2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[boylara]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

hello sandugo thanks for the info, well you can post you pictures here...ok the actual location of that site is found between the boundary of Enrile-Cagayan, Sta. maria-Isabela and Rizal-Kalinga, if hat your location then you might be right otherwise, your talking about other location, right now, theres an on going digging, beside an old balete treer which is aproximately around 300 meters from the project site...hehehehehehe

 

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[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Jonesindy,

I hope your treasure site is just buried by squad or platoon size...NOT Imperial site, so that it would be easier.

However, if your treasure site is Imperial size...FORGET IT...YOU CAN'T DO IT.
These is the most COMMON mistake of amateur treasure hunter...due to lack of treasure research/knowldge, when they stumbled Imperial treasure site....they are happy bcoz ...hey... this is Imperial treasure site or big volume, thats why they are excited to operate...WRONG MOVE !!

Imperial treasure sites are big volume treasure sites built by HUNDREDS OR THOUSAND OF MEN...and the diggers or treasure hunter are just less than 10...common...make my day, you are joking right?

Its like a 20 km MRT built by thousand men...and you have 10 treasure hunters trying to demolish the whole MRT structures...he,he,he..WOW....

C'mon...the Japs invade countries for that Imperial treasures....do you think they buried it easily...c'mon...

The Imperial treasure usually built concrete fortified structures underground...multiple level of 10 foot concrete barriers, several bombs, gas chambers ...etc. If you have Imperial treasure map, $10 million dollars budget, mining technology...and old japs veterans generals as your consultant...you have a chance like Marcos did.

But if you have a rag tag team treasure hunting team and targeting Imperial treasure...you are like an ant trying to bully an elephant... .....and this is the MOST COMMON MISTAKE OF FOPRIEGN OR FILIPINO TREASURE HUNTERS....TRYING TO UNDERESTIMATE THE JAPS BURIED IMPERIAL TREASURES or probably due to lack of treasure research....c'mom invading countries is very difficult enough and steal their treasures...do you think they will bury it easily...tsk,tsk,tsk....USE YOUR COMMON SENSE....

These is just my ONE CENT OPINION, walang personalan...OKS?

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

HMMMMM, sounds familiar.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[gboy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Zobex,

Hhhhmmm....losing precious lives in treasure hunting is indeed very unfortunate specially if you hit the deadly traps....Why the heck go for those deadly buried treasures. if there are other treasure sites just scattered around the countryside that NO NEED to dig.....ex: Marcos reburried sites, open cave/tunnels, above ground vault, crashed japs planes, concrete vault in waterfalls lagoon, underwater boxes or budhas...etc...the only problem , these sites are in the jungle areas.

You only need extensive treasure reasearch to gather those treasure sites information...and if you want shortcut...SECRET !!

 

[jonesindy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Mr. Zobex,

Thanks for the reply. Everything you said, I take in deep interest. there were no steel bars in the concrete. the hard binder look more like iron slags (the waste in steel making).

Mr. Gboy,

Thanks too for your reply to my post. I agree, our rag tag team must have demolished the equivalent of 1-kilometer MRT already. That makes a reminder of 9kilometers more. Indeed, there is much chalenge ahead!!!

Thanks,

Jonesindy

 

[jonesindy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Zobex,

I am referring to the same site since I joined this forum. it's now 18 meters underground. Two sets of signs are all over the place, consisting of carve stone/concrete. In the last phase of work, I spent more than 50 back-hoe days to hack the bunker. It seems it "much deeper". I am about to call it quits, unless there is a technology that could "picture" what is beneath the structure. it is very much similar to the pictures posted by "Garry" from Mindanao. Imagine, a similar structure, covering about 400sqm. I have excavated the whole thing by about 20meters deep, and still there is more concrete.

Jonesindy

 

[dred747]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Here's what we found so far. Lots of relics, bones, dog tags, belt buckles, teeth, etc. But no treasure so far. Must be around 150 dog tags there. Any suggestions?

 

[dred747]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

There were no weapons of any kind. Just some sort of 'bandana' but oddly enough no skulls. Though there are flat bones that I think would qualify for skull bone fragments or hip bones fragments. The dog tags and all the other relics were all mixed together barring anybody from really identifying which bone belonged to which dog tag.

There were bullets strewn all over the place but I don't know if they're cal .30 or .45. We have removed all the items now from the 2 cave systems where it came from for proper repatriation to place of origin. The items are all in clean decent storage boxes to give due respect to the dead.

Apparently their embassy is slow in mobilizing resources for something like this. Not a priority for them.

 

[GEO PROFILER]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

JONESINDY,

There is indeed a technology that can give you an accurate "picture" of the subsurface of areas of interest. This is referred to or known as GEOPHYSICAL SURVEY & PROFILING , This is a method for scientific data gathering that is used for mineral prospecting , hydrogeological mapping, archeology and other engineering procedures which require a profile of the subsurface.

You can contact us or PM us for details , Pls refer to our postings on the thread " Need Equipment for cache hunting in the phils." , for the conductance of such an undertaking.

GEO PROFILER

 

[GEO PROFILER]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

ZOBEX

Yes. GEOPHYSICAL SURVEY & PROFILING is a field of work, There is a number of "techniques" and methods one can employ depending on the work at hand and the parameters of the survey. In our work we always use resistivity trenching and gradiometry as both has a high degree of accuracy , a very acceptable degree of sensitivity and flexible data gathering protocol.

I have been reading posts in this forum and felt that a technical approach will do a lot of help in saving time, effort, money and even precious lives in the pursuance of this endeavor. A good Geo survey and profile will give an accurate "picture" of what to expect and how to proceed in retrieval operations.

GEO PROFILER

 

[ding]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

May I ask fellow THs about your idea of 2 frog shaped stones lying on top of each other and connected to each other by a steel rod "na parang tinuhog in Tagalog." This was found in about 3 feet below the surface. Also, any idea you may have about a triangle with spokes or rays from all of its 3 sides, which was drawn on a map found in a creak at the foot of a mountain?


This is the illustration I can make so far of two frog shaped markers lying on top of each other dug in about 3 feet deep and attached by a steel rod. The map mentioned above has no relation with these frog markers. The lower stone is bigger than the upper stone.

Turtle 1 (smaller)
Turtle 2 (bigger)

 

[jonesindy]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Zobex and fellow TH,

my post yesterday did not get through because the photo i attached was "too big". anyway, thanks for the info on geoprofiling to all. i already contacted many technology suppliers before i went through my last phase of work. however, i don't think any of them will work any better than the backhoe on a per dollar cost basis. so far all the GRP-related technologies are inconclusive. none will guarantee me any result. by the way i have access to oil and mineral exploration technology too and not a newbie in the field.

i could best describe my site as a mountain of cement/boulders/huge rocks buried under a creek. the covering is about two meters of top soil. there is a tunnel (without surface entrace) connected, but blocked by about 10 meter thick wall of huge rocks at the tunnel's mouth, located maybe 18 meters deep. the water table in the area starts at about 8 meters. I think the water table in the place in the 1940s must be much higher due to good forest cover by then. i have posted long ago some "pointers " found in the place.


Jonesindy

 

[dred747]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Hey guys. I don't know if this also happens to you but when I scroll down this thread from the latest posting I always get 'doubling' of line texts. The lines get distorted and so do the pictures. This does not happen to other threads just this Yam thread.

Do you think this phenomenon is related to the volume of posts on this thread or do you think its because I'm using a Mac?

Anyway, I've gotten through to a Japanese NGO that repatriates relics like what we found. They are especially focused on dog tags. I heard they're pretty good at spotting the real ones from the fabricated ones. Their group is coming in sometime July. So I'll keep you posted what transpires.

dred

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Do you think this phenomenon is related to the volume of posts on this thread or do you think its because I'm using a Mac?



dred

I'm not using a Mac, But I get it to.
It is the Volume of posts & Especially the Pictures.
This is a Very Popular thread.

 

[greenapple]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

gboy,
just a confirmation regarding your treasure chamber picture im posting one that belongs to nazi germany that was recovered by uncle joe,experts calculate that there is still more than 70billion pound worth of valuables unaccounted for.
hope this will give some fellow treasure hunters little ideas of what a treasure chamber may have looked like.

greenapple

 

[greenapple]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

to all,
can any th experts verify if this is just a natural occurence or a possible Japanese marker?i found this marker about two km west of a sharp pointed hill where an old suspected Japanese straggler lives.
any info will be highly appreciated.

greenapple

 

[greenapple]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

some more pics

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

OHIO Green: Unfortunately natural. Check the contact areas inside of the yellow circles as an example. No Japanese could match those, possibly the Incas who had learned how to soften silica, , but not the Japanese. The other markers are very interesting.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[dindo_bayaua]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Greenapple, that back written tatoo is somewhat similar to the drawing leftbehind by the old jap who retrieved something from a former flagpole site, in a place called "landing" last year. They left behind rotten wooden boxes inside the hole. The shallow tunnel was just ontop of the flagpole. IF IT WAS THE SAME MARKER (I cannot exactly remember the detailed sketch since it was kept as a souvenir by the Aurora group), then it is safe to say that there are three chambers for the items and one chamber for the gas trap. Beware of the stone covered chamber IF IT WAS THE SAME MARKER.

 

[dred747]

Re: 2007 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Hahaha. You're so funny River Diver. Good thing all of us take you seriously in this forum. Otherwise we'd all be searching for something the Japanese never left behind and something the Americans occupation forces did steal after the war.