Basic signs and symbols you have found

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Yes the Spanish used bent trees,
they also used to find the trees that when killed would lay forever on the ground as pointers.
I have posted some in this thread that were as old as 300+ years.

They would trim trees and leave only one branch alive to point the way or clear trails and leave the stumps as markers.
I have posted many of these as well that are again 300+ years old.

Mesquite and Cedar work well in your part of the country.
One tell tale sign is the trimming would have been done with an axe (not a saw),
I will find a bent cedar tree for you that I put in another post and put it here as well.

Thom

 

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[Cherryman68]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thanks I started asking around "beacuse they are so neat and I want a picture of my daughter on one" and have gathered a lot of leads...

Reason I was asking is to know what to look for and which post to ask questions in. Don't want to take this one off topic if its KGC instead of Spanish.

Thom if I ever do find anything I will have to pay you a %, with out your help I would be no where.

Thanks again!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Whether or not I get anything from your find,
You are already finding treasure.
The trails themselves are treasure.

 

[Cherryman68]

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So I guess I should mail you a twig. lol

 

[truckinbutch]

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So I guess I should mail you a twig. lol

Careful what you do . Thom sent me parts of a twig and I sent him parts of a twig back and all this swelled into a lasting friendship that continues to this day .
Jim

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi Thom,

I was wondering if you could tell me why a symbol of the cross of caravaca would be at a site with other treasure related symbols?

Thanks,
Rick

Rick,
can you send me a picture of the cross?
It may be a directional thing.
The Caravaca cross is also known as the cross of Lorain,
there are many different types of this cross and they all get lumped together.
The small things that make irregularities are what determine the directional with this one.

Thom

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Cherryman,
I sent Jim a pair of rosewood dice with brass spots.
and a carved articulated teddy bear.

Jim sent me a wooden spoon that I haven't seen since I got it.
(my wife took it) LOL

Jim is the best.

Thom

 

[point hunter]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thom,

I agree with the other members and would like to join them in thanking you for this very educational thread. It rare to find a tracker of your caliber who is willing to help bring us newbies up to speed and will share honest hard earned information. I hope you publish your findings one day because I'll be one of the first to purchase a copy. Thanks again!

 

[VICTORIO]

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Old Dog, You are a Professional and a Gentleman. You are also my Buddy. " Gracias Por Todo " May God continue to Bless you, Guide you and protect you !!!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi Rick,
take another look at that cross and make sure everything is equal sized.
Especially on the lower crossbar, if it is tilted or on side is slightly longer it is distinctly directional.
The higher end of a tilted crossbar oe the longer side is the directional.
You may very well be correct as to the signature aspect.
But it never hurts to be doubly sure.

 

[desertmoons]

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Let me add my congratulations and gratitude for this thread. Thank you for your help and starting me, personally, off on a wonderful journey!

Look forward to another 1000 posts here!


Kim

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

In that case Rick,
Here is a summary of the research I have on that cross.
I know of no particular person who used it as their signature.
But it is mostly known as the wishing cross and the most famous and most popular of the wishes when placed was "Oro para ti".
It has been sported that anyone who looks upon the cross wishing the same wish as the originator will get his desire.

Below is a very shortened version of the history of the cross itself.

The town is dominated by the walled site (the walls are what remains of a Moorish castle) of the church of the Santísima y Vera Cruz (the most holy and true cross) in whose Sanctuary the cross is housed. The castle was once the local headquarters of the Knights Templar, who ran the town from 1266 until they were disbanded by Pope Clement V in 1312, though Caravaca’s development took off after the fall of Granada to Ferdinand and Isabella in 1492. The church and Sanctuary were built on the site of the castle in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, while the magnificent baroque façade, complete with large, carved pilgrim scallop shells, was added in the eighteenth.

Most of Caravaca’s beautiful churches were constructed during this same period of Murcian Renaissance, but its long earlier history as a border town between Christianity and Islam is still built into its street celebrations – which embrace the whole town – and in a less overt way into the fabric of some of its buildings. The fine wooden ceiling of the Church of the Immaculate Conception on the Calle de la Corredera, for example, was carved by Muslim converts who shaped no images into the wood, only Islamic-style patterns. Around the walls, in their own chapels and recesses, are life-size images of Our Lady and the saints. This unusual combination does not jar. The church is an echo on a grand scale of a miniature curiosity that can be found in the small number of jewellery and souvenir shops: it is possible to buy a pendant which has the town’s proudest and holiest possession, the two-armed cross, nestled into the gentle grip of an Islamic crescent moon. This thoroughly Catholic town seems entirely at ease with such juxtapositions possibly because the central historical/legendary event which encapsulates the encounter with Islam is not one of conflict and conquest but of conversion.

The story goes that on 3 May 1232 the Moorish King, Ceyt Abuceyt, dragged his prisoner, the priest Gines Perez Chirinos, out of his cell to celebrate Mass, about which the Muslim monarch had become curious. The priest made everything ready but then announced that he could not proceed without a crucifix. At this point two angels appeared, carrying the two-armed Vera Cruz and the astonished Muslim king converted immediately to Christianity. A more prosaic explanation of the presence of this piece of first-century Palestinian wood is that it was brought from the Holy Land by person or persons unknown, having originally been discovered by St Helena, mother of Constantine, on a trip to Palestine in the early fourth century.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Rick,
This isn'nt the normal trail sign.
This is a treasure sign.

Read through this thread and see how many times I have said this !
Not Many.
I wish you good luck on your search for signs.
I'm glad to help where I can.
Be sure to document your trail.
Where you are there may be a book in it.

"ORO PARA TI"
(Gold for you)

 

[Cherryman68]

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You MUST keep us informed of your progress. I'm very intrested to know where this leads. Don't need to know what you find for your own safety, but if there are any other signs symbols please let us know!

 

[Old Dog]

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I was out checking some leads this morning with a friend,
we saw another owl that is a hard one to miss.
This thing sits right in the middle of an old archaeological dig.
had to get back a ways to catch it...
guage the size by the pine tree next to it.

 

[desertmoons]

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I always did like bird watching!

Nice!

 

[Lost Horse]

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Old Dog
Nice Owl

Here is my 2 cents - Areas of Interests

 

[goldguru]

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Ribbit..

i see a Frog as well..

VN owl OD.

 

[Springfield]

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Old Dog
Nice Owl

Here is my 2 cents - Areas of Interests

Current melt value of a penny: $0.0038806. You may wish to up your ante.

 

[Old Dog]

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Dsty,
If there is a snake there it wouldn't surprise me.
The whole area is a stepped canyon side and could be quite treacherous.
Always a good idea to use the caution these guys advise when they did advise.