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Re: 2011 DUTCH HUNTER'S RENDEZVOUS

do the mine was not at the location i beleived it was , and yes i still do beleive the mine is at the northeastern end of 3179 .. and that will change in my life time .. to many peices of evidence place it there .. even if i did not find it .i did enjoy the expedition and the rendezous and the people that i did get to see why i was there . i have been sick for a few days and i am still trying to get over the hike, it was one i wont soon forget . mike J said it was one of the worst he has ever seen ....

i hope to come back and explain in more detail some time .. but i have been trying to recover and catch up on things i had on my list ..

the LDM is real and i do beleive it is on the northern side of that hill...

as i said i would be ending my research into the mine and what i saw in 1979 ..

i wish you well ... :coffee2:

i may not have found the mine at the location is beleived it was at , but it is there some where in that area on top of that hill , 3179 ...

its a matter of time before someone finds it ,,,

it just wont be me ... good luck to all of you .. :coffee2:
 

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Bob,

Kudos for coming to the Rendezvous and making the hike. Any of the people there who had spent time in the Superstitions would have told you that your hike was far from difficult. It's never a good idea to underestimate the Supes.

As I told you some time ago, the area you were going to was easy to get to and had been searched for years. We all told you that it was important to know the history of the people who had explored the range. Without knowing that history, it would be like you taking a blind ship (no electronics) into a sea of shoals.

Some time ago, Chuck Crawford claimed he found a church treasure in that very location. Chuck did have a pretty good reputation as a......prevaricator. IMHO, in that respect, he was much like Bob Ward.
The hole full of rocks you found, could very well have been his old dig.

There are faces on the hill above, as well as some old ruins. In that respect, you were in a good location.......it seems.

I am sorry your dream did not work out like you wanted it to, but the only failure would have been in not trying. You should have no regrets.

It was good meeting you.

Take care,

Joe
 

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Is anyone going to honor the Bowman with a photograph for the rest of us?
 

Re: 2011 DUTCH HUNTER'S RENDEZVOUS

EE,

I posted a number of them in a prior post on this page.

Joe
 

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BB, :coffee2: :coffee2: :thumbsup: :notworthy: :headbang: :hello2: :hello:

In the end I am glad that I can call you my friend, you tried, one can ask no more. However, never give up on the LDM. Keep working on it, who knows?

I have no idea how many times I hit the end of the search for Tayopa, only to stumble upon the next step, then the next one, and so on..

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. yer purtier than I thought, :tongue3: but you would never fit your old bell bottoms. heheheheh
 

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EE THr said:
Is anyone going to honor the Bowman with a photograph for the rest of us?
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EE THr,

Perhaps you would like a single picture with the person known here as BlindBowman's (Mr. Robert Lawton) name on it.

He is flanked by his hiking partner and friend in the green shirt, Mr. Mike Jenney.

This picture was taken just after retuning from a hike to the site he believed to be the LDM and carrying climbing gear in their packs that were weighing around a hundred pounds. So if you're wondering why they are sweating, that's it.

-Ken

HUMMM... just had a thought. Was it really climbing gear in those packs or was it... You decide.
 

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Re: 2011 DUTCH HUNTER'S RENDEZVOUS

Joe
Does anyone dought that this was a scam from the beginning and the assay method was "witchcraft" or am I wrong?

Bill
 

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g'afternoon Guardian of my steak": Can you clarify something for me on the assay report?

It lists Au: 'Trace', and Ag: 4.11 oz per ton.

Then below it lists 33.14 oz. / ton Platinum Gp. and Au.

???????????????

Also it lists this report as no. 0040 ?? This assay operation certainly hasn't been in operation very long,
or it is a private one which raises questions.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Re: 2011 DUTCH HUNTER'S RENDEZVOUS

Gentlemen,

As I have said many times, "I don't know $#!t about rocks". While I have written any number of posts which may seem to contradict that assertion, it's all BS. On the other hand, I do know where to look for such information......usually on my bookshelf. After reading the pertinent information it is lost in the resulting haze, leaving me just enough time to post something that looks legit. :icon_scratch:

On the other hand, (I think I'm running out of hands) I have retained a little of the scuttlebutt that has been drifting around the Dutch Hunting Community about Mr. Crawford. None of it is from personal knowledge, but it is from trusted sources. You will need to do your own research and develop your own sources.

Good luck,

Joe
 

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Don,
I remember the reading something about this and one of the big problems was thr method he used to assay the ore. It's not a traditional fire assay but a his own proprietary system called "Pyro Chemical" or something to that effect and his method is the only one that will show the actual and true values.

Bill
 

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Bill,

.....and his method is not accepted or used by any other assayer in the world? :dontknow:

Joe
 

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G'afternoon BILL: :coffee2: :coffee2: thanks, having been an assayer myself for a bit in my checkered career, which included everything but work, I was curious.

As for the Pt group metals, I believe that there are only a handful of assayers in the US that are capable of accurate work in that field.

Personlly, I would reread any contract with them over and over again.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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Don,
I am sure that you know a lot more about assaying than I do, I had just never heard of this "pyrochemical" process being used in assaying gold/platinum, is it a real deal?. and from what I remember the samples in question were also asssayed in a conventional manner by US Bureau of mines and another company in Tucson that I forgot the name of and the values reported were "negligible".
The whole Ramstar affair struck me a another scam.

Bill
 

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Joe,
Yes that is the only context that I have ever heard of Pyro-chemical used in and I certaily do not understand it.
Thanks,
Bill
 

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cactusjumper,
You posted: "bb's location is in the exact spot that Chuck Crawford claimed to have found a church treasure cache." and then "The hole full of rocks you found, could very well have been his old dig." Could you help by being more specific regarding your thoughts on Crawford's/bb's location? I have seen Crawford's map and am struggling to make the connection. Any help would be appreciated!
 

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Bill,

I did not bother to read the contents of the site, as it was immediately clear that it was above my mental pay grade.......so to speak. :dontknow:

Joe
 

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