UPDATE: Whites Forum/What the Heck is Going ON????

[Napa Steve]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

in the old forum there was posts in real time that constantly refreshed itself it was all the different subjects grouped into real time for instance if i made a post in todays finds anybody looking at posts in real time could see them,each subject would be displayed in real time when you made a post or reply it would tell you digit replied 1 minute ago to evan/Tn post maybe Mel or someone could explain it better

Still not sure what you're describing... we'll be using vBulletin for the new forum software, it is one of the more popular ones.

Well I'm going home for the night, but I'll do a little more work from home. Hope to have the forum up tomorrow afternoon/evening.

Hey Jake, if theres a way for you to look back at Whites old forum you will see the word Now, which is real time posting, I believe most members used that the most, it sure would be nice to have it back

 

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[bigwater]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Get prepared for a flood of tech support Jake. You can write an easy script to send a password authentication to a copy of the old database, authenticate the user, update the new database with the md5+salt, and then direct the user login to the new database from that point forward. But if you don't do that you'll be having most every user on the site emailing you that they can't log in. Unfortunately, most people don't notice the "here" link in the failed password page on vBulletin because it's just not obvious, so they'll be registering as a new user and PM'ing staff asking to have their passwords to their old accounts reset. Half of them will have an expired email address from their initial registration so you'll have to deal with it manually. Take my word for this... take the time and write a couple of lines of code to handle this for you.

 

[jake@whites]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Get prepared for a flood of tech support Jake. You can write an easy script to send a password authentication to a copy of the old database, authenticate the user, update the new database with the md5+salt, and then direct the user login to the new database from that point forward. But if you don't do that you'll be having most every user on the site emailing you that they can't log in. Unfortunately, most people don't notice the "here" link in the failed password page on vBulletin because it's just not obvious, so they'll be registering as a new user and PM'ing staff asking to have their passwords to their old accounts reset. Half of them will have an expired email address from their initial registration so you'll have to deal with it manually. Take my word for this... take the time and write a couple of lines of code to handle this for you.

I'm ready for it

From a security standpoint, I think we're better off with emailing users and forcing a password reset, rather than transferring over the passwords. We'll be doing this before we ask treasurenet to update the link to our forum, that way most people find their way to the new forum through the email rather than linking from here. I know it is probably going to be a pain, but I'm willing to deal with it.

I will look into writing a script to to transfer the passwords in the morning, to see how easy it might be. If it takes me a few extra hours to do it, then I might.

 

[bigwater]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

It's not hard at all. Just a couple of lines of code that reference a copy of the old database and pass the SMF way of doing things over for authentication, then update the new database with the new encoded password. I have to stress though, use a COPY of the old database. Don't send this request to the live database, because you're going to have to mark it once somebody logs in on your site to prevent the request from going there again, and you'll screw up the login to the old site forever. A copy of the database will allow you to mark records as people log in, redirecting them from that point forward to the new login at their new site, without screwing up their login at the old site.

You'll still have a few users that won't be able to authenticate... but two or three users a week that you have to handle manually is better than having to handle everybody on the site.

There's no real security issues here. It's just the request for authentication from the database on one server and the updating of the information on the other server. There is no real clear text passing of information from one site to the other other than the exact same login information that the user uses initially.

 

[jake@whites]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

It's not hard at all. Just a couple of lines of code that reference a copy of the old database and pass the SMF way of doing things over for authentication, then update the new database with the new encoded password. I have to stress though, use a COPY of the old database. Don't send this request to the live database, because you're going to have to mark it once somebody logs in on your site to prevent the request from going there again, and you'll screw up the login to the old site forever. A copy of the database will allow you to mark records as people log in, redirecting them from that point forward to the new login at their new site, without screwing up their login at the old site.

You'll still have a few users that won't be able to authenticate... but two or three users a week that you have to handle manually is better than having to handle everybody on the site.

I'll definitely look into it in the morning, thanks for the info.

 

[bigwater]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

If you need some direction, give me a shout. I'm slammed with work this week, but always have a few minutes to spend with another gear head. I can't take the time to write the script for you, but I can point you in the right direction if you have problems.

 

[M-Taliesin]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

If you need some direction, give me a shout. I'm slammed with work this week, but always have a few minutes to spend with another gear head. I can't take the time to write the script for you, but I can point you in the right direction if you have problems.

Howdy Bigwater!
Golly, you guys am way smart. I hardly understand half what you're talking about.
Now wonder I couldn't cope with SMF by itself, let alone transition anything.

As I've been reading your posts, I feel like I'm studying Greek!

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

 

[MARCVS]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Hello friends
Good news....new forum looks great .......and i was afraid that White`s forum is gone
HH

 

[jake@whites]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

I'm done for the night (morning now), I finished all of the importing, and only have a few things left to finish up in the morning. So far we're still on track for Monday afternoon/evening.

 

[M-Taliesin]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Hello friends
Good news....new forum looks great .......and i was afraid that White`s forum is gone
HH

Howdy Marcvs!
We are anticipating the forum re-opening today, hopefully in the afternoon or evening,
and all get back into our own little home on the web, back together again as the big
happy family the White's forum has become for most of us.

We've been holed up here since the forum went dark, but our exile should soon be
over. Kind of exciting, ain't it?

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

 

[M-Taliesin]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Howdy Folks!
I want to take a moment to thank the moderators of T-Net for taking care of us while we
are here, and waiting for the White's Forum to return to operations on the White's servers.
They have done well by us, and I beleive we owe them gratitude.

In particular, I'd like to thank Wreckdiver1715 for his efforts to ensure that order has been
restored to our forum here and any other moderators who took part in resolving an issue
that cropped up yesterday afternoon.

T-Net was, and continues to be, a fine forum for folks to enjoy and it is good that they
take concerns from members seriously. Speaking for myself personally, I have enjoyed
visiting T-Net over the past couple of years, and they have always been great. My hopes
for their continued success going forward and well wishes go to them them with fond
regards.

The countdown to the launch of White's website continues, and I hope that our forum
will be back online later today. The word from Jake and Carl is encouraging, and we
are all anticipating great things. A big round of applause to them for their hard work
too. Kudos are certainly in order.

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

& Of course any of you Newbies who
Just signed up here, Because of the Transition
Remember, You are always welcome to Share with Us
also.

Jeff

 

[M-Taliesin]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

& Of course any of you Newbies who
Just signed up here, Because of the Transition
Remember, You are always welcome to Share with Us
also.

Jeff

Howdy Jeff!
Many thanks, and we surely do appreciate all you guys have done for us.
When the White's forum returns, I'll still poke my head in here and enjoy this forum too!

Blessings,
M-Taliesin

 

[Evan/tn]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Thanxs T-net for putting up with us Whites vagabonds while were "in transition"

 

[odave]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

& Of course any of you Newbies who
Just signed up here, Because of the Transition
Remember, You are always welcome to Share with Us
also.

Jeff

Thanks Pal

 

[jake@whites]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Morning everyone,

I've got a few things to take care of this morning before I finish things up with the forum.

-Jake

 

[Dimeman]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

my apologies to the people involved in getting this forum thing straightend out , if my avatar is offensive in you're eyes i will change it, I find that gentleman objecting to be slightly out of line in his remarks as i don't know him and have never had a conversation with him on the subject.I am certainly not anything like the person he portrays me to be, i am in fact a grandfather of 6 and a greatgrandfather of 1 .I think i would like an apology for some of his remarks, but i am quite sure there won't be any coming. To all the people that spoke on my behalf i thank you.It might be of interest to you ,my wife hates the avatar too. HH JIM

Bowser, we like your avatar.... it is humorous.... please don't change it.

Robbie

 

[jake@whites]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Good morning (or afternoon, depending on where you are ),

I'm still cleaning up some things from the import. Once I get the majority of it done I'll probably go ahead and send out an email for the password resets. I don't want to have any more downtime than I have to, so I think just resetting the passwords will be the best way to get everyone back online. Those who don't receive an email after I send it out can email me directly with their user information and I'll see about updating their email address (if it is incorrect) and getting it reset for them.

I'm not sure exactly what the limitation was before for posting images, but we've got plenty of room on the server, so it shouldn't be as limited as before.

Still can't give a time as to when it will be up. I'm still shooting for this afternoon. I'll be leaving work around 4:30 PDT, so hopefully it will be up by the time I leave, if not I'll work on it some more from home.

 

[mgtmadness]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

Sweet! Thank You Jake. Now I just need to wait on my DFX The White's Service department has. Maybe I'll go detecting before the rain comes.

 

[sandals55]

Re: UPDATE: White's Forum/What the Heck is Going ON?

my apologies to the people involved in getting this forum thing straightend out , if my avatar is offensive in you're eyes i will change it, I find that gentleman objecting to be slightly out of line in his remarks as i don't know him and have never had a conversation with him on the subject.I am certainly not anything like the person he portrays me to be, i am in fact a grandfather of 6 and a greatgrandfather of 1 .I think i would like an apology for some of his remarks, but i am quite sure there won't be any coming. To all the people that spoke on my behalf i thank you.It might be of interest to you ,my wife hates the avatar too. HH JIM

Bowser, we like your avatar.... it is humorous.... please don't change it.

Robbie

For those that have never personally met Bowser like I have, you do not know him. He is a gentleman and I always remember him as a Teddy Bear, someone that you just want to hug!! Personally, I don't pay much attention to anyone's avatar as most of us have changed ours numerous times depending on our moods and 'circumstances' at the moment....I have been a blue and white person, then totally blue (none of my doing)....just gotta go with the flow and have fun!

and on a another note, I personally want to take this opportunity to thank TNET for allowing us 'misfits' to find some temporary housing during the transition. This chance to come here has given me the opportunity to spend more time here and learn to navigate around and feel comfortable enough to start posting and not be a lurker.

Thank you to the owners and mods for giving us all a place to share our great hobby, to meet new people and to learn from others