My beliefs on dowsing

[aarthrj3811]

Hey Dowser….My rods close inward except when I am dowsing caves. ..Art

 

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[dowser]

Have you ever tried threaded rod?, or square u shaped?. I've made many different types.

 

[aarthrj3811]

I also have tried all kinds of rods. I made some out of acrylic plastic and they worked. I used some made from those bendable plastic straws at a demonstration one time. I try almost every thing that people have put on this forum. I want to know as much as I can about dowsing. When I purpose some thing on this forum I recheck it to make sure that I remember it correct. Cave Dowsing is one of the things that I do Mentally…Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

I also have tried all kinds of rods. I made some out of acrylic plastic and they worked. I used some made from those bendable plastic straws at a demonstration one time. I try almost every thing that people have put on this forum. I want to know as much as I can about dowsing. When I purpose some thing on this forum I recheck it to make sure that I remember it correct. Cave Dowsing is one of the things that I do Mentally…Art

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Art, I am impressed with your contraption. It shows you're going to some lengths to be above board, and not suspect go giving subconsious movement to the results you hoped for.

A few questions:

1) Can the rods, in your contraption, be made to swing together, by any operater movement? Like, if I were to get it could I tilt it in any way to get the rods to swing in? If so, I understand that at least you've gotten it to where an operator would practically have to try to make it do such a thing (as opposed to free-held rods in each hand which are much more in control of the user).


2) Back to the SUV story: You said your rods had a signal "coming from" the SUV. Do you mean they were both pointing in the direction of the SUV, or crossed when you got to the SUV? Because, if I'm not mistaken, the rods pointing, would be one thing: meaning "over in that direction". But the rods crossing, would mean another thing: "right here". The reason I ask, "point" vs "cross", is because if your contraption pointed, then I assume that's both rods pointing to the SUV. The context of your statement, makes it sound as if the SUV was somewhat distant from you. If it was distant from you, then the crossing of your rods would not occur till you were AT the SUV, right? So please elaborate on pointing vs crossing, as per this SUV incident.

 

[aarthrj3811]

1) Can the rods, in your contraption, be made to swing together, by any operater movement? Like, if I were to get it could I tilt it in any way to get the rods to swing in? If so, I understand that at least you've gotten it to where an operator would practically have to try to make it do such a thing (as opposed to free-held rods in each hand which are much more in control of the user).

No…They can not be made to cross…That is simple physics

2) Back to the SUV story: You said your rods had a signal "coming from" the SUV. Do you mean they were both pointing in the direction of the SUV, or crossed when you got to the SUV? Because, if I'm not mistaken, the rods pointing, would be one thing: meaning "over in that direction". But the rods crossing, would mean another thing: "right here". The reason I ask, "point" vs "cross", is because if your contraption pointed, then I assume that's both rods pointing to the SUV. The context of your statement, makes it sound as if the SUV was somewhat distant from you. If it was distant from you, then the crossing of your rods would not occur till you were AT the SUV, right? So please elaborate on pointing vs crossing, as per this SUV incident.

When you get to the signal line the rods will cross. If you drop either rod to your side the remaining rod will swing and point in the direction of the target. I can’t speak about how it works for others but that’s the way they work for me.

When I get to a signal line the rods will cross. I then turn 90 degrees facing the target. I then move my hands inward until the rods form a rough vee. I then follow the rods letting the movement of the rods guide me. When I get to the target the rods will close again.

If you make the rod holder and it works for you it would answer some of your questions….Art

 

[Tom_in_CA]

"If you drop either rod to your side the remaining rod will swing and point in the direction of the target."

To "drop either rod to your side": Does that mean that for a part of the operation, one rod is removed from the contraption, and the other one points? Or do both rods remain in there, for the full time?

I guess what I'm asking is: if the rods are crossed, then they, at that moment, are not "pointing", right? At the moment of time they "point", is it both rods pointing, or one rod pointing?

I am very sincere about this, because if it all adds up, it does deserve an answer! So thanx for bearing with me.

 

[ClonedSIM]

Also, I think I've spotted something you forgot to cover yourself for with this explanation. If the guys in the SUV were doing something to insure that the man being tested couldn't perform his test, how did your rods manage to work?? In fact, not only did they work, but they seemed to defy all your logic and actually detect the interference, rather than not working at all.

Judging by your somewhat pallid response, you seem to indicate that they were not actually blocking the other VHF signals in the area that the man being test presumably accounted for before testing. Is this correct?

Did you have an answer for this one, Art?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Also, I think I've spotted something you forgot to cover yourself for with this explanation. If the guys in the SUV were doing something to insure that the man being tested couldn't perform his test, how did your rods manage to work?? In fact, not only did they work, but they seemed to defy all your logic and actually detect the interference, rather than not working at all.

Judging by your somewhat pallid response, you seem to indicate that they were not actually blocking the other VHF signals in the area that the man being test presumably accounted for before testing. Is this correct?

I don’t know for sure if they were using a VHF transmitter. I know that a VHF will interfere with the transmission of Harmonic Resonance signals. The signal was running between the Dowser and signal source. As far as other VHF signals interfering I think you will find that was AF,s theory not mine.

On the rod holder …I do not use it in the field. I use it at times when practicing to confirm that I still have control of the Ideomotor Response. …Art

 

[aarthrj3811]

It was at that point that I saw the light...................

Ever since then... I've been skeptical of the worth or value of the practice of dowsing, and extremely negative towards those who seek to make a living by pushing poorly disguised dowsing contraptions and associating their scam gadget with borrowed terms from real science and physics, in a feeble attempt to lend some semblance of credibility to the contraption.

Hey Jerry….Have you tried the rod holder yet……It may help you learn something and let you enjoy Dowsing again….

 

[ClonedSIM]

Also, I think I've spotted something you forgot to cover yourself for with this explanation. If the guys in the SUV were doing something to insure that the man being tested couldn't perform his test, how did your rods manage to work?? In fact, not only did they work, but they seemed to defy all your logic and actually detect the interference, rather than not working at all.

Judging by your somewhat pallid response, you seem to indicate that they were not actually blocking the other VHF signals in the area that the man being test presumably accounted for before testing. Is this correct?

I don’t know for sure if they were using a VHF transmitter. I know that a VHF will interfere with the transmission of Harmonic Resonance signals. The signal was running between the Dowser and signal source. As far as other VHF signals interfering I think you will find that was AF,s theory not mine.…Art

So, you're essentially saying that not only were they somehow blocking the man's dowsing, they also somehow managed to block his, and only his, dowsing? Then that would definitely rule out VHF as a VHF signal, from what I understand, transmits much like a cellular tower, which I understand very well, in a large circle with coverage akin to that of an umbrella. So if it was a VHF transmitter they were using it would have blocked your dowsing ability as well.

I also wouldn't think that a magnet could have accomplished this, as each vehicle in that area would have contained multiple speaker magnets, some quite substantial in the larger, more powerful, stereo systems.

 

[ClonedSIM]

Art, your sneaky critics are trying to trick you into discussing prohibited ELECTRONICS related subjects with them on this Dowsing forum.

As you know from experience, the Skeptics don't care if they get banned, as long as they are successful in getting Dowsers, deleted or banned from posting on this forum. They will just exercise their computer knowledge, and be permitted to return under another ISP, and another alias.

Honest, or rational minded people won't try to outwit the moderator in that manner. Honest Treasure Hunters, are at risk of being dis-allowed to participating in any TNET forums by not complying with the special rules on this forum.

We have already been warned by the moderator. Let's not make his task more difficult by engaging in ANY discussion of Electronics, or anything pertaining to electronics with our critics.

Thanks for your consideration. Dell

And as far as you're concerns go, Dell, I find it hilarious that you feel a need to pander to the site's moderators by warning everyone away from electronics talk, while at the same time leveling unsubstantiated accusations at various unnamed skeptics. Can anyone say hypocrisy?

At any rate, the talk here is not relating to electronic treasure locating devices, unless you've invented some new doohickey that uses VHF signals to locate treasure?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

It seems like the only reason a skeptic brings up anything to do with electronics, is because electronically sounding words/phrases are used to explain how mental dowsing works. Like saying the signal line has been measured, to account for how mental dowsing works. This would beg to be discussed, and falls therefore, under mental dowsing.

 

[ClonedSIM]

It seems like the only reason a skeptic brings up anything to do with electronics, is because electronically sounding words/phrases are used to explain how mental dowsing works. Like saying the signal line has been measured, to account for how mental dowsing works. This would beg to be discussed, and falls therefore, under mental dowsing.

Nicely stated, Tom.

 

[aarthrj3811]

It seems like the only reason a skeptic brings up anything to do with electronics, is because electronically sounding words/phrases are used to explain how mental dowsing works. Like saying the signal line has been measured, to account for how mental dowsing works. This would beg to be discussed, and falls therefore, under mental dowsing.

Electronics is the study of the flow of charge through various materials and devices such as, semiconductors, resistors, inductors, capacitors, nano-structures, and vacuum tubes. All applications of electronics involve the transmission of power and possibly information. Although considered to be a theoretical branch of physics, the design and construction of electronic circuits to solve practical problems is an essential technique in the fields of electronics engineering and computer engineering.
The study of new semiconductor devices and surrounding technology is sometimes considered a branch of physics. This article focuses on engineering aspects of electronics. Other important topics include electronic waste and occupational health impacts of semiconductor manufacturing.
Sorry Tom….I see nothing that relates to Dowsing….Art

 

[ClonedSIM]

It seems like the only reason a skeptic brings up anything to do with electronics, is because electronically sounding words/phrases are used to explain how mental dowsing works. Like saying the signal line has been measured, to account for how mental dowsing works. This would beg to be discussed, and falls therefore, under mental dowsing.

Wrong Tom. Electronics are brought up by the Skeptics because they obviously don't know the difference between Mental, meta-physical Dowsing, or an application of electronics and physics, or at least the few that frequent Dowsing forums apparently don't know the difference.

Dell

Not exactly, Dell. More than one dowser has reported that the "signal lines" dowsers use to locate treasure can be measured by various electronic devices. And, as we've seen on this thread and others, mental dowsing can be blocked by various electronic devices as well. Granted, neither of these examples point to or refer to electronic devices used to locate treasure, which I'm guessing is why they haven't been deleted.

 

[ClonedSIM]

It seems like the only reason a skeptic brings up anything to do with electronics, is because electronically sounding words/phrases are used to explain how mental dowsing works. Like saying the signal line has been measured, to account for how mental dowsing works. This would beg to be discussed, and falls therefore, under mental dowsing.

Electronics is the study of the flow of charge through various materials and devices such as, semiconductors, resistors, inductors, capacitors, nano-structures, and vacuum tubes. All applications of electronics involve the transmission of power and possibly information. Although considered to be a theoretical branch of physics, the design and construction of electronic circuits to solve practical problems is an essential technique in the fields of electronics engineering and computer engineering.
The study of new semiconductor devices and surrounding technology is sometimes considered a branch of physics. This article focuses on engineering aspects of electronics. Other important topics include electronic waste and occupational health impacts of semiconductor manufacturing.
Sorry Tom….I see nothing that relates to Dowsing….Art

Art, you are absolutely correct!
Although, you didn't list the source you got your article from....

At any rate, since Art has proven that dowsing and electronics have no relation to each other, then all of the references by dowsers stating they use the signal lines generated by various metals as a path that leads them to these precious metals are incorrect?

 

[aarthrj3811]

At any rate, since Art has proven that dowsing and electronics have no relation to each other, then all of the references by dowsers stating they use the signal lines generated by various metals as a path that leads them to these precious metals are incorrect?

I looked up emissions and soon found that I could not understand them. I know these signal lines exist. I have perform experiments with a Radiodynamometer and have proved to myself that objects emmit some form of energy that can be measured. ..Art

To prove that objects emit energy or a signal is simple. Use a quart jar. Take some liquid rubber and dab it onto the center of the lid. Pull it away from the lid to create a thin string that looks like the strand of a spider web. This is the hardest part of the test. Attach a 1/2 inch Alum foil disk to the rubber strand. Screw the lid on the jar.

Place a protractor on the table with the 90 degree mark pointing to north. Set the jar on the protractor and alien the disk in a north south direction. Place a gold nugget beside the jar on the 0 degree mark of the protractor and wait for the disk to turn. Now try placing other objects by the jar one at a time. I found that a slice of onion gave off the strongest signal of anything that I tried.

What turned the disk? I can only conclude that objects emit energy.....Art

 

[ClonedSIM]

I looked up emissions and soon found that I could not understand them. I know these signal lines exist. I have perform experiments with a Radiodymometer and have proved to myself that objects emmit some form of energy that can be measured. ..Art

The question is, though, what form of energy could possibly be emitted by inert metals?

Also, I wasn't able to find information about a Radiodymometer. Could you check that spelling, or explain what it is?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Sorry about that....I didn't take the time to check the spelling...It is Radiodynamometer....Art