Its End Game

[ECS]

Actually they own the post you make not the information you have . They can do with your post what they wish . As they should be able to, being the Web Master's .

If I am working to buy out the other site you guys were on, then all that information in post will be mine right ?

 

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[Cryptography]

You don't want to know. lol

 

[bigscoop]

How ironic. I opened this thread and read the last post just as "I heard It Through The Grapevine" was starting to play on iHart Radio.

 

[bigscoop]

Step back fellas, take a breath and evaluate this fascination with the title of "Captain" that is completely unfounded by the original source material. Even as he is recalling the man and describing him in detail Morriss never makes reference to anything other then Mr. Beale, or, Thomas Beale, the alleged letters only being signed, TJB. The only time we encounter the title of "captain" is when Beale is detailing how he gained that elected title by the popular vote of the members in his civilian hunting party. So why all of this unfounded fascination with the title of "Captain" when, according to the original source, there was no such title beyond a civilian election at the advise of their guide?

From just this one reference of a civilian election Thomas Beale has been romanced into a "Captain Thomas J. Beale/Beall Sr." of famous and legendary proportions. Add to this that Morriss even identifies the "place by where they lived" as being near Richmond and not anywhere near New Orleans, even speculates that Beale was from some western portion of the state. So no official title of Captain, no New Orleans, no Beall, and yet today we have all manner of manufactured solution to elements that were never said or even hinted to exist.

Man, the above just sort of brought about a profound silence. Hard to argue the cold hard facts sometimes, isn't it. ......"CTJ4BS"

 

[Cryptography]

Man, the above just sort of brought about a profound silence. Hard to argue the cold hard facts sometimes, isn't it. ......"CTJ4BS"

I'm sure no one read it. If Jean has a decoding that mentions a Cap Thomas Beale by name I'll back him on that. No one here has decoded the cipher, my money is on Jean.

 

[bigscoop]

I'm sure no one read it. If Jean has a decoding that mentions a Cap Thomas Beale by name I'll back him on that. No one here has decoded the cipher, my money is on Jean.

Since you're paying for them, how many decodings would you like that have Cap. Thomas Beale in them. I can easily produce a dozen or more. Heck, I'll even produce them with "Captain Thomas J. Beale Sr." in them if you'd like.

 

[releventchair]

I'm sure no one read it. If Jean has a decoding that mentions a Cap Thomas Beale by name I'll back him on that. No one here has decoded the cipher, my money is on Jean.

Wait ...you're not Jean?

 

[ECS]

Since you're paying for them, how many decodings would you like that have Cap. Thomas Beale in them. I can easily produce a dozen or more. Heck, I'll even produce them with "Captain Thomas J. Beale Sr." in them if you'd like.

Hey I want in on that action!
I'll even produce one with Captain Thomas J Beale and (drum roll) REINE LISTER!

 

[releventchair]

Hey I want in on that action!
I'll even produce one with Captain Thomas J Beale and (drum roll) REINE LISTER!

LISTERINE® was not born till 1895.

 

[Cryptography]

Since you're paying for them, how many decodings would you like that have Cap. Thomas Beale in them. I can easily produce a dozen or more. Heck, I'll even produce them with "Captain Thomas J. Beale Sr." in them if you'd like.

But only one hyperintelligent individual has accomplished this task.

 

[bigscoop]

But only one hyperintelligent individual has accomplished this task.

Let me explain to you how you can even create your own, save you some money.
First, you go to C3 and you isolate all of the single use codes and you highlight them, these then allowing you to insert whatever alphabetical value you desire or might need to use. The next thing you do is isolate all of the multiple use codes and then you group them according to the number of times they have been used. Now then all you really need to do is to create a spreadsheet with all of these various groups of codes highlighted and arranged according to the cipher order. From here it's not all that difficult since many names, as you SO WELL know, can be spelled in any number of ways, this leaving you with quite a bit of liberty with spellings. And the absolute best part, since nobody knows what names might be in the cipher you are totally free to pick and chose and even manipulate whatever name you can make fit. Pretty simple, actually. So simple in fact that even a modestly intelligent person can pull it off while still incorporating a few names that are sure to raise a the eyebrows of the novice or unaware. You should actually give it go yourself as it can be quite enlightening.

 

[ECS]

Bigscoop, you forgot to mention that one can create a limerick from the ciphers.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

AND! RAP the BEALE CIPHERS... Thomas "Dirty Dog" Beale is coming to the TIKI BAR, in SPRING, 2016. "Cadence" is set up by Bill "Wet Willie" Murray... "Chicka Lotta, Chicka Lotta, Chicka Lotta, BOOM, BOOM! "YO MOMMA! (Mumbling MOST words)... can make out Richard Listerine... a LIMERICK... WHEE DOGGY!... Noxious Air, good, bad, UGLY AROMA... MORE mumbling words... FLAMMABLE Fumes in the room... Lizard King & "Light MY FIRE"... Mumbling to THE END...". BOOM! VERY ARTISTIC FINISH! SHOULD use it for 1/2 time show... Super-Bowl, 75.

 

[TN_Guest1523]

Let me explain to you how you can even create your own, save you some money.
First, you go to C3 and you isolate all of the single use codes and you highlight them, these then allowing you to insert whatever alphabetical value you desire or might need to use. The next thing you do is isolate all of the multiple use codes and then you group them according to the number of times they have been used. Now then all you really need to do is to create a spreadsheet with all of these various groups of codes highlighted and arranged according to the cipher order. From here it's not all that difficult since many names, as you SO WELL know, can be spelled in any number of ways, this leaving you with quite a bit of liberty with spellings. And the absolute best part, since nobody knows what names might be in the cipher you are totally free to pick and chose and even manipulate whatever name you can make fit. Pretty simple, actually. So simple in fact that even a modestly intelligent person can pull it off while still incorporating a few names that are sure to raise a the eyebrows of the novice or unaware. You should actually give it go yourself as it can be quite enlightening.

déjà vu !

 

[ECS]

But only one hyperintelligent individual has accomplished this task.

Now that was a good one! LOL!

 

[bigscoop]

"Richmond"......it is here that your author identifies the general residences of some of the party and it is also here that the author identifies as being a place of his personal and important business affairs.

The first reference to Richmond is being made in the 1820's, the second in the 1860's, and what we can take away from this is simply that "some of the party and the author" held personal attachment to Richmond. If C3 really holds the names and residences of the party members and/or their families then some of these residences will surely be near, or a part of, Richmond. Our author and Beale's alleged letters and the clear text for C2 have already told us this.

We also know, according to the original source, that the Beale papers were penned sometime prior to the publication and that in 1884, just one year prior to that publication, that we have "THE ONLY THOMAS J. BEALE OF RECORD" during the entire era residing in Jackson Ward, Richmond. No doubt that Richmond is central to the tale.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

"RICHMOND is central to the tale"... CORRECT! "It was in 1862, second year of the CONFEDERATE WAR"... THE SECRET!

 

[bigscoop]

"RICHMOND is central to the tale"... CORRECT! "It was in 1862, second year of the CONFEDERATE WAR"... THE SECRET!

Not a Civil war thing, however,.....

There are also other considerations that lend themselves to this Richmond notion as well. According to the clear text of C2 all of those listed in C3 “can be easily found.” Now then, Morriss is in Lynchburg Virginia, Richmond being just 90 miles away and we've already been told that at least some of the party lived near there, so pretty easy for Morris to try to locate them.


But what happens to “can be easily found” if these party members are scattered all over the country in distant locations like New Orleans, St. Louis, and wherever else one might suspect? Well, locating them isn't so, “can easily be found” anymore. In fact, depending on individual circumstances, in 1820/30's it could take Morriss months of travel and even years to locate them all. So here again the Richmond region just makes a lot more practical sense and it falls in line with what the story details and alleges.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

MY opinion is that the MAJORITY of the Associates/Companions were from the Upper Goose Creek Valley in Bedford County, Va. Why...? Because THEY knew of the CAVE first selected to hide the ORE, etc. It was PROBABLY Natural Bridge Cave, according to some legends... AND! A Treasure WAS buried in the North EAST or WEST corner of the UPPER Natural Bridge on Rt. 11... AND! Natural Bridge was once owned by THOMAS JEFFERSON... CHEW on THAT. for a while. HAPPY VD, GET LUCKY!

 

[TN_Guest1523]

MY opinion is that the MAJORITY of the Associates/Companions were from the Upper Goose Creek Valley in Bedford County, Va. Why...? Because THEY knew of the CAVE first selected to hide the ORE, etc. It was PROBABLY Natural Bridge Cave, according to some legends... AND! A Treasure WAS buried in the North EAST or WEST corner of the UPPER Natural Bridge on Rt. 11... AND! Natural Bridge was once owned by THOMAS JEFFERSON... CHEW on THAT. for a while. HAPPY VD, GET LUCKY!

4 miles from the tavern ?