Hola amigos - this is a long reply, so I ask your indulgence, thank you in advance;
Springfield wrote
You make some interesting points Oro. However, since apparently no single defining clue was provided for the LDM, the 'single clue' proposition is moot in this case. If Waltz had provided a set of GPS coordinates, for example, the game would have been over quickly. But, he didn't - in fact, we really don't know for certain what he provided.
Considering that the mine has not been found, all of the clues are "in play" and all are also suspect; one can only use them as guidelines or helpers, in my opinion, and really we can only compare what clues will fit after the mine has been found.
Springfield also wrote
The forty empty holes you refer to only supports my primary argument.
I must respectfully disagree again, that the forty empty holes only reinforces that the clues alone will never be enough to find the mine. It does not prove the clues are false or entirely useless. Almost all of these holes were dug by treasure hunters with no idea of what a gold mine or vein might look like too, they simply followed out a set of clues and dug there.
Springfield also wrote
If a mine was found in the first place, with no clues - by Waltz, Mexicans or whomever - then considering the effort that has been put out the past 120 years, it's curious it hasn't been found since. Obviously, Waltz's statement, "No miner will ever find my mine," - one that many have put credence in - then seems questionable, or at least in odds with your theory.
We don't
know what was really meant by that statement, the implication I get is that it is in an unlikely place. Most miners will not waste their time looking in ground that is not clearly showing signs of being mineralized. The mine had to be found by someone in the first place, someone had to discover it - which I believe proves that it can be found by prospecting methods. It is also possible that Waltz said this in bravado, to try to discourage other prospectors from looking, rather than because it was so utterly barren of any mineral evidence.
Springfield also wrote
I would use the term 'skeptic', not 'pessimist', and I would add that a true lost mine will only be found by a skeptic.
Have to respectfully disagree again - a skeptic won't even look, for they don't believe there is anything to it to start with. How could someone who
won't look, ever find it?
Roadrunner wrote
So,how would some one find minerals, a mineralized section of land.
Maybe you would have to use a chemical kit, or chemicals.
The geochemical method may well be the most promising, and least utilized; it is something that Waltz could not have even dreamt of for it had not been invented in his day.
Roadrunner you have hit upon another of the points that helped convince me that the LDM does exist - for there are indeed a number of minerilzed areas in the Superstitions mountains, including within the Wilderness Area, though these areas should not have been included. The fact that you can pan black sands in many of the canyons is one indicator - you can find evidence of extensive hydrothermal activity from well west of Peters mesa to Horse camp and well south. Other hydrothermal areas are on the southern edge of the Wilderness Area, got my first look at some of that just a couple years ago; namely chalcedony and float quartz. This hydrothermal activity would be the very kind of thing that could have created a rich vein of gold, and perhaps several of them in such an extensive area. In fact there is gold within the Wilderness Area too - in Fish creek for example or Tortilla creek and you can pan colors of gold in a number of canyons besides these. So there is good reason to believe that one or several rich veins of gold exist in the Superstition mountains. Also, during the mineral survey studies, one test (we have gone over this before) called the Mercury Vapor test, showed positive indications of a large and rich gold deposit in the Superstitions, but possibly deeply buried.
Chlsbrns wrote
- no, on second thought not going to bother, just thought the
"I'm done here" by Chlsbrns was the end of the verbal assault. Seems that statement was premature.
Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco
Give me a few minutes to try to figure this one out.
