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[onfire]

Stocky with the never ending question How old is old enough. Were you locked in a small room when you were young and forced to watch A Christmas Story And had that line For Ralphie "Kid you'll shoot your eye out" Just give us a answer How old is to young.

 

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[0121stockpicker]

Stocky with the never ending question How old is old enough. Were you locked in a small room when you were young and forced to watch A Christmas Story And had that line For Ralphie "Kid you'll shoot your eye out" Just give us a answer How old is to young.

Actually my uncle did shoot his eye out with a BB gun so its not a very funny scene when we watch it as it was my mother who answered the door when he came home holding his eye in his hand. Btw you need to operate with the person awake.

 

[0121stockpicker]

I have a 10, 7 and 6 year old so child safety is always top of mind for me. And stories of needless child deaths probably a little more impactful.

 

[Dave44]

Actually my uncle did shoot his eye out with a BB gun so its not a very funny scene when we watch it as it was my mother who answered the door when he came home holding his eye in his hand. Btw you need to operate with the person awake.

A BB gun actually took his eye out and handed it to him as a trophy? I want to see a video of that!

As a huge proponent of critical thinking can you tell us the mechanics of such a feat? Yes, you finally said something that interested me.

 

[0121stockpicker]

A BB gun actually took his eye out and handed it to him as a trophy? I want to see a video of that!

As a huge proponent of critical thinking can you tell us the mechanics of such a feat? Yes, you finally said something that interested me.

Wasn't there, happened when he was a child. Shot a milk bottle and B&B bounced back and hit the corner of the eye. Eye hanging out by the optic nerve, etc. why would I make something like this up??

 

[Dave44]

When you said he was holding the eye in his hand it made a different picture than that.

Still wonder if it would hang out at all. Is there a doctor in the house to explain the probability of the bb making it hang out without breaking the orbital socket? Isn't there muscles involved? Sorry, it looks like the story is for effect, not fact. And you are always telling us about asking questions, looking beyond the hype, learning critical thinking and all of that.

 

[olroy70]

had a lot of bb guns, myself...........starting about 6 yrs old........ I also wonder how that could knock his eye out.........

 

[onfire]

Wasn't there, happened when he was a child. Shot a milk bottle and B&B bounced back and hit the corner of the eye. Eye hanging out by the optic nerve, etc. why would I make something like this up??

sounds like poor parental teaching should have been taught to wear safety glasses correct? just comparing your argument.

 

[0121stockpicker]

sounds like poor parental teaching should have been taught to wear safety glasses correct? just comparing your argument.

This happened in the 1940s. And after many "accidents" like this people do now use safety equipment - and that's a good thing.

 

[dieselram94]

Sometimes the safety equipment is over done. Like wearing pants while weedwacking. Most debris flies up into your face and not your legs. And if you use your trimmed correct very very little flies back at you. So I wear shorts and have vet to get even the slightest cut. But I always wear safety glasses.

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[Native Floridian]

NF, I hope your not bringing up the kids and atv's because I have one for my kid. Redneck Darwinism Talk about a personal attack...
And I disagree, lots of five year old's could pull back a light bow enough to seriously hurt or kill someone.

Diesel, LOL, not directed at you. Well, not you personally.

But now I've had some time to go back and read your ATV post it sounds like you are doing some things to give yourself peace of mind.

MY comment about ATVs and kids is based on two things.

First, I own ATVs. I have them at my place in Florida. They are fun to ride and great as tools, but they are also dangerous machines. Dangerous for adults, let alone kids. On need go no further than YOu Tube for the ATV follies. What you tube doesn't show, usually, are the trips to the ER, the broken arms, hands, legs and ankles. They don't show the deep skin abrasions or the serious burns. It all for laughs on You tube. The thing is, all of those crashes are unintentional. Unpredictable consequence of an an unexpected circumstance. Which is a fancy way of saying - Never saw it coming

Second - I've been riding motorcycles since i was 16. I don't know my total mileage, but i can tell you from 1997 thru 2006 i racked up over a half million miles on motorcycles. And I did that 100% accident free. To say I'm passionate about bikes would be an understatement. Yet, with that passion the closest my kids got to my bikes while they were growing up was watching me pull them out of the garage. Why not share my passion with them? let them ride, or get them their own bikes? Because my job as a parent is to protect them and motorcycles are dangerous. Bikes present their own set of risks and the environment in which they are ridden is also a dangerous place.

Over my motorcycling history my best friend was killed in a bike crash. His fault all the way. Too fast on a mountain pass in Colorado. He slid off a 90 foot cliff. Took a week just to find him. Another buddy was critically injured when he hit a vehicle that made an illegal U turn on an interstate. The only thing that saved his life was that the impact threw him over the car, not into it. And, by the grace of God, the car didn't run him over! It took him a year to heal up. Now we ride to Indiantown Gap National cemetary to visit our friend. What both these guys had in common? Both had more accident free miles under their belt than i do under mine. And, neither one saw it coming.

Motorcycles are dangerous. ATVs are dangerous. Even in the most experienced hands. Our job as parents is to protect our children. Putting them on a machine that could kill them is failing to do that job. Neither has any place in the hands of a child.

 

[packerbacker]

So, does anyone know where we can get bubbles for our kids? I can't believe companies actually make small bicycles and market them to kids. Don't they know how dangerous they can be. The only way to protect your children is to put them in the back room with a tv and a playstation where they can pretend to participate in life. Then they can eat a healthy salad, drink a glass of bottled water and go to bed.

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

I am glad I had the parent I did. Not some of the over protective don't even go out side ideals that must be here from some of the comments. I hunted, rode ATVs, played army, ate worms, broke bones, got sick, fished, and learned from many of the mistakes. They made shure I wore my helmet when I rode my ATV I still will not ride my motorcycle or ATV with out one. Kids need to do those things you can't shelter them from to world germs, injuries, first girl friend or boy friend breaking you heart is all part of learning. I had a cousin who's parents did not let him have a g/f, ride a bike, ect ect and when he turned 18 went to college had his first brake up, didn't get everything handed to him, failed at things went off the deep end and shot himself.

 

[packerbacker]

We just did some family bonding. Fish hooks are pointy so we stay away from dangerous things like that. We decided to all take part in putting fresh batteries in the smoke detectors so we could stay safe. By the way, our glasses are all OSHA approved!!

 

[mustangpalmer1911]

WHAT!!!! You let your kids touch batteries! What if one was leaking and they got acid on them, or did like most kids and licked the 9v! I think I should call Child Services!

 

[0121stockpicker]

WHAT!!!! You let your kids touch batteries! What if one was leaking and they got acid on them, or did like most kids and licked the 9v! I think I should call Child Services!

Sure If you want to start up a thread about children and battery safety by all means please do.

 

[Native Floridian]

I am glad I had the parent I did. Not some of the over protective don't even go out side ideals that must be here from some of the comments. I hunted, rode ATVs, played army, ate worms, broke bones, got sick, fished, and learned from many of the mistakes. They made shure I wore my helmet when I rode my ATV I still will not ride my motorcycle or ATV with out one. Kids need to do those things you can't shelter them from to world germs, injuries, first girl friend or boy friend breaking you heart is all part of learning. I had a cousin who's parents did not let him have a g/f, ride a bike, ect ect and when he turned 18 went to college had his first brake up, didn't get everything handed to him, failed at things went off the deep end and shot himself.

And then there is Tage. Tage was the envy of our neighborhood. A twelve year old with a motorcycle! A real freakin 250cc motorcycle!!! Tage killed himself on that bike not two miles from his house. Snuck out his bedroom window on night and rode off to meet his fate! About a year later his father did the same as your cousin. Couldn't handle blaming himself for his son's death.

Here is a question for you: You left out that you rode in the front seat of your parent's car unbelted. Would you let your kids or grandkids do that today? Forget law enforcement. if you could, would you? Afterall, you survived it.

I knew someone would misinterpret my post as over protecting kids. It's definately not that. It's about under protecting them. Not purposely putting them in harm's way. We substitute our fully developed judgement for their under developed judgement. People who purposely put their children in harm's way are using questionable judgement.

"Yeah, I did it when i was kid, just strap a helmet on them and send them on thier way! They gotta learn somehow!"

Like I said, Redneck Darwinism!

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

NF, you dont let your kids ride bike that is fine, it is your right as a parrent, I know parents that do and that does not make them a bad parrent, it is the parents choice to decide what their kids can do, if it includes riding mini bikes and learning to shoot it is their right as a parent and allowing their kids to do such does not make them a bad parent, and calling a parent that allows them to do so a redneck is an insult to any of our parents that allow us to do so including my mother who was NOT a redneck but a fine southern lady....

 

[packerbacker]

I don't know how far you can take this protection without building walls around your kids. Tornado, earthquake and hurricane-proof walls. Kids die playing all kinds of sports including hiking and walking down city streets. Some get shot in unprotected classrooms. Some overdose on drugs or get into poisons. Some drown. It's an over-exaggeration to state that a responsible adult would just give a kid a helmet and send them on their way to learn somehow. You don't throw a kid that has never been swimming into the deep end of the pool either. Let's get real here. You don't just hand a 5-year old a 22 rifle and a box of bullets and leave them alone to figure it out either but a well supervised 5-year old is very capable of learning how to shoot it accurately and safely and, in the process, will lose all curiosity about guns and how they work.

 

[0121stockpicker]

I don't know how far you can take this protection without building walls around your kids. Tornado, earthquake and hurricane-proof walls. Kids die playing all kinds of sports including hiking and walking down city streets. Some get shot in unprotected classrooms. Some overdose on drugs or get into poisons. Some drown. It's an over-exaggeration to state that a responsible adult would just give a kid a helmet and send them on their way to learn somehow. You don't throw a kid that has never been swimming into the deep end of the pool either. Let's get real here. You don't just hand a 5-year old a 22 rifle and a box of bullets and leave them alone to figure it out either but a well supervised 5-year old is very capable of learning how to shoot it accurately and safely and, in the process, will lose all curiosity about guns and how they work.

Sure, I guess if you feel that keeping lethal weapons out of the hands of little children is going too far? I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder.