Dutchman & government conspiracy Request

daringEagle said:
I was recently told about a corporation called Holy Stones Incorporated operating in Arizona being involved in mining and treasure hunting operation. I was told this corporation has secret ties to the Trilateral Commission, the Vatican, and a Neo Nazi group in Germany. My informant claims to be a disgruntled member of the nine man group who form this corporation. He has supplied me with the four secret logos for the corporation, and a copy of a report that was generated for the corporation about Walter Gassler, the Lost Dutchman Mine, and a second Dutchman mine dubbed the Dutchman's La Barge Punisher, which I have never heard of. The informant tells me the corporation's official logos are two medallions poured from gold removed from the Punisher mine. My request is if there is anyone who is an expert on the Walter Gassler story who is willing to look at the report and render an openion. I do not want to publish the report here because I do not own the report. As I said it has been given to me by an informant. Can anyone help?
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Please read this ...i was at the area depicted in the ruth map ...it is at red mountain ..and easy to find ..no i am not some nut case .i spent a winter in apache junction and starter reading ..most books were thee same but one said ..how could he hide a mine .. it would take him weeks to uncover it .. this is probably not the dutchmans mine also but it is the ruth map ... we walked in and down a little ways and turned arround and there it was ..a big sandstone formation leaning against a big gully .. the hoya and everything ..it was kinda spooky
 

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Why did you not move it, or move anything and look around?
What did you find, just a formation, and of what?
 

Someone sure needs attention!!! this whole thread was useless when it was started years ago....Now the same person keeps popping up with different names. Silliness I tell Ya!
 

VT:

No kiddin.
Even the title of the thread is a head-scratcher....:icon_scratch:....with more off-kilter characters than One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Or this week's Democratic National Convention.....:notworthy:
I figgur some of them must have rocks in their heads.Purple rocks....
Just killing a couple of hours on the old www., running some of the keywords from these posts through Google.
Taylor's been pushing his scheme through all kinds of websites and discussion topics.
Paranormal/Nazi History/UFOs/Nazi UFOs/Vril power ?/Anti-gravity-space-time warp ..........BB on steroids kinda stuff.
Some of the folks on these websites think the nazi's were the chosen ones, and still got a chance to rule the roost.
Here's an example.....PARA: Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain

Regards:SH.
 

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somehiker said:
VT:

No kiddin.
Even the title of the thread is a head-scratcher....:icon_scratch:....with more off-kilter characters than One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Or this week's Democratic National Convention.....:notworthy:
I figgur some of them must have rocks in their heads.Purple rocks....
Just killing a couple of hours on the old www., running some of the keywords from these posts through Google.
Taylor's been pushing his scheme through all kinds of websites and discussion topics.
Paranormal/Nazi History/UFOs/Nazi UFOs/Vril power ?/Anti-gravity-space-time warp ..........BB on steroids kinda stuff.
Some of the folks on these websites think the nazi's were the chosen ones, and still got a chance to rule the roost.
Here's an example.....PARA: Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain

Regards:SH.
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Wayne,

"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
Believe that describes many of the LDM posts.........on any Internet sites these days. I only check in to see if someone has posted something of relevance to the subject. On the other hand, they usually put a smile on my
day.:happysmiley:

Take care,

Joe
 

i found out gwynne is the expert on all things about bob ward. so taylor has the jump on whatever it is this german woman knutsorn wants to know concerning ward. i've not made any headway on the kollenborn front yet. was also told our group of bad guys (taylor, gwynne, johnson) were just at some meeting with greg davis. wonder whats that about. you know at the start of johnson's book he talks about another book that guided him. i just wonder if that was ward's book. something in ward's book having to do with the spiral staircase or something? but clearly taylor has cornered the market concerning ward. what with him having gwynne and johnson helping him do whatever the HE%# they are up to. with $25,000 on the table for info about ward and kollenborn it is worth some looking into. if she is going to be at rendezvous i'm gonna talk with her and see if i can't find out what she want to know and why she wants to know. i figure i got a shoot at the $25,000. for that amount i'll gladly be cuckoo. as a matter of fact maybe you nay sayers should stay out of this. let the rest of us guys handle it.
 

I never even looked at the date.
Im outta here.
 

for those who are interested, not the nay sayers, there is info about bob ward in taylor's book called "the dutchman's secret". and no you don't have to pay for it. it's free. this is something i find troubling about the nay sayers. they keep making comments that make people think taylor is out to get their money, or con them into buying something but every thing seem to be for free. and if you ask him to buy stock in his company he simply says no. so i don't get what the nay sayers are up to. but i think it would be best if the nay sayers just stay out of this and let the rest of us guys take care of it.

bob ward and the dios stone
Chapter Seven page 78

henry burns, bob ward and the dios stone and the thunder god
Chapter Eight page 93
 

water said:
for those who are interested, not the nay sayers, there is info about bob ward in taylor's book called "the dutchman's secret". and no you don't have to pay for it. it's free. this is something i find troubling about the nay sayers. they keep making comments that make people think taylor is out to get their money, or con them into buying something but every thing seem to be for free. and if you ask him to buy stock in his company he simply says no. so i don't get what the nay sayers are up to. but i think it would be best if the nay sayers just stay out of this and let the rest of us guys take care of it.

bob ward and the dios stone
Chapter Seven page 78

henry burns, bob ward and the dios stone and the thunder god
Chapter Eight page 93
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So, if everything is free...what makes them "our group of bad guys (taylor, gwynne, johnson)" in your opinion ?
 

We was duped!!!!! Our group of bad guys faked us out. They sent rick Gwynne to the rendezvous while taylor and Johnson went to the spiral staircase with a group of excavators who were packed in by tenton kim and some guy named slim. They were there two days and one night. The german woman Knutson was seen on a ridge above the staircase watch and photoing all that went on. I’m told the extracted something and now there is some kind of deal going on with the museum and another group. I’ve not confirmed this yet. But I have confirmed our group of bad guys were at the staircase while all of us were at the rendezvous. So they most definitely ran a fast one to dup us.
 

I talked to Rick at Dons Camp about some of these issues. If the German wants some holy stones Rick said he has a bucket full. I enjoyed our talk. He is a interesting guy.
 

That he is - every year by the end of the Rendezvous I wish I would have spent more time sitting down and talking to him. He definitely IS likeable!

As far as being "duped" by the spiral staircase crew, I suspect most of the people at the Rendezvous were like me in that we spent all of about 5 seconds thinking about it.

More power to them if they find something.
 

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Do you want to see the photos of the spiral staircase??
 

Joe - in 2005 Jesse made a couple comments about sprial staircases:

Andy Synbad dug on a tunnel system with a spiral staircase just below Hyroglyphic Canyon. Andy thought it was an Aztec treasure vault. I have been to it but only went down the shaft to the now plugged tunnel. The tunnel is in view but a large boulder obstructs entry. The spiral staircase is alleged to be some distance down the tunnel. I believe the people that dug it are either nuts or they had something to do with the petroglyphs found in the canyon above.

Jesse
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Forgot to mention a story of a spiral staircase on the south side of Blacktop Mountain. It just slipped my mind. The claim comes from people I know and believe, so their is no reason to discount them. I have been in the tunnel they spoke of, but without a light and unable to venture very far. The entrance is covered by a slab of the mountain, so virtually no light enters the tunnel. I believe this one is not an old dig, but I could be wrong. I bet someone like T.K. would know more.

Jesse
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There are lots of stories of spiral staircases associated with the Superstitions and vast underground tunnel systems that honeycomb the mountains, but I have yet to see any photographs - perhaps El Bayo will come through with something interesting.

One of the stories was particularily interesting (from a book by David Hatcher Childress) in that it described a person who followed the tunnel to the spiral staircase and went down only to find later on a large room with a cut stone throne and artifacts hanging on the walls. As usually happens in these stories however, when he came up and told the folks he was with about it, not a single one of them wanted to go back down and gather any of the artifacts or document any of it in photographs - apparently they were too afraid. I can never figure out why most of the stories end that way since everyone I know from the Rendezvous would want to be first in line to go in and see all the stuff.

Funny how that works isn't it?
 

Paul I will post some photos of the staircase,but let me say this....About 40 feet down someone or maybe mother nature caved in the Vent...We are prepairing to remove the earth to see what is under the rubble.....I don't have the photos at work ,but I will post them asap for all to see....We also want to let people know that because of this area(spiral Staircase) we have recieved Death threats from this site via instant message and would like to know who to contact? The person claims to be from a Apache brotherhood and has sent two threating messages. The second acually say's they where waiting for us two weeks.....

DJ Inc.
 

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