Basic signs and symbols you have found

[Clay Lindsey]

Holy Cow! What a treat! I am horrible at decyphering. I have trouble tying my shoes, but I will enjoy studying this. Thank you for the post.

Clay

 

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[Old Dog]

Mi amigo Don Jose!

Welcome to the fray.
It appears as though the pannel directly to the right was painted as well at one time.
It looks to have been scrubbed, there is paint residue left.
The very first thing I do with a copy of any panell like this is to make a negative.
You see more.
This may shine some light on the subject.

 

[Shortstack]

Clay:
Looks like DM's pack horse / mule is heading in the opposite direction to where the duck is looking which fits with what you said about ducks.

Those "duck eggs" and the triangle are all too well formed to have "just happened" in nature. They must have some direct meaning for the overall puzzle.

 

[Shortstack]

Clay:
I updated my marked up photo with DM's packhorse and shadow padre. The padre turned into a shadow man's bust that looks a little like an Indian profile. And the horse / mule is walking on a ledge or well defined trail.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

good morning all: One of the first things that I do is to reduce a color photograph into the three primary colors then go from there. This is how I managed to finally find the giant Sun sign up at Tayopa. One primary cut through the folaige nicely revealing it.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Clay Lindsey]

Don Jose,

If you would Sir, please oblige me for a moment. Before I begin to even ponder the meaning of all of the symbols together. I wanted to take a guess at some of the individual symbols themselves. Some of the items I didn't label, i.e. the crosses, because it was the others I wanted to make sure I was close on. This piece of work is amazing to say the least. Thank you for your time.

Clay

 

[desertmoons]

Well i will give it a try just for fun and just because you are - The Tayopa Man!

Upper left a flying bird. So you are not there yet. Just my own thought on that.

The 3 crosses seem unusually lined up to me..but have not seen many crosses. . Perhaps up a mountain to get to the final destination? The crosses get bigger as you go up. Perhaps laying a line along those 3 crosses will give you a directional.

The jagged yellow feels like topographical info to me. Perhaps follow the trail along a river in a canyon? One where tapirs live? Or known for tapirs? Else if not tapir..those mammals down there that spend a lot of time in swamp and marshes.
Or perhaps...this trail you will find food - lots of tapirs around. Or..is there a mountain or area around named after tapirs?
That tapir head toward lower right of the panel..well must be there for a purpose.

The stuff below the jagged yellow that I am thinking of as fluff or disguise..though it could be more topo stuff.

The lower two birds..the bigger one is a symbolic representation of a bird I've seen before i am sure in Pueblo Indian iconography.

Anyway looks to me like momma bird is bending over its neck to feed the fledgling down below it. The fledgling has wide open mouth. Not sure exactly what that means but i have seen that sort of thing associated where i "think" a mine is.

So.... you have a ways to go, the trail may be steep and also go along a river in a rather steep canyon. After the canyon..you will be much closer..perhaps within a mile of your destination or much closer than that! It may be a steep climb at that point.

Look for momma bird feeding baby(ies) when you get closer..they may show up again.

Oh that bottom big bird...could it be plucking feathers or blood from its breast? That sounds familiar some how. some...legend or perhaps old metaphoric tale.

One other thing all the jagged stuff in total, in outline below the middle cross also reminds me of a boat or ark in over all shape..an old old boat. It also looks like a pack animal to me. So though the road to the heavenly reward on high may be rough and jagged..it is doable for animals.

Well..as i said just for fun. I would not use these thoughts as a guide!

 

[Texas Jay]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Randy,

That is an awesome pig ! Look closer and see if his eyes are open.
Animals such as Pigs, Lions, Bears etc...will look towards a treasure site.
If the eyes are closed you are there.

Thom

Hi Thom. After reading your post above, I am looking back through some photographs my partner and I took on our many sign-hunting adventures. We don't know if this intricate carving is a bear, a dog, or some other animal and it's not easy to tell whether his eyes are open or closed. Any observations you can make on it will be sincerely appreciated.
~Jay~

 

[10claw]

hey texas, i'm not too sharp on this but the left ear does seem to be a pointer ( maybe)

 

[hadji009]

silver to the right.

 

[Clay Lindsey]

hadji009,

May I speak for the rest of us, in the unknowledgable side of the house, and ask how you came to that conclusion?

Clay

 

[hadji009]

there is a five on the head and bear is listening to the right, small ear,and looks like a pointer at right eye. just a guess!

 

[Clay Lindsey]

Thanks...

Now that I see the 5, it jumps right out at me. Not to question your judgement, but could it be a possibility of silver to the left? Being the 5 is under the left ear listening forward in the direction he's facing?

Clay

 

[Old Dog]

Awesome carving Jay,

Good eye Brent,
But look close. is that a 5 or an 8.
I would still look to your right but would inspect that number closer.

 

[Texas Jay]

My hunting partner and I are monitoring your replies tonight and they are revealing aspects that never even crossed our minds before now. Thank you. Thom, we expanded the size of the bear photo and it is definitely a 5. I'd sure like to hear y'alls' thoughts about the meaning of the 5. Is it a distance measurement, indication of the amount of silver (or treasure), depth, or something else? I'm still reading page one of this section but will surely stay tuned in for the latest. You guys sure know what you are doing and are very observant. We have a lot more photographs of carvings and other signs that we've discovered in our travels around central Texas in the past 4 years so I will be posting some of them later on.
Thank you,
~Texas Jay

 

[cw0909]

clay i see somethings from this pic

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,149002.msg2180726.html#msg2180726

the shadow sign?, youll have to go back, and get a pic at noon to see
to the left of the shadow sign? looks like a ?, im sure thats a cross
you wouldnt have a closer pic would you, if i blow it up anymore it gets blurry
sorry meant to say i color coded, hoping it would be easier to understand

 

[Shortstack]

Hey, Texas Jay, here's my nickel's worth on that bear carving.

 

[Texas Jay]

Thanks Shortstack, hadji, Clay, 10claw, and OD for all of your ideas and possible interpretations. I need to give some more details on this bear carving to make it more understandable so I am posting a photo I took of the entire rock slab that the bear is carved into. You will notice that there are many carvings of names and initials in this same rock. Other carvings in the area seem to indicate that most of them were carved in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The right ear of the bear points towards the east. The left ear points more to the north toward a mountain range. This bear face is about the size of a small man's fist but it was the first carving, of the many in the immediate vicinity, that caught my eye the first time I explored the area nearly 35 years ago. I hope this additional information and photo will help answer some of your questions and make deciphering it easier.
~Texas Jay

 

[Clay Lindsey]

Shadow face! Looking left and down!

 

[Shortstack]

OK, Texas Jay. In my first photo mark-up, forget the "south" and "southwest" references.
In the new pix below, are a couple of ideas.

Clay, I saw him first, I saw him first. Nanni Nanni Boo Boo.