Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

I do know how things are done in North Dakota, and most are good honest people who man up and pay
up when they loose bets, but not all. Welching on a bet isnt brought on by where you are geographically,
it is an indication of a character flaw and I guarantee those flaws are found in people everywhere!

(He is right on about North Dakota beef though.)
 

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Joe and pronghorn:

Under those circumstances, it was probably a wise, but less than honourable decision by WRM to remain anonymous at the Rendezvous.
One thing's for sure though.
As Mick has proclaimed....with regard to his claims....
"A grand testament to my being, My imortellity to live forever in history."
Welching on a bet will do it too.
Wouldn't you agree ?

Regards:SH.
 

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cactusjumper said:
Wrm.,

Don't know how things are done in North Dakota, but out here if you make a bet and a condition of the bet is that you will prove it when and where you say.......you don't.......you pay.

I had a hundred dollar bill in my pocket at the Rendezvous, just in case you backed up your claim. I honor my bets.
I happen to have a very old pipe wrench. I won't make a bet with someone once they welch on a wager. I lose, I pay. You lose, you make excuses.

We're done.

Joe Ribaudo
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Joe

Does this mean were not friends anymore, Thats more then my heart can bare. What shall I do.
Ok I,m over it, Hehhhha I beleive you called me a con artist a litttle while back there Joe. And you been useing my hybrid word, a cross between wrong and runge, Lets make up, Your smart and I,m dumb, your good looking and I,m not, Your tall and I'm not. Oh wait, that ones true!

Joe I've lost nothing. You have not proved me wrong and I have not prove that I,m right, So its still the same as the time the bet was made. Its a on going project and If I proved it to you I'd loose everything, So of course I'm not saying any thing yet.

We're done' Maybe your not in such a good mood to-nite
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Take Care Joe

Babymick1
 

somehiker said:
Mick:

Wow, twenty trips in four years, including an eight month search for a heart, with flights and hotel paid for by a mysterious benefactor.
Ya'all be famous when the papers get wind of it.....your daughter too.
And a lucky man to be able to get so much time off work.
I could only wish for such a co-operative employer.
Me, I'd have to be able to pay all my expenses myself, AND legally find and sell enough to cover my paycheck ....AND deal with our version of the IRS.
But this way I'm in control of everything I do, rather than having investors to answer to.
That's just the way I see it.

I must say though, that if I preferred to "be in the back ground of things ", I wouldn't be broadcasting my stories in this forum or on DUSA.
Nor should you, probably.
Unless your benefactor and of course, the SMM who you claim .... "I can't really say quite yet, till its approved by the SMM." ... must approve any further details of your solution to the stones, gives the go-ahead.
That's also the way I see it.

Regards:SH.
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Somehiker

I control every bit and aspect of my life and all in it, I prepared early And I only work half a year for the last 11, The first rule never under judge your opponate. Ahh

Babymick1
 

wrmickel1 said:
Somehiker

I control every bit and aspect of my life and all in it, I prepared early And I only work half a year for the last 11, The first rule never under judge your opponate. Ahh

Babymick1
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Mick:

In most cases an "opponate" cannot be judged by his words alone.
With the exception of course, of individuals such as "Baghdad Bob" who made many public proclamations such as the following:

"NO", snapped Mr al-Sahaf, "We have retaken the airport. There are NO Americans there. I will take you there and show you. IN ONE HOUR!

But if I were to underestimate an opponent, I would be doing so based on his actions, rather than just his words.

Regards:SH.
 

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has anyone heard of ODESSA ? or the SS WERWOLVES ? - THEY ARE A VERY REAL NAZI GROUPS -they are escaped nazi's from WW2 germany and spies put in place by the nazi govt in various other countries before and during WW2---(it is their sworn duty to form the 4th reich) after the end of WW2 -a preist of the roman catholic church , helped provide escaping nazi's new new fake identity cards so they could flee to south american countries that werenazi freindly--(ike argentina for sample )--the original ODESSA MEN ARE DYING OFF , BUT THEIR SONS & DAUGHTERS AND GRANDKIDS RAISED FROM BIRTH TO CARRY ON THEIR PARENTS VEIWS STILL LIVE--- THERE WAS A GOOD DEAL OF UNACCOUNTED FOR NAZI LOOT AND MONEY -- THE VATICAN HELD ON MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MONEY STOLEN FROM NAZI DEATH CAMP VICTIMS AND GIVEN TO THE CHURCH BY THE NAZI'S UNTIL RECENTLY NO ONE KNEW OF IT --ONCE THIS FACT WAS EXPOSED IT HAS BEEN RETURNED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE -- be very careful , this money is blood money in the truest sense of the word , murders were committed to obtain it ,and murders might very well be committed to keep it or obtain control of it again.
 

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Annnnnnnnd 32 pages later, we're right back to the beginning again :). I ran out of popcorn a LONG time ago!
 

hooch --google "werwolf" and you will see ww2 era seed group that the nazi's set up to survive the war that and the ODESSA --MODERN neo nazi type groups of today might have been funded by old time WW2 era nazi "seed money" , with drug dealing used to raise additoinal "new" money to buy power and political influence and to kill off the "weaklings" (drug abusers) as part of "their plan" to rise to power
 

This is what I think, Apache's don't like white people, Apache's don't like Mexicans, hell Apache don't like most other indians. I think wether you want to believe in some crazy stories made up by colorful people so be it. Fact of the matter is, Apache don't want you on their land, Apache don't want you digging in their canyon walls, back in the day Apache catch you, your scalp is hanging on Apache belt, mexican, whiteman, pima, it don't matter. It's not the UFOs, its not some crazy SS officers that drove their U-Boat straight to the Arizona desert, it's not the lizard people of hollow earth and it's not some crazy ass story about talking stones that only speak German lol. Come on.
 

apaches are tough "loner" type indains true enough , and what they think of as theirs in the old days, was best left alone by outsiders true enough.

there are several groups of folks who are very ,very protective of what they veiw as "theirs".
 

The Apaches ain't that protective of the Superstitions.... I have never seen any out there.... Maybe because I'm in the wrong spot..?... Maybe....

If anyone doesn't believe the Apaches knew (some might still know) about a rich mine out there, then they should do a little research into MODERN DAY Arizona. There is an Indian tribe that is still one of the biggest beef producers in the state....

Anyone remember the "Kochera Story"?... Some don't believe it, others swear its true. Try matching up the time when the Indians all of a sudden bought a bunch of cattle in Arizona to start a heard with the time frame told in the Kochera story and see what you come up with...

If I remember correctly, the Indians took out about 50k in gold according to the Kochera story.... Now read the history about this tribe and smile when you see how many cattle they INSTANTLY bought.... Out of nowhere... The cattle business has been good for them ever since... No need to go back out for gold...

Thanks
Travis
 

Hmmm perhaps I am mistaken but the modern Apache knows well what Gold and Silver are and would like tons of it, for many things such as booze and Goils, but somehow ----.

The Yaqui are also in this catagory.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Dirty Dutchman said:
The Apaches ain't that protective of the Superstitions.... I have never seen any out there.... Maybe because I'm in the wrong spot..?... Maybe....

If anyone doesn't believe the Apaches knew (some might still know) about a rich mine out there, then they should do a little research into MODERN DAY Arizona. There is an Indian tribe that is still one of the biggest beef producers in the state....

Anyone remember the "Kochera Story"?... Some don't believe it, others swear its true. Try matching up the time when the Indians all of a sudden bought a bunch of cattle in Arizona to start a heard with the time frame told in the Kochera story and see what you come up with...

If I remember correctly, the Indians took out about 50k in gold according to the Kochera story.... Now read the history about this tribe and smile when you see how many cattle they INSTANTLY bought.... Out of nowhere... The cattle business has been good for them ever since... No need to go back out for gold...

Thanks
Travis
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DirtyDutchman

Ah I see where back to the BEEF, (In more ways then one, around here, Atleast for me anyway! But yeah have to agree there seams to be no sign of Apaches lurking out there. But its a big place and Iv'e never come across you either, so I presume ther could still be a small chance, But I don't really believe that stuff!

Babymick1
 

"It is difficult to document or prove the existence of Silas Haywood. Could it be Johnny Kochera used the name to kept his story safe from those who might research thoroughly the background of Silas Haywood? Could this be the reason for the deception on Kochera’s part? Only research will prove or disprove the existence of Sila Haywood."
T. Kollenborn

Information on the Haywood story is difficult to find. If the story is accurate, Haywood was 19 at the time he and the other 14 men road into the Superstitions. I have looked at this story and for an Apache named Haywood but have had little luck... however if Haywood was not an Apache... but belonged to some other local nation, then there is evidence to support his existence. "Silas" might simply be a taken name.
 

Double-Jack, Has located the working of the Kochera.....We are almost sure......There is a mine that has been covered over right in the location where it was said it would be found.....All the trash Dates to the Late 30's and earily 40's....It is a pit dug in a very soft black rock that crumbles in your hand....

Double-Jack Style.....
 

ELBAYO said:
Double-Jack, Has located the working of the Kochera.....We are almost sure......There is a mine that has been covered over right in the location where it was said it would be found.....All the trash Dates to the Late 30's and earily 40's....It is a pit dug in a very soft black rock that crumbles in your hand....

Double-Jack Style.....
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Maybe you can take me there someday Kurt so I can see if the area I pointed out to you guys was correct....?

Dirty Dutchman style...
 

Dirty Dutchman,
Nope! 1 Nope! 2 Nope! 3 We have never been back to your location and probably never will! That area is your area, If you ever choose to leave the area, we would then have a interest in that area....Double-Jack will not Tread on you!!


Kurt Style.......
 

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ELBAYO said:
Dirty Dutchman,
Nope! 1 Nope! 2 Nope! 3 We have never been back to your location and probably never will! That area is your area, If you ever choose to leave the area, we would then have a interest in that area....Double-Jack will not Tread on you!!


Kurt Style.......
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LOL, I know you won't Kurt, just havin some fun...

Travis
 

I was wondering if anyone has ever considered the story of the two jakes. Being a lie told by one of the jakes.
Walsh was a citizen weiser as im told wasnt.
Walsh owned property and a gold mine.
The two men were german and late in years.
If waltz was killed instead of weizer.
How difficult would it have been for weizer to take his place.
This would explain way waltz said lm not a citizen,when he clearly was a citizen.
It would also explain the differences in his recounting of the mine,and why some people came to believe they were the same person.
Also how do we know that waltzs weiser werent werewolves themselves. Finding things of value and sending the bulk back to germay.
 

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