2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[Jef of PI]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jeff of PA and Zobex,

Keep your cool guys... maybe Zobex just failed to send his post and didn't know it.

Gboy,

Where do you think can we buy a borehole drill, can it bore a hole as deep as Ten Meters on a hard cement? It is just that we have our site on a very remote place on top of a mountain.

 

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[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jeff of PA and Zobex,

Keep your cool guys... maybe Zobex just failed to send his post and didn't know it.

Jef, this has been one of the most intresting threads here
in my opinion. I'v given you all total respect for years.
I expect the same in return.

which at this point means an Honest, Believable apology
from him.
No smart remarks added.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jef of PI,
Go to Binondo...or look for PLDT tel directory...regarding Portable Water Drill or mining drill...talk to the store owner or sales personel and tell them your eqp't requirement, they may help you more than... I do...

 

[Jef of PI]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Thanks Gboy for the info. We'll do that. Maybe what we need is a portable mining drill. We just can't bring our detecting device on the site because the way going up there is too dangerous, and since that we cannot confirm if there really was a cache inside the cement/rock then we really just have to break it just that. If we can find a borehole drill that can penetrate as deep as 10 meters on a hard cement then thats the best thing to use to confirm if there really was something precious inside, well yeah a yellow metal glittering on the tip of the drill bit? Bingo.

Hey Zobex, maybe it's now time you have to apologize to Jeff. About your claim of being the closest person related to the Roxas family... i think i have seen the son of Roxas somewhere in mountain province, bontoc. Maybe, instead of spending your money after the Roxas gold, why not just support and finance the group of Roxas son? He's got still some of the treasure secrets his father has. I think the Roxas Buddha is bronze.

 

[ssrjunkie]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jef of PI,

Aside from the portable driller it would be best that you drive a core drill to get samples.

Try to ask if there's a distributor for Hydra Drill of deeprock you can check it at www.deeprock.com

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

jeff ... we cannot afford to lose Zobex ...

And he Knows what to do
in his next post.
Giving Me & everyone else Respect,
receives Respect.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

ssjunkie/jef of PI,

HYDRA DRILL is not good enough...its only good for soil but if it hit solid rock it can't penetrate bcoz its design is very light....the better design is PORTADRILLMINI (look it on google) bcoz it had weights on top of the drill and can penetrate much better on rocks bcoz of its heavy weight/load.
Although these eqp't is very expensive and way beyond Filipino treasure hunter budget...anybody can easily modify or improvise a portable water drill using local materials...

 

[GPR]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

where is my post jeff?
darn this is getting personal.......nobody is posting.............scared to be deleted.....a big waist of time......close this forum if you keep on deleting messages....whats is the point of having a forum anyway.... hehe.....

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

where is my post jeff?
darn this is getting personal.......nobody is posting.............scared to be deleted.....a big waist of time......close this forum if you keep on deleting messages....whats is the point of having a forum anyway.... hehe.....

What Post ?

Was it to Someone who Dosn't Come here any More ?

 

[GPR]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

thanks for not deleting Jeff......i gonna miss this thread if the whole thread will be deleted.....lets get in to treasures guys......lets get back into business......

 

[kaloy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Hi to all Pros: Let's get back to business.

What is the best way (excluding the use of GPR) to detect 6 12-kilo gold bars 6ft deep? The soil type is sandy loam.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Kaloy,

6 pcs. 12 kg au bars? at 6 ft deep? Try electromagnetics (geo eqp't) or pulse detector with big square coil...

 

[takara13103]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

kaloy,

try using the good old shovel. 6 ft wont hurt you.

 

[kaloy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

The reference tree in this project was cut down many years ago, even its roots was nowhere to found. If this tree is still standing, 6 ft is not a problem since we could pinpoint exactly the location of the give-away.

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Starsplitter,

In the countryside, rumor of tunnel is easily recognizable and remembered by old folks....however, in the city area specially metro manila..even if yhou know that there is tunnel underneath the city, you can't do anything about it bcoz most often a big building has built on top of it, and you can't do anything....will you let a building owner demolish their entire bldg simply bcoz there is a tunnel underneath...people will just laugh at you.

Beside WW2 tunnel is not a guarantee for treasure...there are several thousand of Japs tunnel and bunkers all over the countryside used as their storage and other military uses (not necessarilly treasure chamber)...looking for tunnel with treasure is very difficult and tedious work....oks?

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Goldlilly,

Hey man...you exposed me in Ming that I surface here...am supposed to be "out of sight" while undergoing some confidential treasure projects....

 

[solution]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Hi Pips, let me first one to great you Hapi Bday Philippines

Mabuhay ang Malayang Kayumangi

CHY

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Gentlemen,

We form some native assets in the fields to get us some treasure tips...however instead of finding treasure site they told us that they accidentally found a cave with almost 50 Japanese skeletons with military artifacts, dogtags, helmets, samurais, etc.
These Japs graveyard site is in jungle area very far from us, several days of hiking...to explore these, needs budget and sacrifice for our team...

My questions are:
1) Since we will be investing time, money and effort in relocating/documenting these japs graveyard...do you think we will make money out of these Japs graveyard?
2) Do you think the japanese gov't will give us some sort of "reward" by finding their lost WW2 heroes?
3) Is it possible to retraced the relatives of the "japs dogtags"..so that we may be given monetary reward...assuming their children/grandchildren are rich?...How can we traced the names/relatives thru dogtags...is there any website wherein we just encode the dogtag serial number?
4) Since we are treasure hunter NOT archeologist or forensics...What is the proper way in handling the skeletons...am afraid we may be able to disarrange the dogtags from the bones..bcoz we are planing to document each skeletons with its dogtag and military stuff...
5) Based on our experience, The Japanese Embassy in Manila needs proof of japs graveyard...meaning we are on our own to investigate first ...and maybe give them sone proof later (video/picture)...
6) Our assets was hounted while inside the cave with marching ghost apparations and moaning sounds...what prayers and rituals do we give...so that we can work and document these skeletons properly...we won't work while be

In 1990's, somewhere in Mindanao...a Japanese bones with dogtag and samurai was returned to Japan. 5 rich relatives of the dead japanese soldier came here and pay homage and respect to the bones and give the pointer some monetary reward. The japanese embassy gave also 5 working visas to the pointer and his family. Since we have here est. to be 50 japs soldiers skeletons. Is it possible we will be given some sort of reward also...HOW?
Since we can't find gold bar yet...is it possible the japs bones can be rewarding?

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

SWR,
" How about starting a new thread. This new venture has nothing to do with the Yamashi.ta Legend, and will more than likely be deleted due to the subject matter."

The area is well known Japanese camp and treasure sites, in fact in 1970's...a battalion of soldiers stationed here by Marcos just to recover Yamashita treasure and they succeeded probably recovered several hundred tons....these secret cave was not touched and discovered by Marcos soldiers...until lately...

" I don't think making a profit off of dead soldiers will be a very good topic. "
Its true its improper to make profit out of these dead heroes...unfortunately we have no choice...bcoz NOBODY give us financial help...we owe some financiL debt to our friends just to prolong and continue our exploration and relocating these Japanese graveyard, how we gonna repay our friends if we will not ask some sort of reward....
Do you expect us to give these info to japanese for free...while we the explorers will be indebted forever?...I don't think thats a good idea....
If we are a well budgeted explorers like Nat'l Geographic or Discovery team...we will give it for free...but for us small time explorers who borrowed money for every exploration...we need some sort of reward to repay our expenses...

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

" I don't think making a profit off of dead soldiers will be a very good topic. "
Its true its improper to make profit out of these dead heroes...unfortunately we have no choice...bcoz NOBODY give us financial help...we owe some financiL debt to our friends just to prolong and continue our exploration and relocating these Japanese graveyard, how we gonna repay our friends if we will not ask some sort of reward....
Do you expect us to give these info to japanese for free...while we the explorers will be indebted forever?...I don't think thats a good idea....
If we are a well budgeted explorers like Nat'l Geographic or Discovery team...we will give it for free...but for us small time explorers who borrowed money for every exploration...we need some sort of reward to repay our expenses...

What you are proposing is called extortion. The deceased Japanese soldiers already belong to Japan. You can't "sell" something you don't rightfully own.

I will contact the Embassy of Japan in the Philippines to confirm this, and provide them with a link to this thread.

I almost Responded the Exact same way GBoy.

SWR is corret, This is Extortion.

I almost deleted this whole Discussion,
but I'm gald I didn't as this had to be said.

I don't know about you, However,

We are Treasure Hunters not Mercenaries.

It is things like this that make people cringe when they
hear the words treasure hunters.

If you knew me, you would realize
I'm all about making Governments
Put out, or stay out of our Buisness,
But
Please Reconsider.

If you turn them over & your Government gets Compensated,
and dosn't share with you, That would be wrong in my opinion.

but insisting on personal compensation up front,
after the find is just wrong.

If I found a Body or Cemetery in the woods,
I wouldn't go to town & tell someone to pay me to show
them where it is.