Why skeptics doesnt show proof?

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

~SWR~

Unless, of course....there is a skeptic watching :::shudders::: or there are large sums of money saying you can't validate your claim.

Hey LT..You ever go hunting with someone with brown eyes ?

 

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[fenixdigger]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Got 2 w/brown, 2 w/blue, 1 green, 1 hazel,

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Nothing to say about the other things Hmmmm It figures. Same ol inability to answer simple questions.
The proof I have furnished was good enough for anyone without those little ttttticks you have. So rest assured your little squirrel nest of certainty is safe until J Christ goes with one of us, but I doubt he gives a sh#t what you think either.
So continue your attacks, makes the newbies contact us P/M and email where we can get serious. Good job They get the real info can you get the chance to show your ignorance. Win Win

Whet about that ring and the Tic-Tacs. Still in the dark

 

[EE THr]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

The topic title is "Why Skeptics Don't Show Proof?"

You have it backwards, artie. It's up to you to show proof. (Duh.)


Besides, a skeptic is someone who doubts something. People who know that LRLs don't add anything to a person's dowsing ability (or non-ability), are not "skeptical" of it, they just know it's baloney!

If you didn't brag about your LRLs every single day, then people probably wouldn't pay much attention to your BS. But no, you need to go on and on, every day, with multiple posts of statements which you refuse to back up with any kind of real proof. I don't know of any other circumstances where people do that.

And what is worse, when asked for simple proof, which you should be able to easily provide, you turn to insulting people instead.

We all know that you have a camcorder, and know how to use it. And we've all seen you brag about what a great treasure hunter you are, and that you go on lots of treasure hunts regularly. But when asked to merely bring along your video camera and record you actually locating and digging in undisturbed ground, any kind of treasure or valuables, you refuse.

Then you say that you don't need to prove anything, that you don't care if people believe you or not. Well, if that were true, you wouldn't get so mad, and insult people who simple ask for easily obtainable proof!

You can't seem to make up your mind if you care if you're believed or not!

So, which is it?

Oh, yeah; I forgot that you also just ignore any questions which are to the point, and instead change the subject to ad hominem attacks. So I don't expect that you will be answering this simple question about a most apparent fact, will you?

Well, don't worry, because I can just keep asking it. I can quote it over and over again, until you must answer it.






Big Four Proofs of LRLs Fraud

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

~SWR~

I made my text bold just in case you are having problems reading it, as you don't seem to be understanding....and continue to embarrass yourself with irrational drivel about other things

Why should he? Oh I see..Because you do not understand what we are talking about…

 

[EE THr]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Bk from Tucson, I see that I missed quite a few insults, which are a losing equation in any event. While you aren't 'up to Judy's class' EE, you are far above ls. ted, pronghorns, and sera's class, no more insults if you wish to keep my respect for you, which you earned in other posts...

Stick to electronics, or philosophy.

Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

Excuuuuuuuuse me?

Show me a post where I insulted anybody. Well, one that's not a reply to their insults.

I'm not here to insult anyone. My position on LRLs is totally clear, and totally fair. For that, certain LRL proponents continue to insult me, and anyone who doubts their claims; rather than simply responding with rational answers. That has been proven time and time again.

If you consider pointing out the truth, as actually shown in someone's posts, or over several of their posts, to be an insult; then you will just have to disrespect me.








Big Four Proofs of LRLs Fraud

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Evening PBSRW#1: As for swr and his 'ignore', that is his favorite escape maneuver when he has no further resources or is unable to answer embarrassing questions. Unfortunately he just has to respond every so often, ego, besides, He simply cannot keep you on ignore, his curiosity about what you may be saying about him will not let him rest.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. I notice that his thread " Virus alert" now has 10 posts, unfortunately all his. hmmmm

 

[EE THr]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

RDT---

It looks like you and SWR have a war going on between you.

Is there some kind of battle between you and I, that I'm not aware of?

 

[Diohuni]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

A simple answer to a simple question

Skeptics do not have to show proof.

The person/people making the claims for LRL have to show the proof.

That's how science works. It is very simple isn't it?

You claim. You show the proof. You win.

You claim. You fail to show the proof. You lose. Easy.

Skeptics simply ask for the proof.

The proof would be in properly controlled (i.e. no chance of cheating), double blind tests.

If anyone can show me replicable, positive test results then I will become an instant convert to dowsing.

That is the definition of what a skeptic is and does.

So, for the squillionth time, show us the evidence.

Anecdotal personal testimony does not count as evidence!

And, just exactly how rich are the users of these miraculous devices?

 

[aarthrj3811]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

~Diohuni~

simple answer to a simple question
Skeptics do not have to show proof.
The person/people making the claims for LRL have to show the proof.
That's how science works. It is very simple isn't it?
You claim. You show the proof. You win.
You claim. You fail to show the proof. You lose. Easy.
Skeptics simply ask for the proof.he proof would be in properly controlled (i.e. no chance of cheating), double blind tests.
If anyone can show me replicable, positive test results then I will become an instant convert to dowsing.
That is the definition of what a skeptic is and does.
So, for the squillionth time, show us the evidence.
Anecdotal personal testimony does not count as evidence!
And, just exactly how rich are the users of these miraculous devices?

Darn..I learn something new every day…That “Skeptics Bible’ sure has some real truths in it…Art

 

[Diohuni]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

So, now you understand the scientific method, are we going to get any of that evidence or just the same old diversionary tactics, lies and bs?

Sorry folks, the LRL defender army isn't as big or powerful as ours.

We got General al Jabiri arrested for the ADE651 corruption in Iraq.

We got James McCormick arrested.

We got the Thai Government to carry out proper tests on a number of these frauds (GT200, Alpha 6, HEDD1). Guess what, they always fail.

We have flooded the internet with anti- information.

The fraudsters never, ever provide any evidence. Or do you want to tell us what the protocols used for the so called Chemir lab tests was Chuck?

The game is over really. Just a bit more work and Chuck and his mob will be finsihed. Now, where's the next lot to be done?

bring 'em on!

P.S. Chuck and his associates have an open invitation to sue me for calling them frauds, liars and cheats.

We will bring down H3Tec. That is a promise and not a threat.

 

[LM]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

So, now you understand the scientific method, are we going to get any of that evidence or just the same old diversionary tactics, lies and bs?

Sorry folks, the LRL defender army isn't as big or powerful as ours.

We got General al Jabiri arrested for the ADE651 corruption in Iraq.

We got James McCormick arrested.

We got the Thai Government to carry out proper tests on a number of these frauds (GT200, Alpha 6, HEDD1). Guess what, they always fail.

We have flooded the internet with anti- information.

The fraudsters never, ever provide any evidence. Or do you want to tell us what the protocols used for the so called Chemir lab tests was Chuck?

The game is over really. Just a bit more work and Chuck and his mob will be finsihed. Now, where's the next lot to be done?

bring 'em on!

P.S. Chuck and his associates have an open invitation to sue me for calling them frauds, liars and cheats.

We will bring down H3Tec. That is a promise and not a threat.

Amigo, I have no idea who you are, but we're brothers from another mother.
I too am enormously offended by what these people are trying to do. If you are the man responsible for bringing down the curtain on this fraud in the UK, consider this a sincere, open plea to carry your interests across the pond and help us to do the same here in the US.

It's one thing to sell these ridiculous 'devices' to kooks and quacks who want to take them afield and pretend they now have treasure hunting magic, but something else entirely to swindle servicemen in war zones- whose lives are on the line- to bet their ass on this sort of thing, not knowing any better.

In the case of the former, I don't care what happens to fools or their money, but try to foist this nonsense onto our allied servicemen and I want to see someone land in prison.

 

[Diohuni]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Amigo, I have no idea who you are, but we're brothers from another mother.
I too am enormously offended by what these people are trying to do. If you were the man behind bringing down the curtain on this fraud in the UK, consider this a sincere plea to bring your interests across the pond and help us to do the same here in the US.

It's one thing to sell these ridiculous 'devices' to kooks and fools, but something else entirely to swindle servicemen whose lives are on the line and may potentially bet their ass on this sort of thing, not knowing any better.

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Hi, doing what we can from here, but you guys need to start kicking up a bigger fuss. Too many prepared to sit back and debate on forums, or take a relativist "Each to their own" position.

Happy to make suggestions for actions for anyone interested but please PM me so we don't let the fraudsters know where we are going to be next!

Happy to help anyway possible. Just let's have some more doing.

All best,

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

WOW !!! I am humbled to be in the presence of such greatness !!! No wonder The poor little LRL users never had a chance. I shall proceed to chisel your names into the Great wall of the PROTECTORS of the REALM.

All of humanity is in your debt. How can we repay you?

I know,,, we will all laugh at you as often as possible. And hope you will all seek treatment, I recommend the electric route. But that's just me.

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Still can't answer those 2 simple questions? I've got an idea. Just avoid them and put out a bunch of the same drivel you have been using for years. Surely that will show them. Good job

 

[fenixdigger]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

2 little questions. My, My.Scary isn't it.

 

[EE THr]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

In reference to the topic title---

Skeptics don't need to show proof. The burden of proof is on the claimant.

If you makes da claims, you gotsta shows da proof!

So, where is it? I mean real proof? With all the supposed treasure hunts the LRLrs do, it would be very easy to take a camcorder along and show a real dig in undisturbed ground, right?






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[GuyinWH]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

Geeze swr: I didn't realize that you were such a fan of mine, gosh thanks, blushing, but you must have missed MENSA & my living off of the Yucatan / Quintana Roo jungles for 6 months looking for Mayan ruins.

Or the three day siege up at the Colorados mine by Mexican bandits, or the other encounter with three other bandits in the barranca of the Rio Yaqui.

Or my living with the Yaqui's for 5 years studying them, their culture, legends, and looking of treasures , or the Cannibal feast in which I was the guest of honor, my beating the Mexican national pistol champion.

Did I ever tell you of some 10 years of intensive para normal investigations? Or my spending two weeks alone in the Forbidden City in old Peking, or walking on the great wall? My intimate relationship with Tony Brovchenko, a white Russian nightclub singer in the night club in Tsingtao? sigh.

Or, or, or,or, ah shucks I hate to go on for another couple of pages, it embarrasses me, but I also solved the missing Zimmerman gold shipment, remember?? .

Don Jose de La Mancha (el shy retiring Saint in the cave at the end of the trail)

p.s. EE, It might have a bit to do with it when he called me a liar when I submitted a photograph that he requested.

 

[EE THr]

Re: Why skeptics doesn't show proof?

RDT---

Bk from Tucson, I see that I missed quite a few insults, which are a losing equation in any event. While you aren't 'up to Judy's class' EE, you are far above ls. ted, pronghorns, and sera's class, no more insults if you wish to keep my respect for you, which you earned in other posts...

Stick to electronics, or philosophy.

Don Jose de La Mancha

RDT---

Excuuuuuuuuse me?

Show me a post where I insulted anybody. Well, one that's not a reply to their insults.

I'm not here to insult anyone. My position on LRLs is totally clear, and totally fair. For that, certain LRL proponents continue to insult me, and anyone who doubts their claims; rather than simply responding with rational answers. That has been proven time and time again.

If you consider pointing out the truth, as actually shown in someone's posts, or over several of their posts, to be an insult; then you will just have to disrespect me.

RDT---

Is there some kind of battle between you and I, that I'm not aware of?

EE, It might have a bit to do with it when he called me a liar when I submitted a photograph that he requested.

Pardon me, but---HUH?







Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?