When Ordinary Science Fails to Explain

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aarthrj3811 said:
~werleibr~
No you have not Art. You have not posted a video in which you start off with just your wife in the back yard hiding the coin under the eggs, knocking on the door, and you go find what egg it is under, all uninterupted. You have only provided video on you knowing where a target is. And Had my dang computer not crashed I found some good evidence to show you that you move your hand to make the Rangertell point. For those that want to go watch his video. The antenna drops a good 3 degrees from perpendicular to the ground when it moves. also the shadow on your fingers change.


Gee werleibr...the movies is there for every one to view....There is a place where you can clearly see that my hand did not move...There is also places where you can see the angle of the antenna but no swing...at the end of the movie the antenna swung but I had already found and recovered the silver dollar.
And no there will be no movie of me and my wife as she is not available..
Don’t trip on your dogs leash when you are out today...Art


Sigh Art, Sigh.... Sorry that your wife is no longer living, but you could get you child (if you have any, I do not know), or a friend to do this. You can make it work. Also.. Since my computer did crash and you want to do the picture thing.. Then sure thing we will do it.
 

Here are 3 pictures from one of your movies Art. As you can see in the first picture. The rangertel is not perpendicular to the ground so will there for turn. I used a T to represent perpendicular. Don't think the T is perpendicular? Use the deck in the background as your reference. In Pictures 2 and 3 are a before and after of the rangertell moving. If you look at you had you can tell you have moved just your hand. The shadows on your fingures give away that they were turned to make the rangertel move.
 

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You are right. Something is wrong. I see it too. According to the picture & shadows He tilted his hand downward a bit, and turned his wrist to the right which should have pointed the rod to the right, not the left. humble
 

humble said:
You are right. Something is wrong. I see it too. According to the picture & shadows He tilted his hand downward a bit, and turned his wrist to the right which should have pointed the rod to the right, not the left. humble

He acutally turned is wrist to the left. That is how there are shadows. Sun is blocked by his jacket. Had he turned his wrist to the right there would be no shadows as the sun is behind Art. Turning anything to the right would expose it to the sun.
 

humble said:
Yep. Just opposite of what you say. humble

No.. His left would has shadows. His right has Sun. Think about it Humble. Stand with your back to the sun. Turn your hand to the left.. It enters the shadow of your body. Turn it to the right it enters the sun.
 

If LRLs could change the direction that they are pointing, on their own, then the following experiment would work---but it doesn't.

Clamp the bottom tip of the handle in a vise. To provide "bionic energy" power to it, grasp the remaining upper part of the handle with your hand. Next, move a target in front of it, within the specified range. The LRL pointer should follow the target.

But it won't.

Because the whole thing is a hoax.



Can You Scientifically Prove to the World That LRLs Work?
 

~EE~
Clamp the bottom tip of the handle in a vise. To provide "bionic energy" power to it, grasp the remaining upper part of the handle with your hand. Next, move a target in front of it, within the specified range. The LRL pointer should follow the target.
Would I not accomplish the same thing if I ran a wire from the handle to a metal stake in the ground?...Wow..EE’s are smart.Art
 

~werleibr~
Here are 3 pictures from one of your movies Art. As you can see in the first picture. The rangertel is not perpendicular to the ground so will there for turn. I used a T to represent perpendicular. Don't think the T is perpendicular? Use the deck in the background as your reference. In Pictures 2 and 3 are a before and after of the rangertell moving. If you look at you had you can tell you have moved just your hand. The shadows on your fingures give away that they were turned to make the rangertel move.
Gee werleibr..I thought we were talking about the movie about finding unknown objects as there is no hand movement in that movie..That was a movie to teach people about how I practice and to show skeptics what using a LRL can accomplish. I don’t worry about the angle of the antenna as it will still swing. I don’t know if the target force moved my hand or not as it does not matter. If the Ideomotor Response was the cause of the hand movement it makes no difference as I know I have a taught my hand how to react to a signal.
You should try it some time as the swings are still weird to me...Some times when using the same target the swing has so much force and the next time it s very weak. Some tell me that they can tell the size of the object by the force but I can not do that.
Yes I like my device as I can learn the depth, distance, if it is coins, bars or rings without walking five miles.. Art
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
Clamp the bottom tip of the handle in a vise. To provide "bionic energy" power to it, grasp the remaining upper part of the handle with your hand. Next, move a target in front of it, within the specified range. The LRL pointer should follow the target.
Would I not accomplish the same thing if I ran a wire from the handle to a metal stake in the ground?...Wow..EE’s are smart.Art



You mean you want to support your device on a wire? Even steel wire is too flexible, and you would need to have rock hard ground to get it to stay level.

But you can try it if you like.

Write when you get your LRL to track the target by itself.
 

~EE~
Everything is connected to ground, either directly or indirectly.
Ground, sky, ocean, whatever your magic words might be---they still can't make your LRLs track a moving target, without you tilting them with your hand!

Clamp the bottom tip of the handle in a vise. To provide "bionic energy" power to it, grasp the remaining upper part of the handle with your hand. Next, move a target in front of it, within the specified range. The LRL pointer should follow the target.
I just wonder what happens when you put power between two grounds...I am waiting for your answer...Art
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
Everything is connected to ground, either directly or indirectly.
Ground, sky, ocean, whatever your magic words might be---they still can't make your LRLs track a moving target, without you tilting them with your hand!

Clamp the bottom tip of the handle in a vise. To provide "bionic energy" power to it, grasp the remaining upper part of the handle with your hand. Next, move a target in front of it, within the specified range. The LRL pointer should follow the target.
I just wonder what happens when you put power between two grounds...I am waiting for your answer...Art



In the first place, your LRL has no power.

But you could find out, by trying it with an extension cord from your house. I don't recommend it, though.

Ordinary science would be able to explain that, however.

But it seems that you are allergic to real science, so it wouldn't really matter to you.





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Can You Scientifically Prove to the World That LRLs Work?

Don't be a doof---show the proof!

P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?

A Dozen Points Proving LRL Fraud These points have never been rationally refuted.
 

~EE~
In the first place, your LRL has no power.
But you could find out, by trying it with an extension cord from your house. I don't recommend it, though.

It would be stupid to put 125 volts into a circuit made to operate on 100 milvolts..so..please explain what happens when you put voltage between two grounds if you know the answer.
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE~
In the first place, your LRL has no power.
But you could find out, by trying it with an extension cord from your house. I don't recommend it, though.

It would be stupid to put 125 volts into a circuit made to operate on 100 milvolts..so..please explain what happens when you put voltage between two grounds if you know the answer.




Quit begging and buy yourself a book on electronics. You keep saying that you don't think I know anything about it, anyway, so what good would it do you for me to tell you?





Can You Scientifically Prove to the World That LRLs Work?
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~werleibr~
Here are 3 pictures from one of your movies Art. As you can see in the first picture. The rangertel is not perpendicular to the ground so will there for turn. I used a T to represent perpendicular. Don't think the T is perpendicular? Use the deck in the background as your reference. In Pictures 2 and 3 are a before and after of the rangertell moving. If you look at you had you can tell you have moved just your hand. The shadows on your fingures give away that they were turned to make the rangertel move.
Gee werleibr..I thought we were talking about the movie about finding unknown objects as there is no hand movement in that movie..That was a movie to teach people about how I practice and to show skeptics what using a LRL can accomplish. I don’t worry about the angle of the antenna as it will still swing. I don’t know if the target force moved my hand or not as it does not matter. If the Ideomotor Response was the cause of the hand movement it makes no difference as I know I have a taught my hand how to react to a signal.
You should try it some time as the swings are still weird to me...Some times when using the same target the swing has so much force and the next time it s very weak. Some tell me that they can tell the size of the object by the force but I can not do that.
Yes I like my device as I can learn the depth, distance, if it is coins, bars or rings without walking five miles.. Art

Gee Art, why not show hands? Why keep your back to the camera? IF you are so accurate with your machine why walk up the left side, then down the left side then circle a small area? It has the set up of staged coin. And that was a rather clean looking coin for being in the ground.
 

~werleibr~
Gee Art, why not show hands? Why keep your back to the camera? IF you are so accurate with your machine why walk up the left side, then down the left side then circle a small area? It has the set up of staged coin. And that was a rather clean looking coin for being in the ground.

The entire story of how I made the movie is at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,305970.0.html
The day before I had followed the signal to this spot. I then determined that the target was with in 10 feet of that spot. That morning I had carried all the stuff up the hill and put them to the right of the spot. I went up the hill and put the Camera on the tri pod. Yes I misjudged the distance as it should have been further up the hill

I started the camera and walked down the hill. From that point I used my usual methods to track the signals. When I got back to the spot which was the East-West signal line I took a few steps and turned left and walked until I found the North-South signal. I repeated my movements until I was back to the East-West line. I turned left and walked until I knew that I had just passed the North-South...I reset the distance so as the next time it swung my left heel would be on the target. I marked the spot and did the recovery.

I don’t want anyone to think that my methods are the only way to follow a signal with the ranger tell as it is not...With my other LRL’s I use completely different methods.... You have to know what the limits are for every difference LRL as they all work a little different...
Thank You werleibr for allowing me to put information about LRL’s on this board..Art
 

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aarthrj3811 said:
~werleibr~
Gee Art, why not show hands? Why keep your back to the camera? IF you are so accurate with your machine why walk up the left side, then down the left side then circle a small area? It has the set up of staged coin. And that was a rather clean looking coin for being in the ground.

The entire story of how I made the movie is at http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,305970.0.html
The day before I had followed the signal to this spot. I then determined that the target was with in 10 feet of that spot. That morning I had carried all the stuff up the hill and put them to the right of the spot. I went up the hill and put the Camera on the tri pod. Yes I misjudged the distance as it should have been further up the hill

I started the camera and walked down the hill. From that point I used my usual methods to track the signals. When I got back to the spot which was the East-West signal line I took a few steps and turned left and walked until I found the North-South signal. I repeated my movements until I was back to the East-West line. I turned left and walked until I knew that I had just passed the North-South...I reset the distance so as the next time it swung my left heel would be on the target. I marked the spot and did the recovery.

I don’t want anyone to think that my methods are the only way to follow a signal with the ranger tell as it is not...With my other LRL’s I use completely different methods.... You have to know what the limits are for every difference LRL as they all work a little different...
Thank You werleibr for allowing me to put information about LRL’s on this board..Art

But no mention of why the coin was so clean comming out of the ground.
 

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