Video 4 - The Peralta Stone Maps with Frank Augustine

RG1976 said:
Thanks for the suggestion Hal. We don't have ads on our videos. We did at one time though.


And just for fun - in case anyone is interested. You make about $7.50 per 1,000 ad views.

It costs me that just to drive over to Frank's to pick him up!
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Depending on when you stopped, hopfully you recouped a part of your investment. I think that you deserve to be compensated for viewers viewing your videos. Original video content produces measurable value. If you are generating viewers on YouTube, you are driving ad revenue and are entitled to a piece of that pie. I think that even your detractors here would support you being compensated. So, rethink the ad views thing, use that money to make things square with TNet, and get your work (and others) back up.

The only obsticle would be anything filmed in the SWA without proper permit. You have that so resolve the glitch and continue moving forward with your work.
 

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Hal Croves said:
Depending on when you stopped, hopfully you recouped a part of your investment. I think that you deserve to be compensated for viewers viewing your videos. Original video content produces measurable value. If you are generating viewers on YouTube, you are driving ad revenue and are entitled to a piece of that pie. I think that even your detractors here would support you being compensated. So, rethink the ad views thing, use that money to make things square with TNet, and get your work (and others) back up.

The only obsticle would be anything filmed in the SWA without proper permit. You have that so resolve the glitch and continue moving forward with your work.
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I've received a plan to move forward from FFarl (admin here) - he will be phoning me here in a bit. He has a great plan - and we feel confident things will be up and running again soon.

As a side note, let me tell you a bit about YouTube ads and shooting on Federal, BLM, State Trust, SWA, etc. My understanding is permits are not required for any of those areas (with the exception of the SWA) if you are not shooting with professional equipment or not profiting from the "media". This is a fine line, I will admit.

YouTube ads, as you suggest, are a form of profit. Once we got our non-paid sponsors - and started venturing off from my first 3 videos (which had to do with the legends show) we took down all the ads so that we would be able to continue to create content without risk of breaking any laws or paying any fines. As of today, the collection of all our videos together, if they were still generating YouTube revenue, would equate to less than one tank of gas in the car and a nice dinner. In order to be a huge success on YouTube, you need millions of subscribers and videos a few times a week. As much as we all love the LDM / Stone Maps topic - it wouldn't be able to generate that many "fans".

If we were to put the ads back up, we would be shut down 100%. Now I don't think that you knew that, or implied that, but that would be the reality. (listen in with that Bill, and your great videos as well. No ads!)
 

Take a breath,regroup,and onward through the haze!
Looking forward to future vids.
 

Perhaps more discoveries of panties hanging in the bushes and the owners of said undergarments would generate more views?
Sex sells...so they say. :tongue3:
Hope you guys can work it out somehow. Be great if you can generate a little gas money without violating anyone's "rules". Best of luck.
 

Hey Folks,

I was hoping the admins might put the Video6 Thread back up sans the video, so we could still have all the info. Since that hasn't happened, I will post this here.

On that thread, Ryan talked about the pic of me with the H/P Stone being Photoshopped. I strenuously denied it for one reason. Whenever I am going through pics, I make global adjustments for brightness, contrast, rotation, etc. If I use any tools to alter a specific portion of a picture (not the entire pic, but a selected part), I ALWAYS make notes in the EXIF Files of the altered version. That way, each individual pic contains details of everything I have done it. EXIF Files are all the details of the picture that are digitally encoded into the picture itself. Here is an example of an EXIF File I pulled off Google Images:

exifread.jpg

That is far and away not a complete EXIF File. If your camera has GPS Capabilities, the Lat and Long of your pics are encoded there as well.

That aside, when the allegation was made, I opened the pic's exifs, and voila.....no notes. I didn't edit it for anything other than global. After looking at the pic last night, it is evident that the pic was poorly Photoshopped. Not something I would do..... or so I thought.

As I have stated many times in the past, and have proven on a couple of occasions; when I am wrong or mistaken, I like to think that I am both man enough and intellectually honest enough to admit when I was wrong.

I WAS WRONG!

Here is the original of that pic:

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I can't post the original unedited .PEF (RAW) picture, because it is not an accepted file type to upload pictures on TNet.

No reason to lie about something as inconsequential as brightening a spot in the pic, but the subject is something I am very anal about, because I catch people all the time saying that a pic is just like it came out of the camera. UNTOUCHED! Then, I check the EXIF Files and see that it was altered in Photoshop. Funny thing though; the pic doesn't really need brightening!

Ryan thought I may have brightened that section to bring out the stone, because I am backlit by the sun in that pic. It would make the stone darker. I must have been playing with the pic, then moved on to something else without adding notes. Ryan graciously offered me a way out that made me look better, but I have never, and will never compromise my integrity. I have tens of thousands of pictures in my library, and I am not going to go through all of them to make sure all the ones that need notation have it. I will say now that if the allegation is ever made again, I will have to look at the pic before denying it. HAHAHA Now that I know I am not infallible!

Mike
 

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That was pretty awesome of you to do Mike! I can see how easily something like that would happen.

You're a stand up guy for coming in here and correcting yourself.

I'm sorry that it got turned into such a big issue, and it shouldn't have.

Look forward to talking to you by phone again. We have much to talk about and compare ideas.

-RG
 

Mike your an honorable man admitting an error, cheers for that.
 

RG1976 said:
I've received a plan to move forward from FFarl (admin here) - he will be phoning me here in a bit. He has a great plan - and we feel confident things will be up and running again soon.

As a side note, let me tell you a bit about YouTube ads and shooting on Federal, BLM, State Trust, SWA, etc. My understanding is permits are not required for any of those areas (with the exception of the SWA) if you are not shooting with professional equipment or not profiting from the "media". This is a fine line, I will admit.

YouTube ads, as you suggest, are a form of profit. Once we got our non-paid sponsors - and started venturing off from my first 3 videos (which had to do with the legends show) we took down all the ads so that we would be able to continue to create content without risk of breaking any laws or paying any fines. As of today, the collection of all our videos together, if they were still generating YouTube revenue, would equate to less than one tank of gas in the car and a nice dinner. In order to be a huge success on YouTube, you need millions of subscribers and videos a few times a week. As much as we all love the LDM / Stone Maps topic - it wouldn't be able to generate that many "fans".

If we were to put the ads back up, we would be shut down 100%. Now I don't think that you knew that, or implied that, but that would be the reality. (listen in with that Bill, and your great videos as well. No ads!)
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When we were on speaking terms you told me that you had already made much more than gas and a nice meal, you even laughed about it. I agreed and was impressed. Now that take is much less? I think that I am done trying to communicate with you Ryan. I will keep out of your threads & posts moving forward and ask for the same courtesy.

Thanks
 

Thread Reopened .

Warning to all.. Stay on Topic !

If the OP causes problems in a thread, the thread is subject to Lock or Deletion.
If a Poster causes problems they are Subject to Deletion or Ban !

No Accusations Allowed By anyone !!!!

& I don't want to see any more of this !

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Unfortunately do to recent decisions by Tnet I feel that it's time to post elsewhere. Ryan and I go to great effort to bring new things to this site. Apparently Tnet does not appreciate the added attention. This happened at a very bad time for all. Something that will bring great interest to the stone subject has occurred. Our plans to share with our viewers and friends need to change. I will see you all elsewhere from this point on. I will miss our discussions on the site. I wish you all the best and remember always keep a open mind!
 

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sgtfda said:
Unfortunately do to recent decisions
by Tnet I feel that it's time to post elsewhere. Ryan and I go to great effort to bring new things to this site. Apparently Tnet does not appreciate the added attention. This happened at a very bad time for all. Something that will bring great interest to the stone subject has occurred. Our plans to share with our viewers and friends need to change. I will see you all elsewhere from this point on. I will miss our discussions on the site. I wish you all the best and remember always keep a open mind!
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i dome blame you frank...let me know where you guy's end up...
 

You know you and Ryan have my support wherever you decide to post Frank!
 

sgtfda said:
Unfortunately do to recent decisions by Tnet I feel that it's time to post elsewhere. Ryan and I go to great effort to bring new things to this site. Apparently Tnet does not appreciate the added attention. This happened at a very bad time for all. Something that will bring great interest to the stone subject has occurred. Our plans to share with our viewers and friends need to change. I will see you all elsewhere from this point on. I will miss our discussions on the site. I wish you all the best and remember always keep a open mind!
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This SUCKS!!!
Frank and Ryan,
You have brought a revived sense of freshness to this Forum. The discussions that you have opened, the videos you have posted, have been on so many levels, inspirational, educational and compelling with every twist and turn.
I understand that you have to make decisions that are best for the both of you, however, the loss of ingenuity that you both have presented will leave me with a question as to return or not.
I, as I have stated before, am not a treasure hunter. However, like many of you, have always dreamed of buried treasure as a child and I fulfill that fantasy by metal detecting.
Through your efforts I have been awarded hours of remarkable education that I could never find written in the pages of a book. I have been challenged both intellectually and emotionally as I have posted my opinions as to what I see.
Ryan I Thank you for being innovative and stepping into uncharted territory with the passion to think "Outside the box". It is your passion that drives you to bring us into a world that many of us are not able to physically see. You brought that to me and I thank you for that.
I will continue to try and find you both wherever you may go as you have ignited a fire within me to want to see this through to the finish line with you.
Thank you both for a tremendous journey!

Tina
 

DiggerGal said:
This SUCKS!!!
Frank and Ryan,
You have brought a revived sense of freshness to this Forum. The discussions that you have opened, the videos you have posted, have been on so many levels, inspirational, educational and compelling with every twist and turn.
I understand that you have to make decisions that are best for the both of you, however, the loss of ingenuity that you both have presented will leave me with a question as to return or not.
I, as I have stated before, am not a treasure hunter. However, like many of you, have always dreamed of buried treasure as a child and I fulfill that fantasy by metal detecting.
Through your efforts I have been awarded hours of remarkable education that I could never find written in the pages of a book. I have been challenged both intellectually and emotionally as I have posted my opinions as to what I see.
Ryan I Thank you for being innovative and stepping into uncharted territory with the passion to think "Outside the box". It is your passion that drives you to bring us into a world that many of us are not able to physically see. You brought that to me and I thank you for that.
I will continue to try and find you both wherever you may go as you have ignited a fire within me to want to see this through to the finish line with you.
Thank you both for a tremendous journey!

Tina
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Tina.... Ryan and frank helped make this section of the forum as popular as it is...if you look at some of the other sub forums in the treasure legends section (the lost adams..mine with the iron door..etc.)..they have nowhere near the audience the lmd forum has and that is due in a large part to franks show on tv and then ryan and franks videos...they have kept this forum alive and it will not be the same without them..
 

Hmm.
What ever trails you wind up on, your passion will continue.
Bridges not burnt might offer return in time.
Careful out in the desert on wobbly rocks and around things that poke.
Enjoyed the vids alot and most of the stone maps sortin out so far..
 

sgtfda said:
Unfortunately do to recent decisions by Tnet I feel that it's time to post elsewhere. Ryan and I go to great effort to bring new things to this site. Apparently Tnet does not appreciate the added attention. This happened at a very bad time for all. Something that will bring great interest to the stone subject has occurred. Our plans to share with our viewers and friends need to change. I will see you all elsewhere from this point on. I will miss our discussions on the site. I wish you all the best and remember always keep a open mind!
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Reading here 4 a long time ...... can not count the number of people who have taken their marbles and gone home... again. There is no other forum which compares to Tnet.

Thank you Gollum, Matthew Roberts, Greg, Somehiker, for your continued tolerance, veracity, and efforts.

Best of luck Frank and Ryan.

Better days,
Poncho
 

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