Misc data and adventures of a Tayopa treasure hunter

Hello Prospector77

Tempting offer indeed. But no running off on adventure for now as I have one closer to home. I have a little treasure chasing around the bedroom if I was quick enough.

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Happy elk hunting...

Crow aka old coot!
 

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Thanks Crow for the posts...they are certainly of great interest .But you know what I think,,if these paintings are moving in the crime world or already sold to private collectors in black market and hanging in a secret chamber of one wealthy elite ,,,it would be difficult to locate the paintings per se ,,,,but if one tracks the info somehow he can always tip off an information that leads to its retrieval and contend for the reward....the other is ,,,such pantings to ivade detection usually have a shabby picture drawn over them and if by chance or through the course of decades of hassling back and forth get misplaced and end up in the flea or antique market,,the best chance of detecting them as a layman is just to have information's of the exact width/length of stolen paintings...in practical terms it would be worthwhile to carry around the exact dimension information of such paintings with a ruler and check paintings in the market place routinely,,,and if you feel you get similar measurment just buy the paintings and try to check if there is another painting below(there are chemicals to do these to erase superimposed paint).It would be worth a try.Measuring paintings by rulers in markets is not strange as it seems you are trying to determine a frame ,,:),,,hence I would say the exact cm of length and width are crucial for such treasure hunting,

TT
 

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Hello TT Ya might find this treasure map of interest. It was taken from interrogation of Nazis by a military intelligence officer after the war by the organization that was the precursor to the CIA.



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Crow
 

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Crow said:
Hello TT Ya might find this treasure map of interested. It was taken from interrogation of Nazis by a military intelligence officer after the war by the organization that was the precursor to the CIA.



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Thanks Crow,,I will read the article,,but wow what is this treasure map? What is the context ?secreted Nazi gold and stolen art in Nazi controlled areas? Any past attempt to decipher it? Please add more salt to this yarn soup .:)

TT
 

tintin_treasure said:
Thanks Crow,,I will read the article,,but wow what is this treasure map? What is the context ?secreted Nazi gold and stolen art in Nazi controlled areas? Any past attempt to decipher it? Please add more salt to this yarn soup .:)

TT
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As the Russians closed in on Berlin, Himmler secretly thought about abandoning Hitler who was now a babbling madman. Himmler had sent his staff car south with gold and jewels where he intended to catch up with it to flee to Switzerland or to South America. However the bitter reality the Allies would hunt him down to ends of the earth committed suicide.

His loyal henchmen had orders if they could not make the area where the Nazis planed a last stand. They buried the loot. Unbeknownst to them by the time they had done so Himmler was already dead. They had fled and was captured as Nazis bt America field forces and interrogated. The 4 men fairly same version of approximate area where they buried the loot.

So in essence this is one of four separate map. Not all the treasure was recovered as far as it was known.

Crow
 

Crow said:
As the Russians closed in on Berlin, Himmler secretly thought about abandoning Hitler who was now a babbling madman. Himmler had sent his staff car south with gold and jewels where he intended to catch up with it to flee to Switzerland or to South America. However the bitter reality the Allies would hunt him down to ends of the earth committed suicide.

His loyal henchmen had orders if they could not make the area where the Nazis planed a last stand. They buried the loot. Unbeknownst to them by the time they had done so Himmler was already dead. They had fled and was captured as Nazis bt America field forces and interrogated. The 4 men fairly same version of approximate area where they buried the loot.

So in essence this is one of four separate map. Not all the treasure was recovered as far as it was known.

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thanks Crow,,,been reading a lot in NAzi loot before but this map story is rather new to me...was the location the ALpine regions of Austria ?
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Hello chaps

Even you want to know how easy it easy to fool the 'experts', check out a chap called "Shaun Greenhalgh" who, along with his elderly parents, fooled, mocked and ridiculed the establishment by knocking out fakes in his garden shed. Not only paintings but such things as Assyrian reliefs.

IPUK
 

Hello TT If you look on the map and names of towns and villages you will find it. After all its the thrill of the chase?

IPIU Thanks for the story. He is not the only one. Forging art is nearly as old as prostitution and grave robbing..They estimate 30% in museums are not real. The fake antiquities industry is nearly as big if not bigger than the real deal.

Anyway once again its late ya worn out old Crow his beak is drooping.

Good night....zzzzzzzzz

Crow
 

Interested Party in UK said:
Hello chaps

Even you want to know how easy it easy to fool the 'experts', check out a chap called "Shaun Greenhalgh" who, along with his elderly parents, fooled, mocked and ridiculed the establishment by knocking out fakes in his garden shed. Not only paintings but such things as Assyrian reliefs.

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Thanks IPUK,,,,
Also The names Eric Hebborn,Tom Keating,Elmyr de Hory and John Myatt also stand high in the annals of art forging history.
Some of these guys works are believed to be still hanging by the hundreds in Museums all over the world without being exposed to this day..
TT
 

Crow said:
Hello TT If you look on the map and names of towns and villages you will find it. After all its the thrill of the chase?

IPIU Thanks for the story. He is not the only one. Forging art is nearly as old as prostitution and grave robbing..They estimate 30% in museums are not real. The fake antiquities industry is nearly as big if not bigger than the real deal.

Anyway once again its late ya worn out old Crow his beak is drooping.

Good night....zzzzzzzzz

Crow
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Thanks Crow,,,goodnight and maybe you will dream of one lost painting hanging somewhere ....:laughing7:
TT
 

Have you guys heard that the Colombian president has made an announcement that a Spanish galleon called the San Jose that sank in the 18th century during a fight with a British ship, has been located off the coast near Cartagena. Its cargo has been calculated as being between $4B and $17B!


IPUK
 

Interested Party in UK said:
Have you guys heard that the Colombian president has made an announcement that a Spanish galleon called the San Jose that sank in the 18th century during a fight with a British ship, has been located off the coast near Cartagena. Its cargo has been calculated as being between $4B and $17B!


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Thanks IPUK,,,,just checked it now after seeing your post...details are due today...vast trove...
TT
 

Interested Party in UK said:
TT, have you visited Crow's island idyll??:dontknow:

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:laughing7: this year seems to have many breakthroughs in treasure claims or near finds...excluding small finds like roman hoard ,viking hoard etc,,,there is the Nazi gold train claim in Poland ,then immediately following that there was wwII gold lorries location claim ( of Russia /belarus origin hidden underground to ivade advancing Nazi troops),then Mayor of Cosenza in Italy began an ambitious serious initiative to locate the fabled Alaric tomb,,today this vast trove laden galleon find claim.

TT
 

tintin_treasure said:
:laughing7: this year seems to have many breakthroughs in treasure claims or near finds...excluding small finds like roman hoard ,viking hoard etc,,,there is the Nazi gold train claim in Poland ,then immediately following that there was wwII gold lorries location claim ( of Russia /belarus origin hidden underground to ivade advancing Nazi troops),then Mayor of Cosenza in Italy began an ambitious serious initiative to locate the fabled Alaric tomb,,today this vast trove laden galleon find claim.

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And then we wonder why the swashbuckling Trio have been busy this year on 'delicate' matters?!?!:thumbsup:

IPUK
 

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And then we wonder why the swashbuckling Trio have been busy this year on 'delicate' matters?!?!:thumbsup:

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IPUK,,,,not only the trio also you were not around here in past months,,only folks like me were hanging here while trio and you were globe troting on one of these legends that make the news8-)
TT
 

tintin_treasure said:
IPUK,,,,not only the trio also you were not around here in past months,,only folks like me were hanging here while trio and you were globe troting on one of these legends that make the news8-)
TT
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As a infamous politician once said "You can assume that, I couldn't possible say...":laughing7:

IPUK (who is now wishing TT was sooooo right..)
 

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Interested Party in UK said:
As a infamous politician once said "You can assume that, I couldn't possible say...":laughing7:

IPUK (who is now wishing TT was sooooo right..)
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IPUK,,,the present initiative in Cosenza sort of kicked off last December in 2014 as I gathered from news,,coincidentally few months earlier in 2014 I was in the obscure town of Cosenza ,,,,I stood at the very legendary river contemplating on the Alaric yarn including the lost Menora ...but rest assured I was not working with the Mayor or anyone ,,.,,,,.I was there by myself 8-)

TT
 

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