2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jefff of Pa,

Don't worry guys...we ABORT our exploration to these japs cave graveyard...besides its improper to make money out of it...the area is very far, our limited logistics will be exhausted.
We will divert our attention to relocate the Japs bomber wreckage...according to our asset the japs camouflage plane has machine gun on top and twin engine....and the cargo (believe to be treasures is still intact)...I will post later the seriaL number of these bomer or cargo camouflage japs plane...
Anyway, these are just treasure leads...hopefully we can go to the jungle area and investigate it fully...our only problem its already rainy season... ...15 hr. pumpboat ride is scary due to high waves and jungle hiking would be very difficult...
...but thats usual lifestyle and risk of real explorers and treasure hunters who often criticize by armchair treasure hunter...

 

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[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Great to hear GBoy.

Sometimes us Treasure Hunters get a Bad Reputation,
just out of Jealousy.
No reason to add Fuel to the Fire, by doing something
completly wrong

Good Luck with the Bomber.
It would be Awsome if you find it.

JEFF

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Goldlilly/Jeff,

Our team decided that we will concentrate on the Japs plane exploration, we are just trying to raise some funds from our friends...hopefully we can go there ASAP bcoz rainy season is fast approaching...
According to our native assets...the japs plane window is thick when they try to knock... it had a machine gun on top and its twin engine...they notice some cargoes/boxes inside....hopefully it had gold on it or any valuables.. ...and of course, we can only confirmed it once we saw it personally.

 

[merx688]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Attention everyone, there is no treasure here. no proof that there has ever been any. Uncle Douglas even stated that there wasn't any to begin with. We apologize for wasting your valuable time, lets all go and check out the other more interesting topics like Pancho Villa's treasure (check it out, a lot more credible than this fairy tale)

no bombers, trucks, tanks or ships filled with gold around here ok? The Philippines is NOT an interesting country, go to Luxembourg instead for hidden gold ha?

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

there is no treasure here. no proof that there has ever been any. .....
..... even stated that there wasn't any to begin with.

ROFLMAO !!!!

How many times have I heard those Sentences Before ?

 

[GPR]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Attention everyone, there is no treasure here. no proof that there has ever been any. Uncle Douglas even stated that there wasn't any to begin with. We apologize for wasting your valuable time, lets all go and check out the other more interesting topics like Pancho Villa's treasure (check it out, a lot more credible than this fairy tale)

no bombers, trucks, tanks or ships filled with gold around here ok? The Philippines is NOT an interesting country, go to Luxembourg instead for hidden gold ha?

reality check or wrong post?.....merx, try to read the tittle of this thread....this is not Pancho Villa's treasure or does it says Philippines is interesting?......if you find that the philippines is not interesting country.....then try to get some sense that you are offending us (filipinos).....and when does mexicans (if your a mexican) called Douglas an "uncle"? read history books and see it for youself..... google it.......before you comment try to research first ok?......you may read some like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama#@!$%#@!a's_gold
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/WCC/Yama#@!$%#@!a1.htm
(the rest research your self hehe...)

and one more thing if you find philipines not interesting (nobody ask you huh?).....why you just pop-up and apologize?..this is a treasure thread...treasure is hidden my friend.....no proof needed mmm may be just a hint or two......we dont have to explain it further...you need to dig your own because to show you a proof is to show you the treasure......just a 2 cent advice....

 

[merx688]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

dear gpr,

i am filipino. there is too muCh Information poster here Already. It would be better for a lot of people if we Simply deny the existence of WAr looT in this Country. tHat Is my two ceNtavo opinion on this matter-so help me God.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

dear gpr,

i am filipino. there is too muCh Information poster here Already. It would be better for a lot of people if we Simply deny the existence of WAr looT in this Country. tHat Is my two ceNtavo opinion on this matter-so help me God.

if your going to deny, then why post at all ?
This is a Forum for Information.


Sharing Expierences.
Showing Finds.
Asking Questions, Etc.

Those of us who Read this Thread look forward
to the Updates. as long as they continue to
be reality. History, Conjecture, & Serious questions,
without attacking anyone or their Beliefs.

I hope I said that right :P

P.S.
I knew what you Meant Merxx, That's Why I laughed
& didn't Delete. However I disagree With your Last
Post.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

THnters,

Hey !!...everybody is just giving a reverse psychology by merxx....and all of you caught by surprise... ha,ha,ha.........
He was just tired of depending Yamashita treasure existence, thats why its better to deny it at all.....you have a point there man...

SUSPECTED JAPANESE STRAGGLER MONITORED
Anyway, our team had monitored a hermit man...suspected to be a japs straggler, according to our assets these hermit man...had a Japs or light skinned features in contrast to brown skinned filipinos...
He was spotted only twice by our native asset near our suspected treasure cave area...however the old hermit man was so elusive and doesn't want to mingle to anybody else. Thats why we wanted to talk to him...however if he will still elude us,
WE WILL TRAP HIM BY GIVING SOME BAIT....oooppss...of course we are baiting a man not a wild boar....and our bait?....several LEAFLETS to be scattered with japs character or messages to convince him to return to japan (and give us his treasure hoard )
....our only problem, WE DO NOT KNOW HOW TO WRITE MESSAGES IN JAPANESE CHARACTERS.

Since the old hermit man (japs straggler) is so elusive, our plan is to scattered in the area maybe 50 leaflets with japs characters messages and japs newspaper, so that he will be convince to surrender to us and be returned to japan , of course we will ask his hidden or guarded treasures....

IS THERE ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO WRITE JAPANESE HERE?
We do not know how to write japanese messages ...pls. help me by posting some sample of leaflets....i will print and xerox it and scattered in the area...hoping it would be seen and read by our suspected japs straggler....

Remember...If indeed this hermit man is a real japs straggler...ITS WOULD SURELY SHOCK THE WORLD...he could be the most trusted and loyal soldier... guarding his military post for the last 60 years?....

 

[AuDuck]

Or even a cold...

Greetings All,been reading for hours about all this PI treasures and sites....Wishing all ya'llthe best of luck but I for one would love to see a Golden Budda or Bar or even a cold steel Samuri sword.Out of 16 pages I've looked at the 1st and last three,lots of informative yakin but hey show me the goods.

Gunto type 32 with matching serial numbers.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

IS THERE ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO WRITE JAPANESE HERE?
We do not know how to write japanese messages ...pls. help me by posting some sample of leaflets....i will print and xerox it and scattered in the area...hoping it would be seen and read by our suspected Japanese straggler....

Remember...If indeed this hermit man is a real Japanese straggler...ITS WOULD SURELY SHOCK THE WORLD...he could be the most trusted and loyal soldier... guarding his military post for the last 60 years?....

Since you don't Live in the U.S. I won't Preach to
you on what you do in your own Country.

It is Rather Simple GBoy.

Go here.

http://www.freetranslation.com/

Type your Message in English.

Choose English to Japanese.

& FREE TRANSLATION

Copy the Translation.

& Print it out on your Printer.

Gunto type 32 with matching serial numbers.

AuDuck great find ! Very Nice !

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Goldlilly,

"Gboy get real ... who do you think you are ... the police ?
WE WILL TRAP HIM BY GIVING SOME BAIT
so that he will be convince to surrender to us
Go sell that one to reich bussier and the CIA
G ... you try have us all believe that youre out in the field chasing caves, bombers and hermits etc. when your multiple personas have all been traced to Metro Manila"

What are you talking about?...I THINK YOU OVER REACTED....
Do you think am in the field? OF COURSE NOT, AM IN METRO MANILA (there are no INTERNET IN THE MOUNTAINS !!)....I choosed to be assigned here... to raise funds, monitor weather satellite, update our investors, post some info in forums....My TH partners CLIFFand BUDZ and other native assets are THE ONES ON THE FIELD SIMPLY BCOZ OUR BUDGET IS LIMITED....all of us can't go there and look for treasure....somebody have to be left behind and do some research stuff...we call it...DIVISION OF WORK OR LABOR... ....do you have problem with our division of work?



CLIFF who is in Sierra is giving me some update thru celfon, regarding the new development in the area....like his native asset, monitored a fair skinned old hermit man and very elusive near our suspectedtreasure areas...AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR LOGICALEXPLANATION?...natural, we will suspect it to be a Japs Straggler...QUESTION? whats wrong if we assume or suspect thats he might be a japs straggler?...aber...HELLO? ITS JUST OUR SUSPICION...he was assigned also to relocate Japs bombers, caves and etc...

I choose the word TRAP (not CATCH)...bcoz the suspected japs straggler are very elusive....anyway, our BAIT are Japanese leaflets and japs newspaper to convince him to surrender...AGAIN WHATS WRONG WITH THAT METHODS?....

BUDZ is the ones assigned regarding the Japs tombs and open caves....

DO I NEED TO ASK PERMISSION OR EXPLANATION FROM YOU IF I SHOULD BE IN THE FIELD OR NOT?... NO...You are NOT our funder in these treasure quest...I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN TO YOU EVERYTHING WHAT WE ARE DOING...okey?

IF AM NOT POSTING..FOR SEVERAL DAYS...AM IN THE FIELD,...IF AM POSTING AM HERE , I'M MONITORING EVERYTHING AND DO SOME TREASURE HOMEWORK IN M. MANILA....Thats our treasure hunting methods...
DO YOU HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT?


SWR,
Are you stupid, ignorant or what?....JAPS STRAGGLER ARE THE ONES WHO GUARDED THE TREASURE THATS WHY THEY SACRIFICE THEMSELVES AND LEFT BEHIND HERE IN P.I.. simply to guard their treasure hoard......thats why Japs straggler and yamashita treasure SHOULD BE ONE AND THE SAME THREAD...intiendes?

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Goldlilly,

What methods in catching these "suspected" japs staggler?...DO YOU EXPECT US TO TELL THESE INFO TO LOCAL AND CORRUPT POLITICIAN / POLICE...SO THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL GET THE TREASURE HOARD OF THESE SUSPECTED STARGGLER?....HELL NO !!
We are treasure hunters...we are the ones who sacrifice ourselves in the mountains, and if indeed he is orig japs straggler...we should be the ones who will benifit his hidden treasure...AS SIMPLE AS THAT...

Remember Lt. Onoda who surrenders to Pres. marcos in 19709's from Lubang island....who get his treasures?...MARCOS of course...we don't want that to happen again...it should be the treasure hunters who will get the treasures not the politician.
bY
If you don't like the word TRAP....DO YOU HAVE ANY CHEAP IDEA HOW TO CATCH THESE ARMED & ELUSIVE JAPS STAGGLER?...remember we do not have budget to have fantastic plan...

Jeff of Pa,
Thanks for info...I will try that...

 

[PINOY TH]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Goldlilly,

What methods in catching these "suspected" Japanese staggler?...DO YOU EXPECT US TO TELL THESE INFO TO LOCAL AND CORRUPT POLITICIAN / POLICE...SO THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL GET THE TREASURE HOARD OF THESE SUSPECTED STARGGLER?....HELL NO !!
We are treasure hunters...we are the ones who sacrifice ourselves in the mountains, and if indeed he is orig Japanese straggler...we should be the ones who will benifit his hidden treasure...AS SIMPLE AS THAT...

Remember Lt. Onoda who surrenders to Pres. marcos in 19709's from Lubang island....who get his treasures?...MARCOS of course...we don't want that to happen again...it should be the treasure hunters who will get the treasures not the politician.
bY
If you don't like the word TRAP....DO YOU HAVE ANY CHEAP IDEA HOW TO CATCH THESE ARMED & ELUSIVE Japanese STAGGLER?...remember we do not have budget to have fantastic plan...

Jeff of Pa,
Thanks for info...I will try that...

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

GBoy, Not trying to be rude.

IF This Japanese soldier were 15 in 1944

IF I did my Math right,
he would be 78 this year.

What was the Minumim Age for Japanese Soldiers ?
& the Year they were there ?

Just Food for Thought.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

SWR,

Nice try again...as usual your ignorance what really happened in Lt. Onoda surrender was based only in news done during Martial law days?....its like believing that during Martial law days NO human rights violation was violated according to news also...he,he,he...
OF COURSE, they have SECRET treasure agenda....and ONLY THE TOP BRASS of Marcos men knows about it....
Hellowww !! We are the ones who have extensive research in japs straggler and yamashita treasures...NOT YOU.....your facts is based only from newspaper accounts in internet while our facts...IS BASED ON ACTUAL INTERVIEW OF PEOPLE, WW2 JAPS/PHIL VETERANS on the field...

Ex: When Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami (grandfather of my bestfriend Cliff) came back to the Phils. in late 1960's...his priority is to monitor the Japs straggler in Mindanao...in 1976, they monitored and supervised at least 13 japanese straggler ( he even bring along his filipino grandson Cliff to visit the jungle areas hideaway)...some of japs straggler had already married natives...and what their purpose of staying in the Phil... even the when war is over?...TO GUARD SECRET BURIED TREASURES...as simple as that...
Meaning....WE DID NOT INVESTIGATE ONLY LT. ONODA CASE..BUT WE INVESTIGATE SEVERAL JAPS STRAGGLER AS WELL...
and how about you? where did you investigate your Japs straggler info?...only from INTERNET?...c'mon...grow up !!!

Jeff of Pa,
I have no idea what would be the age of these "suspected" japs straggler...I assumed it is in his late 80's or 90's...(by the way, in a jungle/remote barrio an 80 year old man, can still walk for several kilometers and can carry 5 gallon water container...meaning he is still strong...opposite of city old man who are weak at that age...)

By the way...the info we got is NOT yet 100% sure if it is indeed a japs straggler..... what our native asset said..."they spotted a fair skinned hermit/old man near our suspected japs treasure areas....the old man was elusive and doesn't wanted to mingle with people".....our team just suspected it to be a japs straggler bcoz, its very rare to have a fair skinned (usually dark brown), he is very old...and elusive to other people (an old filipino have no reason to be elusive to other native filipino...except if indeed he is a japs straggler...or plain crazy old man)...but seing a fair skinned old hermit man in the jungle...is indeed worth investigating....

"Your plan has all the markings of kidnapping, physical abuse and removing property you do not own. I do not understand how you can post to the world your criminal intent. I am sorry, what were those choices again."
Removing property that i doesn't own?....dingdong...hello?....if you are complaining about our treasure hunting activities....HE,HE,HE...AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING SALVAGING ARTIFACTS IN FLORIDA WATERS...you don't own it also don't you?

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jeff of Pa,
...ooopss sorry the last paragraph is actually intended for SWR...

SWR,
"Your plan has all the markings of kidnapping, physical abuse and removing property you do not own. I do not understand how you can post to the world your criminal intent. I am sorry, what were those choices again."
Removing property that i doesn't own?....dingdong...hello?....if you are complaining about our treasure hunting activities....HE,HE,HE...AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING SALVAGING ARTIFACTS IN FLORIDA WATERS...you don't own it also don't you?

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

SWR,

Here we go again...lecturing an ADULT BUT IGNORANT GUY about OUR OWN PHIL. HISTORY and AFFAIRS...He insist on his belief as if he is a filipino?...as if he knows everything here in Phil....just bcoz he is reading in INTERNET....

1) "I know exactly what happened in the case of Lt. Onoda, and so does the rest of the world. It is recorded History. I suggest that if you have evidence or proof that will prove History wrong, please present it to the proper authorities, so History books/chronicles/journals can be upgraded."

HELLO?..are you dumb or something?.....Do you really believe that each events should be exposed to the public and be written in history? Haven't you heard of the word.... SECRET OR CONFIDENTIAL FILES OR EVENTS that only the higher ups knows its true accounts, but still its part of history?
Some parts of history ARE BEST TO BE KEPT SECRET (not for public consumption) ...ex: thats why your Roswell UFO was famous for...and our yamashita treasure is famous for also ....BOTH ARE STILL WELL KEPT SECRET BUT STILL PART OF OUR HISTORY... INTIENDES?

2) " Evidently, your "extensive research" has been fruitless, and nonproductive. The facts you have presented here, on this forum, have only shown skewed beliefs and misuse/abuse of Real History "
....Thats according to YOU or ONLY on your own opinion...NOT THE OPINION OF OTHERS TREASURE HUNTERS WHO BELIEVE THE EXISTENCE OF YAMASHITA TREASURES...intiendes?

3) "There was no Japanese Major General named Inami Murakami in the late 1960s...nor in the 1950s or the 1940s. You also posted earlier that this nonexistent Japanese General was Richie's grandfather...now he is Cliff's grandfather. "

Its bcoz you lack the complete research and info....
Cliff and Richie is one and the same....I choose Cliff (the username of Richie in Ming the Mechanic) to rebutt or answer Goldlilly, bcoz ...Goldlilly knows that Cliff (richie ) is my partner in Sierra and he reads its post in Ming....my purpose of using Cliff to emphasize
Goldlilly that cliff is already in Sierra.
Of course you don't know Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami bcoz your an american...how you should know the affairs here...aber?....again by posting in Japs WW2 Officers...he,he,he...the old man was junior officer in WW2, he rose from the rank thru the years and retired as Maj. Gen. in 1960's....

INAMI SUNE MURAKAMI
Arrived in Mindanao, Phil. way back in 1915, work as technical Consultant of Furukawa Dev. Co., Ohta Dev. Co and other different logging and mining companies in Mindanao. He supervised the prewar construction of Japanese Underground Tunnel HQ. Married a filipina and stayed in Davao, and had a son Ricardo S. Guibelondo (Richie's father), Liason Officer of the Japanese Consulate in Davao City (1977 to 81) and Boarding/Security officer of Japanese Salvage team (1955-56) salvaging WW2 shipwrecks in Davao gulf. Murakami died in Aug. 1977, personally cremated by Ricardo. One time the old man instructed Ricardo (his son) and Richie (his grandson) to relocate the comrades of Murakami still in the mountains of Mt. Apo, Mt. Matutum. Murakami died as 2 star general in japanese Imperial Army...

The late Maj. Gen. Murakami opened and constructed the road connecting from Masugpo (now Tagum City) to Mawab, nabunturan, Monkayo, Camp[ostela Valley now part of COMVAL province formerly Davao del Norte...
Maj. Gen. Murakami also help open the mining areas of Mt. Diwalwal, Monte Alto, Araibo, Maragusan valley and lost Horizon Tunnel.

The late Maj. Gen. Inami Murakami, Chief of the Japanese Imperial Forces, Civilan Pacification Campaign for Mindanao. He was one of the responsible in the burials , hiding, entombement and sinking ...of big volume treasures in land and sea from 1942-45. Richie can't recover his grandfather treasures simply bcoz its buried by a general...with thousand troops/workers...A small rag tag team of treasure hunters can't recover treasure buried by thousand workers/soldiers under supervision of a General...

The late gen. was japanese advance party (military spy) came here as an ordinary engineer, married a filipina and suddenly wear a military uniform when war started....rest is history...

4) "they were guarding a "treasure", they are a sentinel, and not a straggler. "

In treasure hunters lingo....We call a WW2 japanase soldier who stays behind...a japs straggler.. do you have a problem with that?

5) "Yes, when you bait someone into leaving their property, hold them against their will and then loot their premises...it is a criminal offence"

.....We are NOT holding against his will...WE ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE HIM TO SURRENDER by spreading lots of leaflets written in japanese.....and once he read it, he MAY talked to our native assets....once convinced to go back to japan.....negotiate his treasure hoard to be left to us... ....AND THATS NOT A CRIMINAL OFFENCE IN OUR COUNTRY...intiendes?

6) " I do not salvage artifacts in Florida Waters."
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU....you salvage any valuable items...even at sea...

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

People , Please Refrain from Using the Word "Ignorant"
& other Degrading Words

Even though it just means Misinformed, It also
has Rude connotations.

I would also Suggest the Accusations against each others
Professionalism & Knowledge Stop Also.
this is Still GBoys Thread, to Share his Experiences,
Progress, & Ask pertinent Questions.

Thank you.
Jeff

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jeff of Pa,
As a referre in this thread...ok I will no longer use the word...IGNORANT...maybe INNOCENT is fine with you?

Goldlilly,
Sorry, if I answer your harshly. let it be known that even if I'm in M. Manila, my TH friends/partners still continues our treasure quest in the countryside even at shoe string budget. To minimize the cost of exploration...thats why its only once in awhile I join my team in the field bcoz it would be very expensive if all of us will be exploring.

I know you HATE so much with US Military. But I have no quarrel with US ( I have lots of relatives there)...if they could help us somehow...our team won't mind if we can give them one or two sites....so that when we have LOTS OF LOGISTICS, we can now operate our other several sites...

Assuming it is indeed a Japs straggler (he maybe also just ordinary old filipino hermit).....we are just giving or offering him an alternative or chance to be returned to Japan. Am sure living in his own country, sorrounded by his old friends and luxury specially at his old age, is more comfortable and peacefull than living in remote harsh jungle...and of course....we wanted to ask his hidden treasure as bonus for our efforts...