Basic signs and symbols you have found

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hey guy’s…..Did the Spanish send out scouting parties to locate possible mining sites? I have located a gold vein about 3 miles east of this possible symbol….Art

 

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[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Art,

I am almost positive that they (the Spanish Prospectors) covered this part of the country like ants at one time.
But for me to make a claim of (scouting parties) such a degree would be (without proof) a rather dumb idea.

What I think is that when it came to the Gold found by any means....
it was every man for himself. Or every group for them self.
Most set out in groups and found fortunes or went broke.

 

[truckinbutch]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Art,

I am almost positive that they (the Spanish Prospectors) covered this part of the country like ants at one time.
But for me to make a claim of (scouting parties) such a degree would be (without proof) a rather dumb idea.

What I think is that when it came to the Gold found by any means....
it was every man for himself. Or every group for them self.
Most set out in groups and found fortunes or went broke.

It was boyscout competition with heavier rewards,political,for the best troop.

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

What I like to do with all of these is to make them a negative image,
this makes any chisel marks or fresh breaks evident and sortable.
In a lot of cases it makes the graphiti easier to sort out.

Thom

Thom,

If there isn't a mark to the lower right hand side of this symbol wouldn't the direction that the rays are pointing be considered the path to take? Just a thought from a noob.

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Post 588, The answer may lie in the mouth, it may be a nesting bird, is there another drill hole. how deep is the one shown, whats the other sign at the bottom of the photo, is that a armadillo. Its really a very good photo, is there anything else around, thank you for the post. be safe dsty

Not really sure about the hole, my brother seemed to think that someone had used this symbol for target practice and that is why there is a hole. As far as the mouth goes I am still at a loss, I am also striking out with the armadillo. Maybe Thom or one of the other members on here might have a bit more insight since I am probably the biggest noob on here and my learning curve is huge.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

You are correct in your guess about the rays indicating direction.
The number of rays will also indicate distance as well.


I think you are correct about the bullet hole too.
It shows up like one on the negative image I posted just under yours.

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

You are correct in your guess about the rays indicating direction.
The number of rays will also indicate distance as well.


I think you are correct about the bullet hole too.
It shows up like one on the negative image I posted just under yours.

Maybe the bullet hole leads to the shooter, if we can track him down we will deal with him in a like manner. Seriously though I am kidding. I know in your other post on the picture you said that the distance is probably within a days hike. Would you know if that is based on 24 hours? So being that there are 6 rays each ray would be equal to 4 hours. Just another noob question.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Here is a link I rarely post, simply because the information is sadly incomplete.
www.treasurehuntersuniversity.com
Look into the section on measurements, And other types of measurements can be found in his Spanish/English Dictionary. This has about the best information on the subject.
It isn't that much but it is a good start.
You will find that the Spanish rarely used time as a measurement unless it is in days.
You will find that the nights were shown as well.

your sun sign is a rising sun this usually indicates an Easterly direction of travel.
A setting sun has no rays and indicates a Westerly direction.
The curve to your rays may point to a starting point.

Thom

 

[rjwmam]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Thom,

I will have to give that site some study. In the mean time if something comes to mind I will ask, and it just sounds like I just need to get out there and pack sand and get to know that part of the trail like the back of my hand.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Just take your time, and don't let the excitement make you overlook anything.
With signs this nice your trail should be pretty nice.
be on the look out for decoy trails that will lead you off into nowhere.
Stay safe and have fun.

Thom

 

[djui5]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hey guy’s…..Did the Spanish send out scouting parties to locate possible mining sites? I have located a gold vein about 3 miles east of this possible symbol….Art

Whoa! How rich is the vein?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hey djui5…I don’t know how much gold is there. I have the claim marked and ready to file. I have about 20 pounds of gold specimens before I ran into problems. A flash flood in early August moved everything in the canyon. Seven miles is a little more than I like to walk and road building is to much like work. This site is used by the military for electronic bomb runs. There is a couple of their sites up the canyon so I am waiting for them to put another road in. If you have not saw the Navy put roads in it is a site to see. They make dirt roads that are smooth and they make them fast. I just hope that they need some more practice. I would say that I have about 5 pounds of gold right now.

The story is at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,71317.0.html

My job right now is to locate gold for our kids. When I am gone and they need money it will be there for them. All they have to do is dig it…Art

 

[djui5]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

That is amazing Art!! Please post ore pictures when you can. Nice outcropping in that one photo. Congrats on the find. Must be incredible!!

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

The only photo’s I post on the internet are of finds that I intend to keep…..I have a gold photo at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,71317.0.html...Art

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Art,

That is nice high grade.
Good to see it is still being found.
Good find .

Thanks for sharing,
Thom

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

This post has no relavance to this thread.
I thought the feature in these canyons was worth sharing.

I have heard some attribute these monumente as Spanish but I honestly don't think they are.
I believe this is more ancient than Spanish.

At the end of each abuttment where a lesser canyon quits there is a guardian of stone.
A carved figure stands guerd at the end of each minor canyon.
There are places where you can see as many as four or five at a time.

Here are some really cool examples.

 

[desertmoons]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Holy guacamole!

Those are beautiful pictures, how awe inspiring.

205 and 242 especially strike me as it seems their might be circular carvings or shields on them. What a magnificent find. Perhaps new over old on some of them.

Maybe each canyon was devoted to a certain segment of society thus differing guardians. Good thing there were not 7 canyons!

Whatever happened to Old dog? Took a turn into the wrong canyon - you can find him on World 3 now. hehehe

In the realm of the mountain kings.....makes me feel humble just seeing the pics.

I too suspect much older stuff around

Even in my area i get the distinct impression that older stuff was erased. Big unusual shaped rocks with no reason for a whole face of it to be worn off - natural erosion does not seem adequate to explain it.

In one valley, remnants of suspiciously square like potential giant "statues" that would have looked out to the north and west , and over a potential ceremonial area. Then again it could be my imagination. Its all gone now though - if it was ever there to begin with. Still I keep it in mind and hope to find something definitive someday.

I need a graphics program that will easily cut out rocks so i can try putting those statues together again at least on the computer.

Your site though - just wow!!!

Well here are one or maybe two more modern faces....these really stand out from farther away. Both have beards and maybe mustaches.


Square shaped beards were popular among older civilizations..still these faces strike me as more modern. The headgear i suppose.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Holy guacamole!

Those are beautiful pictures, how awe inspiring.

205 and 242 especially strike me as it seems their might be circular carvings or shields on them. What a magnificent find. Perhaps new over old on some of them.

Maybe each canyon was devoted to a certain segment of society thus differing guardians. Good thing there were not 7 canyons!

Whatever happened to Old dog? Took a turn into the wrong canyon - you can find him on World 3 now. hehehe

In the realm of the mountain kings.....makes me feel humble just seeing the pics.

I too suspect much older stuff around

Even in my area i get the distinct impression that older stuff was erased. Big unusual shaped rocks with no reason for a whole face of it to be worn off - natural erosion does not seem adequate to explain it.

In one valley, remnants of suspiciously square like potential giant "statues" that would have looked out to the north and west , and over a potential ceremonial area. Then again it could be my imagination. Its all gone now though - if it was ever there to begin with. Still I keep it in mind and hope to find something definitive someday.

I need a graphics program that will easily cut out rocks so i can try putting those statues together again at least on the computer.

Your site though - just wow!!!

Well here are one or maybe two more modern faces....these really stand out from farther away. Both have beards and maybe mustaches.


Square shaped beards were popular among older civilizations..still these faces strike me as more modern. The headgear i suppose.

You are right !
I ended up in the twilight Zone !
There are way more than 7 canyons !
This is probably just the first 5 or so miles!
It goes on for another 20 miles or more.
There are also Spanish signs that Bob has been posting, as well as native pictures and petroglyphs.
A person could spend a lifetime lost in wonder in these canyons.

You seem to be doing pretty well finding the signs.
The trail usually goes in the direction the face is looking.
The way to test this out is to go in that direction a few yards and turn back...
You probably won't see the face.
If you do you are on a main trail that goes both ways.
This is the easy way to figure out what kind of trail it is.
Most sites had several trails.
One going in, one coming out and another marked with beautiful signs and monuments for the King's representative to come in on, or the royal trail.

Thom

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Not sure if these were left by the Spanish,
or if someone else put them here as some kind of marker.

None the less they are cool.
and they are still there.

three hand drills in stone.

 

[CanadianTrout]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

A hand drill? I think I have heard of this before. Is that where a guy holds the drill shaft and gives it a turn after another guy with a sledge gives it a wallop? So it goes: wallop - turn -wallop - turn etc right?

Pretty slow progress I would imagine..... another thought just struck me.... I would rather be the guy with the sledge than the guy with teh turn job... yikes!