CLUES TO THE LOST DUTCMAN MINE

[Somero]

It appears to me that Waltz, a book publisher, may have known of this Spanish Mine and added some facts of the Spanish Mine to his story.

 

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[Cubfan64]

I'll have to give that a double - I've never heard that Waltz was a book publisher before either Somero. You learn something new every day eh? Wonder if there's a source for that

 

[Somero]

I'll have to give that a double - I've never heard that Waltz was a book publisher before either Somero. You learn something new every day eh? Wonder if there's a source for that

I'm thinking either Fox News or the History Channel, after all they are unbiased sources of information much the same as Newspapers have always been with stories, why would they want to make money over the truth.

Yellow journalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Rose Bud"

 

[chlsbrns]

It's on youtube

 

[Somero]

At least chrlsbrns is doing some research into the myth, which is a good thing. Please remember to give credit to your sources and hopefully provide links to them with the cut and paste.

 

[gollum]

Its like my favorite quote:

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine."

Abraham Lincoln 1866

 

[vastterrain]

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Sierra Estrella Old Spanish Mine page

Sierra Estrella 360 degree Panorama

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.1...23,-112.21182&sspn=0.094823,0.181789&t=h&z=20

It's not near Weavers Needle but the mine/stone cabin part of the clue fits.

It appears to me that Waltz, a book publisher, may have known of this Spanish Mine and added some facts of the Spanish Mine to his story.

Pic of the stone house, mine, well.

 

[Cubfan64]

Its like my favorite quote:

"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine."

Abraham Lincoln 1866

Normally I would have just "liked" this, but it's so rare that I actually get to Laugh Out Loud at something that I thought I'd let you know I LOL'd just now .

 

[gollum]

Normally I would have just "liked" this, but it's so rare that I actually get to Laugh Out Loud at something that I thought I'd let you know I LOL'd just now .

Thanks. I did too when I first saw it, because it hits you on about four different levels.

Best - Mike

 

[chlsbrns]

Anyone here near 16th St at the Salt River?

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=2046...46+N+16th+St,+Phoenix,+Arizona+85006&t=h&z=17

What are they doing there? Digging what?

Waltz being a book publisher threw me off! It is starting to look like the Waltz mine was at his 160 acre homestead. (currently at or near 16th St at the Salt River) The stories could have been to keep people away from his home?

Not submitting a mining claim would make sense if there was gold on his homestead.

Are you allowed to metal detect the Salt River around 16th st? If it's allowed & I was there I would detect the crap out of the river area near 16th.

Watch the video FULL SCREEN!

 

[roadrunner]

I just went across 16th street on my way to my boss's house. Where it crosses the salt.
He lives by south mountain.
Did not see anything going on as I was looking around the area and up and down both sides as I crossed it.
But there has been stuff going on in the past.Digging.

 

[Cubfan64]

It's on youtube

Can you be more specific? What document states that he was a book publisher? Just saying it's "on youtube" is a little nebulous. You encouraged people to deal in facts, help us by providing some.

 

[Cubfan64]

Thanks, but I'm looking for a name and date - what directory and what year is it from so a person can go look it up for themselves

 

[chlsbrns]

It's from film. I got it at a library. I couldn't find it on the net.

 

[Loke]

It's on youtube

Oh OK - no further proof required - if it's on YouTube it just _must_ be true ...

 

[Cubfan64]

It's from film. I got it at a library. I couldn't find it on the net.

Oh goodness, I really have a tough time communicating with you . I don't care if it is or is not on the internet. If you got it from the library, it must be a city directory published by a company under a specific name and with a certain publishing date. That's all I'm asking for.

 

[Oroblanco]

If you want GOLD don't go HERE!

I think we get your message - DON'T go looking for the LDM in the Superstition Mountains! Repeating it over and over only makes your hidden agenda that much more obvious.

Apparently the effort to disrupt any discussion, discourage, and dissuade people from looking for the Lost Dutchman mine is not working out so well? The Superstition mountains belong to all of us, if we wish to go looking for a lost mine or treasure there, or to hunt deer, camp, hike, rockhounding, photograpy etc it is our right. Sorry if this upsets some people.

Mike - I too love your quote!

Oroblanco

 

[Hal Croves]

Oroblanco,
I am not sure to what degree you are joking if at all, but it seem that there is a conscious effort to dissuade people from searching the Sups. I always dismissed the "dark under-current" talk but I have found that it is real and something to be conscious of when researching. Exposing these people and their half truths is a great way to plug the holes.

The earliest "book" written on the DLM is said to date to 1895... Four years after his passing. I have not identified the tile yet but that is the date given in records. Any idea which book it could have been?

 

[cactusjumper]

Oroblanco,
I am not sure to what degree you are joking if at all, but it seem that there is a conscious effort to dissuade people from searching the Sups. I always dismissed the "dark under-current" talk but I have found that it is real and something to be conscious of when researching. Exposing these people and their half truths is a great way to plug the holes.

The earliest "book" written on the DLM is said to date to 1895... Four years after his passing. I have not identified the tile yet but that is the date given in records. Any idea which book it could have been?

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Hal,

I believe you are mistaken about that book. There may have been some early books written about the Superstitions, but I believe they were fiction and did not mention the LDM.

You are correct about the "undercurrents". I have been warning people about that for years. Can't help but think this is all related to the Spirit Mountain fiction.

Take care,

Joe

 

[Cubfan64]

Oroblanco,
I am not sure to what degree you are joking if at all, but it seem that there is a conscious effort to dissuade people from searching the Sups. I always dismissed the "dark under-current" talk but I have found that it is real and something to be conscious of when researching. Exposing these people and their half truths is a great way to plug the holes.

The earliest "book" written on the DLM is said to date to 1895... Four years after his passing. I have not identified the tile yet but that is the date given in records. Any idea which book it could have been?

I can only speak for myself, but other than a couple other "searchers," I've never been dissuaded from searching around out there at all. Perhaps I haven't been in the right places at the right times, but I've seen no evidence of any dark under current.

I guess the only real dissuader's would be the BLM and Forest Service, and I'll definitely agree that they wuold rather nobody ever search for the LDM. In fact, my guess is they would prefer nobody ever even set foot out there - it would make their jobs much easier.

You put "book" in quotation marks, so I assume that means it may not be identified as a real book. 1895 always rings a bell as far as Bicknell's newspaper article(s), but I don't know of any other book from that date offhand. There's always the mysterious "Peralta" book that Gene Reynolds claimed to have seen in the basement of Erwin's daughter's home, but the only date I've ever heard surrounding that is that Gene thought he saw a day of 1907 or 1910 or something.