. I find what I like, what I believe to be true and I pursue it with a vengeance.

 

[sailaway]

franklin stated in post # 250 the Ark of the Covenant was brought over to Nova Scotia in 17th century.

then Ron Wyatt is wrong?
Ark of the Covenant, Ron Wyatt
https://www.arkdiscovery.com/aoc-1.htm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/archa...iblical-site-where-ark-of-the-covenant-stood/
https://www.livescience.com/64932-the-ark-of-the-covenant.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/keepers-of-the-lost-ark-179998820/

franklin unless you can prove this recent discovery wrong, then your facts are proven to be untrue about your statements concerning the Templar Treasures stored in Nova Scotia.

 

[sailaway]

franklin stated in post #253 "something was found at one marker but I was not told what was found."

according to the Canadian law on Oak Island then:

8 When any person, whether or not the holder of a licence issued under this Act, discovers or recovers any treasure on Oak Island, that person shall immediately make a report in writing, verified upon oath, to the Minister setting out full particulars of
(a) the treasure discovered or recovered;
(b) the location of the discovery; and
(c) the place at which the treasure may be inspected by the Minister or by some person on the Minister's behalf.
https://nslegislature.ca/legc/bills/61st_2nd/3rd_read/b081.htm

this means there are no secrets kept about the efforts there. If you are aware of recovered artifacts that are unreported, then I personally know the commanding officer that will arrest them.

The Treasure Trove Act will be radically changed by the end of the year, making all historic artifacts government property.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/treasure-hunters-will-skirt-new-law-1.881529

the permit is free?
https://novascotia.ca/sns/paal/dnr/paal148.asp
guess we should all go get a air drill rig and start blowing holes till there is no island left.

 

[ECS]

"THINGS ARE NOT ALWAY WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE"

... Things are not always what they look like on the surface.
As for the maps and three pages from the journals, they have been carbon dated and tested and it is in her books yet to come out.
I received my Volume 2 today. That information will be in Volume 3, I am told.
Diana has the ships log of all the Knight's Templar and crew that came over in 1395 and 1398. The country they were from, the ones that were killed, the ones that stayed over here and did not go back home...
By the way I have made discoveries on the maps of treasures and I have passed them along to Diana...

"I threw them (journals and lambskin map) away because, at the time, I was convinced they were a hoax.., but I still had the transcription, 30-40 pages of photocopied material...It took me almost a year to admit to Scott and HP that I had thrown them away."- Diana Jean Muir
"While I am immensely frustrated with her decision to throw the original journals away...along with the lambskin map"- Scott Wolter
What was carbon tested , Franklin, 30-40 photocopied pages, since the alleged "originals" were conveniently thrown away along with the lambskin map by Diana Jean Muir to avoid examination by professionals?

"As a professional genealogist for the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints (Mormons), my reputation as a genealogist is beyond reproach. Scott's (Wolter) genealogy is very unique in that it 'does' lead to different lines such as the Capetian King, Norway Sea-Kings, Irish Sea-Kings, etc.
But any historian worth their salt knows they are all related somehow"- Diana Jean Muir 11/1/2018
Any historian worth their salt would know Henry Sinclair was never a Prince, nor was referred to as a Prince, as making that claim would be detrimental to his health.

"Assuming the journals are real, bring several new details and clarity to the Zeno narrative"- Scott Wolter 11/1/2018
New details and clarity to the Zeno narrative that mentions Prince Zichmni, not Henry Sinclair, that has been proven many times over as a hoax, or at best a complete work of fiction.

"The providence is there, it came down Prince Henry's descendants of which I am one"- Diana Jen Muir
Fiction derived from fiction is still, FICTION.

 

[franklin]

according to the Canadian law on Oak Island then:

this means there are no secrets kept about the efforts there. If you are aware of recovered artifacts that are unreported, then I personally know the commanding officer that will arrest them.

the permit is free?
https://novascotia.ca/sns/paal/dnr/paal148.asp
guess we should all go get a air drill rig and start blowing holes till there is no island left.

I do not know where the markers are but they definitely are not on Oak Island nor in Nova Scotia and not in Canada. I hope that makes it clear to you.

 

[franklin]

"I threw them (journals and lambskin map) away because, at the time, I was convinced they were a hoax.., but I still had the transcription, 30-40 pages of photocopied material...It took me almost a year to admit to Scott and HP that I had thrown them away."- Diana Jean Muir
"While I am immensely frustrated with her decision to throw the original journals away...along with the lambskin map"- Scott Wolter
What was carbon tested , Franklin, 30-40 photocopied pages, since the alleged "originals" were conveniently thrown away along with the lambskin map by Diana Jean Muir to avoid examination by professionals?

"As a professional genealogist for the Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints (Mormons), my reputation as a genealogist is beyond reproach. Scott's (Wolter) genealogy is very unique in that it 'does' lead to different lines such as the Capetian King, Norway Sea-Kings, Irish Sea-Kings, etc.
But any historian worth their salt knows they are all related somehow"- Diana Jean Muir 11/1/2018
Any historian worth their salt would know Henry Sinclair was never a Prince, nor was referred to as a Prince, as making that claim would be detrimental to his health.

"Assuming the journals are real, bring several new details and clarity to the Zeno narrative"- Scott Wolter 11/1/2018
New details and clarity to the Zeno narrative that mentions Prince Zichmni, not Henry Sinclair, that has been proven many times over as a hoax, or at best a complete work of fiction.

"The providence is there, it came down Prince Henry's descendants of which I am one"- Diana Jen Muir
Fiction derived from fiction is still, FICTION.

I will not try to explain your scrambled trouble of trying to figure anything out? I will just leave you in the confused state that you are in. Hopefully you will stay confused.

 

[franklin]

then Ron Wyatt is wrong?
Ark of the Covenant, Ron Wyatt
https://www.arkdiscovery.com/aoc-1.htm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/archa...iblical-site-where-ark-of-the-covenant-stood/
https://www.livescience.com/64932-the-ark-of-the-covenant.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/keepers-of-the-lost-ark-179998820/

franklin unless you can prove this recent discovery wrong, then your facts are proven to be untrue about your statements concerning the Templar Treasures stored in Nova Scotia.

Yes Ron Wyatt was a crack pot.

 

[ECS]

I will not try to explain your scrambled trouble of trying to figure anything out?
I will just leave you in the confused state that you are in. Hopefully you will stay confused.

"As for the maps and three pages from the journals, they have been carbon dated and tested"- Franklin (POST 251)
Diana Jean Muir admitted throwing away the original journals and the one ink drawn lambskin map, and that was confirmed by Scott Wolter, so what was "carbon dated and tested", since Muir clearly stated that she had only 30-40 photocopied pages of which she is generating into how many more Sinclair journals?
Is Muir still charging $40 for these self published alleged translations from those 30-40 photocopied pages?
It is not I that is confused or having scrambled trouble figuring things out that which is blatantly obvious.