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[Terry Soloman]

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[djui5]

Tonto National Forest - Special Places

 

[somehiker]

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I'm crackin up Terry.
Nothing wrong with having a sense of humour, cause we can't be serious ALL the time.
And I'll bet every one of these guys will save your creation for posterity, as I have.
BRAVO !

 

[vastterrain]

I see Terry aka Delta Bravo seems to be very jealous ! Why ... is mining the tourists not working out so well?

[jel-uh s] adjective
feeling resentment against someone because of that person's rivalry, success, or advantages.

 

[azblackbird]

Tonto National Forest - Special Places

The Tonto Forest dudes are notorious for "thinking" they're above the law. Many a prospector has proven them wrong over the years.

 

[coazon de oro]

One little problem. A trusted source who would know told me who carved the map stones. He knew the artist. They are not as old as you think. I base my opinion on that information. That's as much as I'll say on that subject.

Howdy Sarge,

I respect your decision on wanting to go no further with this subject. It saves me the trouble of proving your source wrong with real evidence.

Homar

 

[sgtfda]

Homer I respect your opinion and consider you a friend

 

[Eldo]

One little problem. A trusted source who would know told me who carved the map stones. He knew the artist. They are not as old as you think. I base my opinion on that information. That's as much as I'll say on that subject.

You mean the replicas...? The remastered set?

..nice try again

and I was best friends with Toulouse Latrec

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[coazon de oro]

Same here Frank, heck one of my sons is a Sarge, and K-9 Officer. My house is always full of deputies, state troopers, texas rangers, and a game warden when there is smoke coming out of my pit.

Don't get me wrong, I am really enjoying the show, and am happy for you. I like the different ideas everyone has on the symbols.

 

[UncleMatt]

Frank, please forgive if this question has already been addressed by you at some point, but have you tested the paper and ink of your mappa? They have ways of determining what era paper and ink were created, so I am curious. If those tests were done, what were the results?

 

[UncleMatt]

Another question I have relates to the show itself. I'm seeing a lot of moving aerial shots, and wonder how those were accomplished? Not with a full size manned helicopter, as some of the shots are skimming over the surface at a very low altitude and no sign of downwash on the surface vegetation or soil.

 

[deducer]

Howdy Sarge,

I respect your decision on wanting to go no further with this subject. It saves me the trouble of proving your source wrong with real evidence.

Homar

Homar,

I've never seen you post conclusive proof of anything; you do, however, have a long history of making assertions like the one you just made. I would be interested in seeing your proof.

Personally, I think it's hard to argue with Frank when he is the one finding gold.

 

[deducer]

Another question I have relates to the show itself. I'm seeing a lot of moving aerial shots, and wonder how those were accomplished? Not with a full size manned helicopter, as some of the shots are skimming over the surface at a very low altitude and no sign of downwash on the surface vegetation or soil.

 

[Hitndahed]

Well,,

I watched it,,,and as others here said,,, "it's just entertainment TV".
Lots of quotes here I "liked" and those individuals have very good points.

Some of out members here HAVE FOUND gold in these mountains. There is no doubt about it.
Treasures lost,,, treasures hidden,,,treasures found.

The activity though DOES,, in my opinion foster intent from UNQUALIFIED and ILL PREPARED people to head into this very unforgiving environment.
That is my main concern with it. (the show)

No doubt about it,,, there are literally hundreds of "documented treasures" in the South West ,,
Maybe,,,, just maybe,,when I retire I will head out there and do a lil prospecting.
Knowing I will probably find nothing,,,,but then again,,maybe I will.

But all in all,,,it is a decent bit of suspense,,,

The HIT meter gives this a 4 out of 5 stars.

hehhehheh

HIt

 

[jeff of pa]

I always felt everyone should be responsible for themselves.

Therefore if they want to walk a tightrope or jump a motorcycle across the Grand canyon.
More Power to them.

And If one person is allowed, In my world everyone should be allowed.

"Buyer Beware" if you do it and and up sending a dust cloud into the air when you land.



At least someone will say "He Tried"

 

[Cubfan64]

I always felt everyone should be responsible for themselves.

Therefore if they want to walk a tightrope or jump a motorcycle across the Grand canyon.
More Power to them.

And If one person is allowed, In my world everyone should be allowed.

"Buyer Beware" if you do it and and up sending a dust cloud into the air when you land.

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At least someone will say "He Tried"

Jeff - I completely agree with you. It's a matter of personal responsibility and if you go out looking around in an area open to the public unprepared because of lack of educating yourself, you have nobody to blame but yourself if something bad happens.

 

[Hal Croves]

I always felt everyone should be responsible for themselves.

Therefore if they want to walk a tightrope or jump a motorcycle across the Grand canyon.
More Power to them.

And If one person is allowed, In my world everyone should be allowed.

"Buyer Beware" if you do it and and up sending a dust cloud into the air when you land.

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At least someone will say "He Tried"

The other side of that argument is the financial cost and risk of injury or life to those who go a look'en for you when you turn up missing. Unchecked paranoia is perhaps the most dangerous thing one will encounter in the Superstitions.


If you are reading this thread and feel inspired to give it a go, I would encourage you to follow the seven principles of "leave no trace" and to give your intended destination, travel route, and anticipated return time to someone who cares for you.


If, by chance, you find yourself unable to self extract, your chances of rescue will be greatly increased, if not guaranteed.


"Remember (enter your name) _________, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies".


Alone or in the safety of a group it's simply an unforgettable experience that will leave you wanting more.

 

[sgtfda]

Well,,

I watched it,,,and as others here said,,, "it's just entertainment TV".
Lots of quotes here I "liked" and those individuals have very good points.

Some of out members here HAVE FOUND gold in these mountains. There is no doubt about it.
Treasures lost,,, treasures hidden,,,treasures found.

The activity though DOES,, in my opinion foster intent from UNQUALIFIED and ILL PREPARED people to head into this very unforgiving environment.
That is my main concern with it. (the show)

No doubt about it,,, there are literally hundreds of "documented treasures" in the South West ,,
Maybe,,,, just maybe,,when I retire I will head out there and do a lil prospecting.
Knowing I will probably find nothing,,,,but then again,,maybe I will.

But all in all,,,it is a decent bit of suspense,,,

The HIT meter gives this a 4 out of 5 stars.

hehhehheh

HIt

Hit
Don't doubt your self. First learn how to prospect. Study the history and the mineralized areas. I did and found this on my second trip in.

 

[sgtfda]

Frank, please forgive if this question has already been addressed by you at some point, but have you tested the paper and ink of your mappa? They have ways of determining what era paper and ink were created, so I am curious. If those tests were done, what were the results?

Matt
Robert Garman photographed the map. I'm using a copy of that photo. Had a call the other day about Garman. Some of us know that a million in cash was found under his bed after he died. Garman did find a treasure and I was told where. I'm very interested in Garman and I have some stuff I plan on following up on. He was a very interesting man. I get bored easily and like chasing new things

 

[coazon de oro]

Homar,

I've never seen you post conclusive proof of anything; you do, however, have a long history of making assertions like the one you just made. I would be interested in seeing your proof.

Personally, I think it's hard to argue with Frank when he is the one finding gold.

Howdy deducer,

I have always backed my offers to the person that I make them to, via email. I have never made an offer to the general public, that would make it property of this website. I find it easy to debate with anyone, especially when they are as nice as Frank. Yes he has found gold, but it is not Dutchman gold. He's not the only one, there are many here who have claims outside the Wilderness Area.

Homar