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[somehiker]

Managed to find it online and so got to see EP.1....really enjoyed it. Wayne and Frank weren't acting either....that's the way they really are....like kids in a candy store !!
I can hardly wait to see the South Park version.

 

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[Eldo]

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This is the closest I could spraypaint the rock to look like it actually had an X on it (actual golden X added by film crew FYI)

 

[somehiker]

I must have been there just after ya left it cause it was fairly new. Ileft it where it sat. That guano does make some good fertilizer though.
As for being off limits, i didnt see any signs.its part of tonto and i pay my taxes so i dont see what they would have a problem with. Maybe off limits as far as climbing that ladder? If it was screwed together instead of nailed i might have went up and checked it out. But more than likely not.

It's not that tough a climb. Bit rickety, but the bottom rung is about 15 ft. above the ground.
The FS will probably go in and tear the rest of it down now, since it's a feature on the show.
That's not the kind of thing I like to see happen. Like they did with Mattie Blaylock's grave marker/memorial out near Superior a few years ago.
At least I got some photos before it was gone.

Regards:SH.

 

[Eldo]

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Can you see the Heart? I can't cause it isnt there unless you imagine hard.

Completely unconvincing evidence to have put on tv

 

[somehiker]

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This is the closest I could spraypaint the rock to look like it actually had an X on it (actual golden X added by film crew FYI)

Man made or natural doesn't really matter Eldo.
It's noticeable and recognizable enough to make an excellent marker, and something guaranteed to last for centuries at least.
What better a feature could someone choose to use on a treasure map ?

 

[chlsbrns]

The heart rock looks recently planted. The show was fun to watch but is obviously scripted. That is of course unless this one hunt out of thousands over the past hundred + years just got lucky while being followed by a camera crew. I liked it so I'll keep watching.

 

[jeff of pa]

the Rock is original The painted X is not

 

[somehiker]

the Rock is original The painted X is not

The white X was added to the shot to help the viewers make out the x which is really there, but hard to make out in the scene.
Maybe Frank can re-post the closeup photo of the heart rock so that all can see that it is not a prop, as Chelsey has suggested.
Some things probably will be props, but not this rock. And no-one said it would be a "reality series", so of course much of it would have been scripted....'cept maybe Frank's French.

Regards:SH.

 

[jeff of pa]

The white X was added to the shot to help the viewers make out the x which is really there, but hard to make out in the scene.
Maybe Frank can re-post the closeup photo of the heart rock so that all can see that it is not a prop, as Chelsey has suggested.

I could see from the one pic above.

did they use water paint ? Not that I care but I would think Forestry, or Whoever is in Charge
would be having conniptions

 

[IMPDLN]

Howdy signal,

Makes you wonder why they are called the "Salt" Mountains. I hear that the Salt River is not salty.

I believe that paper map was made by someone using the PSM's, and trying to put the trail on one paper to use it in the mountains. I believe that's why the arrow points into the heart, indicating it goes there.

Homar[/QU

Actually, the Salt River does flow over a salt deposit between Salt River Canyon and Roosevelt Lake. The salinity is actually higher than the ocean below this deposit and no fish live in this section of the river for a ways down stream of the deposit. I understand there are some unique micro organisms in that area though. The salinity is diluted back to mostly fresh water well before it reaches Roosevelt Lake. So there you have it. The reason the Salt River has it's name.

I have no comments on the LDM subject. I will be watching the show and hope it doesn't make more fools come out here and die in that rugged part of Az. Not an area for folks to go without having lots of experience in a very rugged desert environment. Dennis

 

[deducer]

Not that I care but I would think Forestry, or Whoever is in Charge
would be having conniptions

If they didn't have conniptions over Eric climbing the bat cave ladder, don't think they'd have any problems here.

That was the surprising part to me, that the FS would be so irresponsible to allow this idiotic tomfoolery (unless they snuck in that shot without the FS's knowledge). There's nothing up there but the deadly ammonia that guano produces, not to mention a high risk of contracting histoplasmosis from wading in all that guano. Of course now that it's on national TV some idiot is going to find a way to climb up there and get himself killed.

 

[somehiker]

I could see from the one pic above.

did they use water paint ? Not that I care but I would think Forestry, or Whoever is in Charge
would be having conniptions

The white X was added digitally.....modern computer graphics.
Sorta like getting zombified....

 

[somehiker]

If they didn't have conniptions over Eric climbing the bat cave ladder, don't think they'd have any problems here.

That was the surprising part to me, that the FS would be so irresponsible to allow this idiotic tomfoolery (unless they snuck in that shot without the FS's knowledge). There's nothing up there but the deadly ammonia that guano produces, not to mention a high risk of contracting histoplasmosis from wading in all that guano. Of course now that it's on national TV some idiot is going to find a way to climb up there and get himself killed.

And then some lawyer will be able to make himself enough money to BUY the LDM.

 

[wrmickel1]

It's just entertainment. Don't think anything in it is supposed to be taken seriously. Frank didn't come across like a moron to me.

If we treat it for what it really is- just a good show, it's fun to watch. Expecting anything more than that will just be a letdown to you.

No, Frank does think he's solved the Stones, and he's on the right trail. He said in the show he's never been up there, which is not very true.

Wrmickel1

 

[coazon de oro]

Howdy signal,

Makes you wonder why they are called the "Salt" Mountains. I hear that the Salt River is not salty.

I believe that paper map was made by someone using the PSM's, and trying to put the trail on one paper to use it in the mountains. I believe that's why the arrow points into the heart, indicating it goes there.

Homar[/QU

Actually, the Salt River does flow over a salt deposit between Salt River Canyon and Roosevelt Lake. The salinity is actually higher than the ocean below this deposit and no fish live in this section of the river for a ways down stream of the deposit. I understand there are some unique micro organisms in that area though. The salinity is diluted back to mostly fresh water well before it reaches Roosevelt Lake. So there you have it. The reason the Salt River has it's name.

I have no comments on the LDM subject. I will be watching the show and hope it doesn't make more fools come out here and die in that rugged part of Az. Not an area for folks to go without having lots of experience in a very rugged desert environment. Dennis

Howdy IMPDLN,

Thanks for clarifying that, I stand corrected. I had only asked one person born, and raised in the area who lives near the river by email. I actually asked him what kind of fish the Salt River had, and how salty it was. He told me about all the fresh water fish there, and told me the river was not salty at all, but he lives downstream of the lake.

Homar

 

[signal]

I imagine they have already found most of these things ahead of the filming and are merely backtracking stuff they have already discovered. I do like that it allows us all to see the type of territory around there and get an idea of the types of things and challenges people run into out there.

 

[ibjeepn]

This frank guy is a moron---all treasure hunters know that a double circle does NOT mean waterfall lmao--what a square

Really ? Hey Frank, this guy is calling you a moron.

 

[sgtfda]

Hi Rick
That's ok. At least I have Superstition gold
I miss Pennsylvania but not the weather.

 

[deducer]

And then some lawyer will be able to make himself enough money to BUY the LDM.

And if he's smart enough, he'll wait for a few more idiots to come along and then file a class action lawsuit against a certain entertainment company

 

[wrmickel1]

Hi Rick
That's ok. At least I have Superstition gold
I miss Pennsylvania but not the weather.

Sarg.

You miss Pennsylvania, Talk like that will get you a trip back to the rubber room. AZ turned you into a " A-lister " A top of your game movie star! My all time favorite Stars. The Duke,Clint Eastwood and Frank. Also a nice Hotdog!

Your biggest fan Wrmickel1