Basic signs and symbols you have found

[Leones Corazon]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

OD...send me a fullsize of that will ya...
I'll try and email a few things to you here in a short.
Testing the long string directional sensor...hope to be
on case break tomorrow...if so from the new lower site
in the parking area i am being pulled up and to the left
just like CS1's hill where the reale was found and how
for lack of better words i was drawn to it and got all
fidigty to take the look see. Or i could put it off until
wed when we should be back in the hole and we could
revisit CS1 first hole for a bit and get to working on our
canyon....

That picture you had hand drawn of the wierd cross you saw
is negev ligature...early hebrew which was a more simple
version of the egyptian glyph's used by the phoenicians....we
sure have ourself a historical anomoly by the tail this time!

DW



DW

 

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[hagerman]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

old dog and azstomper, you two seem to have been doing this for quite a while. Thank you for all the information from everyone on this thread.
I am just curious about what is at the end of these trails. I read alot about following them but not anything that was found along them or at the end. I am very interested in the spanish and i would like to see some of what has been found from people who search for these trails. I understand that people want to keep some things secret.
I would just like to know what else there is other than the symbols and signs left by the spanish.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hagerman,

Other than some incidental small thing found as your trail progresses, the end of a trail becomes a very personal and private thing. If it turns out that the Spanish have at one time come back and recovered what they left, this information may very well get posted.

Otherwise there are usually some very good reasons not to advertise the fact that a trail has reached a conclusion.
But some of the things found along the way will always be of significant importance. they become the proof that the trail is viable and that you are chasing much more than just signs and symbols put there by an unknown entity

Let me look through some disks and see what I can find if nothing else I will add a new picture or two with a couple of this kind of thing and an explanation as to what it is.

Here are a couple hard to find end signs that will let you know when the trail is at the end. They were posted earlier in the thread but are always repeatable. Note there will always be one more sign after each of these, these are very small signs and are always the second to the last sign.



Thom

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

These items are called Jingles,
They were attached to the bridle of a Horse.
Several sets of these were found.
We suspect they were removed and thrown away in an extreme effort to reduce noise.
We also found crossbow bolts at this camp.

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Definitely would have to have horses with a special kind of temperment to wear those on their bridles. They certainly would make noise too. I can see where they would want to remove them if being quiet was important. Those signs are interesting too....can't claim they are natural by any means. What is the significance of the one having a cross and the other not?

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Cyndi,
The one with the cross above it is SJ (Jesuit) and the other without the cross is Castillian (Royal Spanish)
They both mean the same thing. end of trail, or end of search, next sign is final sign.

Same application applies to this post as the previous.
The rest of these trails are not going to be posted.
sorry

A really cool part of those Jingles is that the links are hand forged,
and survived the centuries on the ground around an old campfire pit.
The fire was all there which is unusual as they usually dug a hole and buried alltraces of their passing.
This adds to the theory that they were in a hurry and were being either persued or needing to move quickly and quietly away.

Thom

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Very interesting thanks. I can totally understand why you would not post more of the trail....kinda surprised you post as much as you do on these and certainly appreciate it. As for the jingles....those would be a treasure in themselves. Too cool the history of them!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Here is a couple signs in combination that give directions to find the treasure.
the sign on the left is the infamous number seven,
The sign on the right look like the symbol Pi Or a pair of parentheses with a lid on it.
It is the symbol for a closed shaft. the top of the stone tells which direction to go to get to the next sign.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Figured it was time to post a death trap here.

This one is a flipper. look up this short 15 foot corridor at the stack of stones in front of the crack.
the first thing you will note is that at one time they were mortared together with caliche. Caliche is a plaster like substance the Spanish miners used to conceal things they didn't want you to see. They obviously wanted you to think that this stack of stones was one stone. It would have worked if the weather wasn't pretty extreme at times here.

The stone on the left is a large thick triangle shaped stone of MANY tons There is a slab on the top that is shaped to fit the edge on the inside and add weight to the inside edge.
The bottom point is pivoting on the flat stones at the bottom.
The top far corner is pinioned just in from the corner and the top close corner is held up only by the corner of the top rock in the stack.

In other words move the top rock and BLAM.
That big setup on the left will crush anything in the corridor,
effectively blocking access to the crack.
Very simply diabolical.

In the second picture you can see the stack as it sits today.
you can also see one of several holes drilled in the big triangle stone where a man with a long bar could lever this thing into place.

Thom

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Holy smokes...would be interesting to see how to get past that one. evil crafty minds

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

The truly evil part is adding the weight on the inside edge of this thing,
just to insure that anyone in the corridor is nailed when the thing flips.

Thom

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

I wish I could stand there and study it and try to figure out how to get past it....or see you figure out how to get past it....definitely would take some ingenuity! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Monk]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Old Dog! If your sure that this is a trap that is hiding something, And it does look like it! then you owe it to yourself to move the stones. No one would go to all that work to bury a small amount of treasure. Lets hope it's in a place that will give you access to do what's needed to be done. But by all means check it out, could be a big one. Lets hope it can be done on the quiet. Good Luck.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Hi Monk,
Thanks for dropping in !
This one is as easy as wedging the top stone in the stack to prevent moving,
and jacking up the inside of the triangle and propping it with more stones.
all that is needed is a couple inches of clearance,
once stable recovery should be a cinch.
Am waiting until my partner has time to help with it.
The oilfield keeps him pretty busy lately as he is one of only a fist full of guys who knows the job he does.
He is the guy who sends coordinates to the directional drill tool when it is operating.

We found this one together and I owe it to him to just be patient.
Besides, better safe, than ... well you know.

Thom

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

squished! Much better safe!!

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

I was just recalling an old grammar school lesson ... LOL,

Dead is the only adjective that cannot be compared.
Like good, Better and best
Wet, wetter and wettest
Dead is just Dead.
No in between about it.

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

well yeah....guess you got that right....that would be squishedest as you can get as well! No dead allowed my friend! Not even squished a little! Got it?

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

So ....
You are saying , if I get killed you'll never speak to me again.

Gotcha,
Thom

 

[Cynangyl]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

If you got killed I would never GET to speak to you again and it would surely break my heart. You are entirely too special and I just want ya safe.

 

[Old Dog]

Re: Basic Spanish signs and symbols you have found

Laugh with me Cyndi,

I don't plan on leaving until I figure out how to take it with me ...


or make people think I did.

I can out wit a three hundred year old Spaniard.

LOL
Thom