Im going to build an LRL (seriously)

[Diohuni]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

My apologies. Bit hasty there. Yep. We're developing the BOBTECH1, whcih will sell for 50p UK.

It will perform equally as well as any of these devices. Requires minimum training, and has no expensive add ons.

We believe it should revolutionise the World of LRL, because we are bringing the price down to an everyman level.

BOBTECH1 is the culmination of the dowsing/LRL evolution.

Because we are humanitarians, we are almost giving it away, with, I hasten to add, a perpetual, no quibble, full money back guarantee.

We will happily release all our test data to show exactly how well BOBTECH1 can perform, in the right hands, and under the correct conditions of course.

We make no guarantees of performance as the data says it all. We have at least 10 scientific principles on which it is based.

We will wipe out the competition as thyey simply cannot beat our effectiveness/price coefficient.

BOBTECH1 will go up against any other variant (e.g, H3Tec) and will prove our claims without any shadow of a doubt.

We will actively market BOBTECH1 to all sectors. For the military we have a version in desert or jungle camouflage. It will also contain the secret nuclear codes so it is dual use, and we will put some LEDs on it soon.

So, as you can see, your efforts are wasted. We already have the BOBTECH1. I will forward the latest marketing presentation to anyone who is interested, irrespective of race, colour or creed. BOBTECH1 is an equal opportunities fraud (sorry, detector).

 

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[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~old_goldchaser~
Ok, I have not posted one single time on any LRL thread. I just happened to wander into this area. Dont know why I stayed. Regardless. I admit, I am a skeptic. So convince me. I would love to find some treasure in the very near future. I could really use the money. So show me how I can use one of these LRL's to find treasure. Show me how to build one of my own. I need money, I dont have it to spend 6 grand on one. Yes, I am a skeptic but I do have an open mind. I am willing to be convinced. Heck, if it means I can find some treasure...I would be nuts to not be willing to be shown how.
So, how do I do it and what do I need to do it with? How do I build an LRL and what do I have to do to make it work?
I am very serious. Show me. I am willing to learn.

I am not a do it yourself person..But the easiest and cheapest to make would the old rod type LRL’s…A few little experiments should tell you if you can use the rod..this should be helpeful.. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,19537.0.html
If you have a walkie talkie you can try this..Put a piece of gold on the floor. Put the talkie on channel 7 and have someone hold the send button down while it is also on the floor. Walk between the gold and the talkie and the rods should close..If this works you can do some other experiments with it and find out if you are going to like electronic prospecting..These talkies do not have a lot of range or a lot of depth but funn to play with..Art

 

[TabWhisperer]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~old_goldchaser~
Ok, I have not posted one single time on any LRL thread. I just happened to wander into this area. Dont know why I stayed. Regardless. I admit, I am a skeptic. So convince me. I would love to find some treasure in the very near future. I could really use the money. So show me how I can use one of these LRL's to find treasure. Show me how to build one of my own. I need money, I dont have it to spend 6 grand on one. Yes, I am a skeptic but I do have an open mind. I am willing to be convinced. Heck, if it means I can find some treasure...I would be nuts to not be willing to be shown how.
So, how do I do it and what do I need to do it with? How do I build an LRL and what do I have to do to make it work?
I am very serious. Show me. I am willing to learn.

I am not a do it yourself person..But the easiest and cheapest to make would the old rod type LRL’s…A few little experiments should tell you if you can use the rod..this should be helpeful.. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,19537.0.html
If you have a walkie talkie you can try this..Put a piece of gold on the floor. Put the talkie on channel 7 and have someone hold the send button down while it is also on the floor. Walk between the gold and the talkie and the rods should close..If this works you can do some other experiments with it and find out if you are going to like electronic prospecting..These talkies do not have a lot of range or a lot of depth but funn to play with..Art

Can you please explain how a LRL with open do-nothing circuits can allegedly find gold for miles yet a walkie talkie which actually sends and receives radio signals has a limited range? Were you just eyeballing the walkie talkies?

 

[Rudy(CA)]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~old_goldchaser~
Ok, I have not posted one single time on any LRL thread. I just happened to wander into this area. Dont know why I stayed. Regardless. I admit, I am a skeptic. So convince me. I would love to find some treasure in the very near future. I could really use the money. So show me how I can use one of these LRL's to find treasure. Show me how to build one of my own. I need money, I dont have it to spend 6 grand on one. Yes, I am a skeptic but I do have an open mind. I am willing to be convinced. Heck, if it means I can find some treasure...I would be nuts to not be willing to be shown how.
So, how do I do it and what do I need to do it with? How do I build an LRL and what do I have to do to make it work?
I am very serious. Show me. I am willing to learn.

I am not a do it yourself person..But the easiest and cheapest to make would the old rod type LRL’s…A few little experiments should tell you if you can use the rod..this should be helpeful.. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,19537.0.html
If you have a walkie talkie you can try this..Put a piece of gold on the floor. Put the talkie on channel 7 and have someone hold the send button down while it is also on the floor. Walk between the gold and the talkie and the rods should close..If this works you can do some other experiments with it and find out if you are going to like electronic prospecting..These talkies do not have a lot of range or a lot of depth but funn to play with..Art

Can you please explain how a LRL with open do-nothing circuits can allegedly find gold for miles yet a walkie talkie which actually sends and receives radio signals has a limited range? Were you just eyeballing the walkie talkies?

Resonance and ionic fields.

At least, that is the claim. A calculator programmed to excite atomic resonance of gold atoms from miles away, while
not detecting the hundreds of wedding bands or gold caps or medals that may be around between the "located" deposit
and the LRL.

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Still haven't caught on about how it works or the weight check, distance, or depth settings have you? It's ok, neither have a lot of others.

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

...and we will put some LEDs on it soon.

Nice touch, Diohuni!

You only forgot to add the invisibility model, coming soon to a crook near you!







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[Rudy(CA)]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Still haven't caught on about how it works or the weight check, distance, or depth settings have you? It's ok, neither have a lot of others.

Yeah, just like when you guys dig a hole and come up empty you blame it on microgold dust. How's that
for weight checking?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

If there were a spot with micro gold concentrated enough to pinpoint as a target, different from the rest of the ground around it, they should dig it up, put in buckets, take it home and leach it out.









Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

So that's how it works. Gee, thanks, I'll go get my pan. Art, you should have told me it was that easy.

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Just curious. How did the LRL turn out Mind giving us a guess how much time you spent building the device?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

fenix---

The last I heard, none of the LRL promoters could explain what parts to use, how to put one together, or how it was supposed to work. No explanation of how it works, prevents it from being tuned after assembly.

So, to sum it up, there is no information available on the pseudoscience of LRLs.

That would leave the hobby builder to make up his own mumbo-jumbo, I guess. But that wasn't part of the original suggested project, I don't think. And none of the promoters gave any suggestions for making up mumbo-jumbo, that I know of.

So it was a "miss" on all counts.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~EE THr~

The last I heard, none of the LRL promoters could explain what parts to use, how to put one together, or how it was supposed to work. No explanation of how it works, prevents it from being tuned after assembly.
So, to sum it up, there is no information available on the pseudoscience of LRLs.
That would leave the hobby builder to make up his own mumbo-jumbo, I guess. But that wasn't part of the original suggested project, I don't think. And none of the promoters gave any suggestions for making up mumbo-jumbo, that I know of.
So it was a "miss" on all counts.

So has LSMorgan given up to ?...It’s all our fault that you are not smart enough to build a LRL ? So what does it feel like to be an expert with no knowledge of these devices ?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

artie---

Are you asking for proof of knowledge of nothing?






I think that's another #20 on the Predictable Patterns of Con Artists list (Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?).

Why, yes! Yes it is!

Congratulations! You've racked up so many matches of predictability, that I've lost count!

Don't expect a trophy, though.

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

~EE THr~

The last I heard, none of the LRL promoters could explain what parts to use, how to put one together, or how it was supposed to work. No explanation of how it works, prevents it from being tuned after assembly.

Lets see..Most of the older models were produced by treasure hunters who determined what he wanted his device to find. Thus different components to make it do just that. He knew which components were needed by field testing each change he made. With as many as 100 to 300 devices in the world there have been many different components used for as many reasons..
There is where the big hole is in your logic..There is not one set way to make one. Some will not pick up rings. Some will not pick up rays. Some will not pick up Micro gold. Some will not pick up the mirror effect. Some will not do the coupon effect. Some will do all of the above..The operator is the key person in their use. That is why practice is so important..

Heck ..There just may be one out that is perfect..Art

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

i think I'll have to disagree. Carl has enough info posted to build a lot of them. How hard is it to bend a brazing rod, coil a piece of copper wire, glue it to the bottom of a $10. calculator, and glue them to the rod. Even simpler to just use the calc. and the rod.

Now I know you have had a soldering gun in your hand plenty. How hard is it for someone like you to go the Radio Shack, buy the parts and make a signal gen? Was dam easy for me.

I was just wondering if there was ever any intention of trying. I don't suppose it was.

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

artie---

OK. Make a suggestion for building one type. It must work for everyone, just like the makers' advertisements imply. How about one for finding coins in a park, as that should be the easiest to test.



fenix---

If there is one that doesn't require dowsing ability, and shows some sign of working, I would probably build it. Do you know of one?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

OK. Make a suggestion for building one type. It must work for everyone, just like the makers' advertisements imply. How about one for finding coins in a park, as that should be the easiest to test.

No..you just answered your own question..If you use dowsing with these devices you are doomed to failure

If there is one that doesn't require dowsing ability, and shows some sign of working, I would probably build it. Do you know of one?

 

[EE THr]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

artie---

Then why do you tell people to practice dowsing, in order to be able to work an LRL?

And why is it you say that if a person isn't feeling up to par, it won't work?

Why is it that LRLs can't be operated under pressure, like in a test?

You are being self contradictory in saying that LRL use isn't dowsing.

Illogical.



Yet another #22! At least you're consistant!





ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

 

[ClonedSIM]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

artie---

Then why do you tell people to practice dowsing, in order to be able to work an LRL?

And why is it you say that if a person isn't feeling up to par, it won't work?

Why is it that LRLs can't be operated under pressure, like in a test?

You are being self contradictory in saying that LRL use isn't dowsing.

Illogical.



Yet another #22! At least you're consistant!





ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

This is an excellent question, Art. I can't count how many times you've written that one must master dowsing before they can possibly understand the mechanics of an LRL.....

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: I'm going to build an LRL (seriously)

Let me help with this. If you use a device that swings, you have to me able to tell the difference of wind, stepping wrong, shifting your weight, a twitch of the hand, from a real reaction. If it lights up or beeps no need to learn anything about dowsing.

You can go out and work the water pipes or electric lines, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that you get the hang of telling false movements from real ones.

A mfd uses rods. The calculator uses rods. Some of the other units are "rods".

The best reactions I see, happen when I tell the person it is going to beep or vibrate and they are looking for that to happen.

Keeps their mind off the real reaction. They have no idea whats going on when it moves.