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Hey Jim,
As to the rumors from the recent get together....... Derogatory comments did come back to me in record time from that event. From two totally unrelated sources. I called Wayne (somehiker) out on it publically. Not behind his back. He disavowed all knowledge of it and was vouched for by several. That caused me to replay in my mind exactly what was relayed to me by the individuals who heard the comments at the event. Giving Wayne (somehiker) every benefit of the doubt, I couldn't be certain if a last name was used in the retelling. He and I hashed that out very publically. I believe he is sincere. Do I believe there was talk? Yes, I do. By who, I'm not certain. Somehiker says it wasn't him. That's good enough for me. Regardless of who, its absurd on its face. I’ll leave it to Karma to take care of those who would partake in such talk.
As to what Frank may have and know and where we having differing opinions….
Let's dispense with the easy one first. Does any one here believe Janie (JANIE !!!) yelled "sucker" out of the car window to Clarence Mitchell when he purchased the last of the Stone Maps? I haven’t gone back to do the math, but I believe she was 8 years old at the time. Maybe 9 at the most. Janie was (I’m told) a quiet person, some would say timid, even as an adult. She didn’t like controversy and avoided it whenever possible. Do you really think she is the voice of the “sucker” comment
I know she’s not because I have been told the story from the direct descendant of the person who supposedly did make that comment.
Frank has also told you Pegleg couldn’t have written a manuscript because he was illiterate. Well, that’s not true either. I have a copy of a letter written by Pegleg to his daughter just days before his death. His penmanship, sentence structure and spelling is impeccable. BTW, there is no known manuscript from Pegleg. That story too is fiction.
Now let talk about Pegleg and his maps. The source of Pegleg having maps is Frank Dobie’s book. The Dobie book tells a story from early in Pegleg’s life. Not his waning years. Any maps in “the family” now is Source Unknown. His family can not pin point where they came from. He’s a possibility, but so are a bunch of other possible sources.
How do I know that? Because I talk with them on a regular basis. We have all become quite good friends over the time we have had together. We talked today.
During the heat of the research we would speak sometimes as much as four times a day and for hours at a time. The source of the maps was a hot topic and covered fully individually and collectively. It was discussed, at length, numerous times.
Do I feel certain they are being truthful? Yes; I do.
Does the Peralta Tesora Mappa, various maps Frank has seen within the family, and various maps Garmin used share similarities. Yes, but so do hummingbirds and crows. They all have wings. Same amount of commonality.
Now..........If you have one ounce of fairness about you, ask Frank to pony up the source of his postings at issue as openly as I have.
As to the rumors from the recent get together....... Derogatory comments did come back to me in record time from that event. From two totally unrelated sources. I called Wayne (somehiker) out on it publically. Not behind his back. He disavowed all knowledge of it and was vouched for by several. That caused me to replay in my mind exactly what was relayed to me by the individuals who heard the comments at the event. Giving Wayne (somehiker) every benefit of the doubt, I couldn't be certain if a last name was used in the retelling. He and I hashed that out very publically. I believe he is sincere. Do I believe there was talk? Yes, I do. By who, I'm not certain. Somehiker says it wasn't him. That's good enough for me. Regardless of who, its absurd on its face. I’ll leave it to Karma to take care of those who would partake in such talk.
As to what Frank may have and know and where we having differing opinions….
Let's dispense with the easy one first. Does any one here believe Janie (JANIE !!!) yelled "sucker" out of the car window to Clarence Mitchell when he purchased the last of the Stone Maps? I haven’t gone back to do the math, but I believe she was 8 years old at the time. Maybe 9 at the most. Janie was (I’m told) a quiet person, some would say timid, even as an adult. She didn’t like controversy and avoided it whenever possible. Do you really think she is the voice of the “sucker” comment
I know she’s not because I have been told the story from the direct descendant of the person who supposedly did make that comment. Frank has also told you Pegleg couldn’t have written a manuscript because he was illiterate. Well, that’s not true either. I have a copy of a letter written by Pegleg to his daughter just days before his death. His penmanship, sentence structure and spelling is impeccable. BTW, there is no known manuscript from Pegleg. That story too is fiction.
Now let talk about Pegleg and his maps. The source of Pegleg having maps is Frank Dobie’s book. The Dobie book tells a story from early in Pegleg’s life. Not his waning years. Any maps in “the family” now is Source Unknown. His family can not pin point where they came from. He’s a possibility, but so are a bunch of other possible sources.
How do I know that? Because I talk with them on a regular basis. We have all become quite good friends over the time we have had together. We talked today.
During the heat of the research we would speak sometimes as much as four times a day and for hours at a time. The source of the maps was a hot topic and covered fully individually and collectively. It was discussed, at length, numerous times.
Do I feel certain they are being truthful? Yes; I do.
Does the Peralta Tesora Mappa, various maps Frank has seen within the family, and various maps Garmin used share similarities. Yes, but so do hummingbirds and crows. They all have wings. Same amount of commonality.
Now..........If you have one ounce of fairness about you, ask Frank to pony up the source of his postings at issue as openly as I have.
