Basic signs and symbols you have found

[cw0909]

O.D.
No rant, just truth.

One of the best western historians / writers I've found is Glenn Shirley. He is / was a regular writer for Old West magazine and published many books on western history. He was possibly the first historian to debunk the "Belle Starr, Bandit Queen" idea. He showed that it was bs that BS was a gang leader and big, bad bandit. She was a camp follower who got "turned on" by bad boys. She was a Motorcycle Mama before motorcycles were invented. The dime novel writers "invented her" just like they did Wyatt Earp and Buffalo Bill Cody.

a very nice man, he loved to share is knowledge

On February 6, 2002 Glenn and Carrie Shirley attended the unveiling of the portraits of Bill Tilghman and Pistol Pete Eaton painted by Harold Holden in the state Senate chamber in Oklahoma City. This was to be Shirley's last public appearance for on February 27 he died at the age of 85

Guide to the Glenn D. Shirley Western Americana Collection
http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org...Aids/SHIRLEYCOLLECTION/tabid/355/Default.aspx

 

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[Shortstack]

Are Shirley's files and papers available for reseach at the Cowboy Hall of Fame or the OK Historical Archives??

I bet they'd be a heck of a source.

 

[hadji009]

maybe trap door with 5 steps down.notch at top is handle?or you have 5 steps to go from here to the end.

 

[Old Dog]

I wondered about that as well Brent,
That is something that may have occurred to Jay as well,
He is deep into KGC and the goings on during this time period.

 

[Texas Jay]

maybe trap door with 5 steps down.notch at top is handle?or you have 5 steps to go from here to the end.

Hi hadji009. I have spent a lot of time thinking about possible meanings to the stairs carving. Yours is one more good one that needs to be considered. While my partner and I have closely searched around this cliff, we've not yet found anything in the layout that could be represented by this carving. Who knows? Those steps could represent actual steps that have been carved into one of the mountains in the area and the notch could represent a "safe entrance" to the treasure. We are working on gaining permission from other landowners to search some of the property in the area where the answers may be found. We also have received a lot of information from trustworthy friends in the area that may help us narrow down our search but it will still involve a tremendous amount of exploring and work and may take us several years. One friend, who has been very helpful and who is very knowledgeable about the history of the area, told us that one huge treasure was recovered within 75 miles of these signs several years ago so, for all we know, these signs may point to a treasure that has already been recovered but the search will still be worth the effort to me. This friend told me that the treasure was hauled away in three heavy-duty Ryder trucks and gave some more details that I cannot share at this time. Thank you all for your assistance and I hope you will keep posting your ideas as they come to you about these signs. In March, I will be going to another site where there are many tree carvings and man-shaped trees. We've already photographed some of them but have many more that we need to photograph. When we get the next set, I will post some of them here that may interest you. Right now, however, I'm going to take my detector out and do some coinshooting as it is a beautiful, sunny day here in central Texas.
~Texas Jay

 

[cw0909]

Are Shirley's files and papers available for reseach at the Cowboy Hall of Fame or the OK Historical Archives??

I bet they'd be a heck of a source.

i think so, most of the pgs say a lot of his collection has not been completely
processed yet, if your close to OK, i think it would be worth the visit


Restrictions on Access
Only those series or portions thereof, that have been processed and finding aids created, are open for research. It is advised researchers discuss their research prior to visiting the Center.

Preferred Citation
Glenn D. Shirley Western Americana Collection, Box ##, Folder ##, Dickinson Research Center, National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum, Oklahoma City, OK.

http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org...IRLEYCOLLECTION/tabid/355/Default.aspx#access


Address:

Donald C. & Elizabeth M. Dickinson Research Center
National Cowboy & Western Heritage Museum
1700 NE 63rd Street
Oklahoma City, OK 73111

http://www.nationalcowboymuseum.org/research/cms/About/Contact/tabid/62/Default.aspx

 

[Shortstack]

I would sure hope that the Cowboy Hall of Fame has better security now than what they had in the mid to late 1990s. That place was built in one of the worse sections of OKC, but guess that stays in sync with where the OK State Archives and Museum is located.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ladies & Gentlemen. Here is another view of the cave map.. that is my friend taking a picture of it|

Don Jse de La Mancha

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

hio, Find the Sun that I mentioned, and I will post the edited Treasure map with it.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Shortstack]

OK, Don Jose:
How close are these markups?

 

[weekender]

Here is my Guess.
-Weekender

 

[Shortstack]

I may be wrong, but since you destroyed that site, and ADMITTED to destroying it;
I wouldn't think anyone will help you.

 

[Old Dog]

There are many references to this through out this thread,
I am sorry to say we can't help solve a trail of markers if the markers have been moved.

As I have said many times ...
"Moving a marker will inevitably turn a hidden treasure into a lost one."

Very sorry, I can't help.
Thom

 

[rrazrr]

Has anyone run across a carving of an elephants head with trunk and tusk?

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

I may be wrong, but since you destroyed that site, and ADMITTED to destroying it;
I wouldn't think anyone will help you.

Who else here has removed 'rocks' in order to cut other people from the trail? Leaving such small markers is an eventual advertisement for others to 'come and get it'. Doesn't withholding information, as to a site's whereabouts, accomplish the same thing as removing a sign or covering it up? Maybe I don't WANT anyone else on that trail until I can get back to it. Maybe, I will put them back if my leads pan out. Maybe I won't.

No one destoyed anything. I simply modified it for my convenience. The rocks in the picture are safely in my protective custody and are being well cared for and recieve adequate medical attention when needed. They EVEN get to write letters home. I know exactly where they belong.

Anyway, the longer they are in my possession the longer they will last. I have exact photos of where they belong. When I have no further use for them, I MIGHT put them back.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

Here is one I did not 'modify' so, no one can be made at me over it. Nanni nanni boo boo. Found in Bakersfield, TX. One mile from the nearest dwelling and several miles from the NEXT nearest dwelling.

Found the above rock about 20 feet or so from this guy.

 

[Shortstack]

If you will go to the first page of this thread and begin reading all of the posts, in order, you will begin to understand the importance of leaving signs and markers IN PLACE and not disturbing them. They may or may not be leads to treasure, but they ARE bits of history. Would you remove the stones from a medicine wheel?

I am a novice at treasure signs and marks, but I have a serious respect for history and from reading the postings of Old Dog, rangler, feather, Desertmoons, and several others; they do, too. They have a respect for history while performing their searches. In addition, moving marker rocks will destroy their "record". You can never get them back to their original positions. Any compass heading indicators have been displaced. Have you any idea how far off a compass reading will be in 5 miles if you change the base marker by 1 degree?

 

[Shortstack]

rrazrr:

Welcome to the forum.

What part of the country are you located? There has been one individual who posted a find of an elephant head, but I'll let that person post about it if they want to re-post. That person removed the post for security reasons, so I will not say "who or where".

If you'll say what part of the country you are interested in, someone knowledgeable may post a comment.

Good luck.

 

[rrazrr]

I'm in SE AZ but am working on one in OK.

 

[Blind.In.Texas]

If you will go to the first page of this thread and begin reading all of the posts, in order, you will begin to understand the importance of leaving signs and markers IN PLACE and not disturbing them. They may or may not be leads to treasure, but they ARE bits of history. Would you remove the stones from a medicine wheel?

I am a novice at treasure signs and marks, but I have a serious respect for history and from reading the postings of Old Dog, rangler, feather, Desertmoons, and several others; they do, too. They have a respect for history while performing their searches. In addition, moving marker rocks will destroy their "record". You can never get them back to their original positions. Any compass heading indicators have been displaced. Have you any idea how far off a compass reading will be in 5 miles if you change the base marker by 1 degree?

Yes I am aware of how far off that would be generally. Let me just say for the record. I just thought of some kind of marker. It never occured to me that it might be a treasure marker. As I stated in the first opening, I know nothing of signs. Also, as stated, there is a road six feet to the right. They could have been put there by a bored construction worker some odd years ago.

However. All is not lost. I have never researched treasure in that area and never given it a second thought until this day. At least the pieces of the puzzle are still safe and there is photographic evidence of how they were arranged. Consider how un-exact finding treasures are to begin with.

But, thanks for your input.