Treasure Marks/Signs - Diagnosed Here

By the way, I cant go tromping out on them mountains, I have only taken pictures from the roads around, an once long ago, when I saw the gate open I went on the dirt road, down below this area, but I had no idea those monuments were there till, this summer, which perplexes me, being a , addicted rock an monument reader, cant pass, up anything without looking, lol suppose there are a few or more of those on this site. LOL But it just blows me away, I have never seen those signs before? are they ment to just appear, at a certain time? lol because they are so huge u cant really miss them, lol but I did all these years, till lately, and to the south of the pie monument, an down on another little hill leading into the area, is a rock soldier, with his arm folded up, like holding a rifle, as a ;sentry duty? across the river from that, on auga mansa an market, in riverside, is a big rock dog monument,big floppy ears like ? poodle? and there is a pyramid MN in yet. lol
snake mtns, to the west of the big dog, an others also across the valley as gate points mostly but not that one its sorta hidden from any direction other than if ur lookin west, just down from the pie rock monument is another bell shaped or pyramid shaped mtn, with serious, scrapins like mined, all covered up now, lots of monuments on that mtn also, including alien shaped heads, lol with eyes, lol u know like ur standard gray alien with large forhead, an elongated head, small narrow chin, not even sure what that is suppost to be thought that was sci fi shows stuff, but they got a witness marker, just like it, lol so it must be something that , they knew about? lol maybe how they was able to carve all this stuff outa rocks, an not just carve but also add the features by shadowing or faint fresco type painting even, I zoomed in on the 7T ;above the native face, and saw a guy in a long skirt? lol an holding something up in his right hand, not sure if a sword or paper or pointing but I could actually see his faci features an his hat, an beanie type or china type? not sure skull type cap. I got no idea who that would be? maybe a priest? maybe a before that time? ancienter? lol I have also , a sombrero or hat on that mnt s near those pics, many hearts, too many to even understand, either its a real hot spot for treasure catch or someone has gone crazy carving, oh yah birds or, parrots an skulls, thought that was pirate stuff, was someone left on a island there an around here at some time? to carve all that stuff, its too consentrated, vast areas of this local, all around, even kgc wasn't that motivated I dont think? lol as far as I know the area might be able to get into by walking from locked gates, or dirt roads over the mtn from the east side, but I dont know of other ways to get in with a vehicle, unless u got the key , sometimes I see motorcycle an 4x4 out in that area, not sure how they got there, yet, as I am a disabled woman with a walking disability so I wont probally be out there trompin or digging LOL Thanks in advance for ur help an replys, of imput on this area an pics. Cat
 

I dont care that I have revealed this site, I hope u all get on ur, google earth? or something an go lookie for urself, I dont own this site, or have a greed to have what might be there, I do appriciate all the cool art work, an dont want that altered or moved or distroyed by gung ho hunters, because this is telling some repeated history of this area visited by lots apparently, an mined, yes there is a history of gold in the area, an even to this day gold can be placer mined panned dry washed etc, lytle creek, hydrolic mining, taxas hill, an millions came out, that would be up one of the intersecting rivers north of these monuments, closer to north west inlet of the valley, think that bell guy had land ownership up there too? not sure, one time the total canyon claim staked out, now still some an still gold in the creek, and even below this area of the pictures near Mt Rubidoux, a guy told me he panned down there an got about a pea sized nugget, in the winter that little trickel of water, turns to a raging river of rapids, when it rains, an all the mtn watershed comes down it too. This area is also suppost to of been, one of the GIANT REDWOOD areas, all gone now by early loggers of the north east, huge trees, pics in the riverside city museum, of itty bitty men standing on these humongous, trees. Giant trees redwoods would of made good markers, if someone didnt come along an cut them all. LOL The mtns around riverside are rather barren lookin, but lots of big rocks on them, lol So if got google earth, park urself at agua manza cemetery, an look south, across the river, or go to the carls jr, gas station, at riverside ave an agua manza, look south an east an accross the river. The colton dump is up from these monuments on the same side of the river in the same group of mtns la loma hills. And the preist with the cross sealing his lipsan rectangle eye, he is higher up from a, radio tower or repeater signal thingy. google earth will let u zoom right in an even see some of the smaller hearts. Such as the white one in the area both the native an preist eye are looking down in that ravine.
 

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SWR said:
Cat Janes said:
Ok gonna try this, but I dont want anyone running out an, distroying[sic] these works of amzaing[sic] art, carved out of an , in giant rocks,an little rocks, from ancients, others?,alians[sic]? skeery figures? native americans, mexicans , french germans italians english etc LOL , to franciscans , jesuits, spanish, mormons, masons, kgc, who ever, all left them, they left them, to tell a story, or to direct which way to go , if u can read them.

Thank you for posting pictures of natural rock formations.

(please use punctuation, periods and paragraphs for easier reading) :thumbsup:

SWR? I am sorry ,I am a head injury victem, from a head on collision, so I lack writing skills of punctuations, spellings etc, an still workin on it.
NATURAL ROCK FORMATION? yah but CARVED TOO, or brought into, an or constructed on those spots, cement mix is a old big thing around this area, they could of formed them? I dont know , but they aint just natural, an some of my treasure hunting, friends will see that, these are not just little , petragliff scraping an these are not all that ambiguous. They are pretty visable when the shadowing is just right of course other things show up, but thanks for belittling my pics, which I shared, an putting them down, saying natural rock formations, which

I an others, respectfully, totally disagree, with ur opinion.

And recognise them, as OMEGA monuments, And art work, an road signs, to who ever is to see, let him or her see, an understand, if they are worthy, oh an plenty of end monuments, or Z, in area also.
 

SWR said:
Cat Janes said:
SWR said:
Cat Janes said:
Ok gonna try this, but I dont want anyone running out an, distroying[sic] these works of amzaing[sic] art, carved out of an , in giant rocks,an little rocks, from ancients, others?,alians[sic]? skeery figures? native americans, mexicans , french germans italians english etc LOL , to franciscans , jesuits, spanish, mormons, masons, kgc, who ever, all left them, they left them, to tell a story, or to direct which way to go , if u can read them.

Thank you for posting pictures of natural rock formations.

(please use punctuation, periods and paragraphs for easier reading) :thumbsup:

SWR? I am sorry ,I am a head injury victem[sic], from a head on collision, so I lack writing skills of punctuations, spellings etc, an still workin on it.
NATURAL ROCK FORMATION? yah but CARVED TOO, or brought into, an or constructed on those spots, cement mix is a old big thing around this area, they could of formed them? I dont know , but they aint just natural, an some of my treasure hunting, friends will see that, these are not just little , petragliff[sic] scraping an these are not all that ambiguous. They are pretty visable[sic] when the shadowing is just right of course other things show up, but thanks for belittling my pics, which I shared, an putting them down, saying natural rock formations, which

I an others, respectfully, totally disagree, with ur opinion.

And recognise[sic] them, as OMEGA monuments, And art work, an road signs, to who ever is to see, let him or her see, an understand, if they are worthy, oh an plenty of end monuments, or Z, in area also.

Omega monuments? You've posted pictures of natural rock formations. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ris said:
People often say and ask why would anyone go to the trouble to carve some of these larger monuments, especially the spanish. I am finding that they didn't really need to. Many monuments were already here, carved by ancient civilizations. Shrines, burial sites, territorial markers, trail markers, all already here for the Spanish to use for their medium. All they needed to do was add their own language to them, by carving there own flavor symbols and signs.

Also I will add, some shadow symbols appear to have been made from the ancients, particularly at ancient burial sites.
 

SWR said:
Cat Janes said:
SWR said:
Cat Janes said:
Ok gonna try this, but I dont want anyone running out an, distroying[sic] these works of amzaing[sic] art, carved out of an , in giant rocks,an little rocks, from ancients, others?,alians[sic]? skeery figures? native americans, mexicans , french germans italians english etc LOL , to franciscans , jesuits, spanish, mormons, masons, kgc, who ever, all left them, they left them, to tell a story, or to direct which way to go , if u can read them.

Thank you for posting pictures of natural rock formations.

(please use punctuation, periods and paragraphs for easier reading) :thumbsup:

SWR? I am sorry ,I am a head injury victem[sic], from a head on collision, so I lack writing skills of punctuations, spellings etc, an still workin on it.
NATURAL ROCK FORMATION? yah but CARVED TOO, or brought into, an or constructed on those spots, cement mix is a old big thing around this area, they could of formed them? I dont know , but they aint just natural, an some of my treasure hunting, friends will see that, these are not just little , petragliff[sic] scraping an these are not all that ambiguous. They are pretty visable[sic] when the shadowing is just right of course other things show up, but thanks for belittling my pics, which I shared, an putting them down, saying natural rock formations, which

I an others, respectfully, totally disagree, with ur opinion.

And recognise[sic] them, as OMEGA monuments, And art work, an road signs, to who ever is to see, let him or her see, an understand, if they are worthy, oh an plenty of end monuments, or Z, in area also.

Omega monuments? You've posted pictures of natural rock formations. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Natural, somewhat, for the areas, rocks , lots of them, of great sizes, any prospector, knows where u have bigger rocks an gold, thats where u will find the gold under the bigger rocks, where the water slowed, thats what agua manza means slow gentle waters or calm waters in spanish, I am showing u pics from , old french Territory's, old mexico, old new spain, an old arizona territory, an old texas territorys, depending on the time periods, I am , right on the spanish trail, thats already documented history's, not to be disputed by u or any others.

I have no idea of the crudentials,of the nah sayer, ?SWR, who calls these natural, thats just --deleted--, when in the pics, if u zoom in, u can see, WITNESS ROCKS, for every single heart, an every single number, and letters, an monument shapes. U dont have witness marker rocks , if they are natural. And one of my bestest friends in the whole world is a dowser,outa colorado springs, was the pres of the association, hes been to the area, not this one, we shoulda went, we ate just up the road from there, searched the rattle snake mtns, an he got hits there.

I do believe this area to of been extensively traveled an used by ancients,even before the spanish.

Sir or Mam? SWR, intended, to point out my disabilities,an not focus on the pictures, of monumentsclosely, I feel, I could of done without your impute, and wished u wouldn't of even posted, and you just seem to be one of them , who wants to piss on others, an make itself seem more knowledgeable , than u are, and it shows, ,cause I ain't a newbie at this stuff, rock an monument reading,
please, do not be, commenting on my posts or pics, if u just want to put them down , because, u cant see it.
And nothing, I post will, be of worth to u.
 

Clueman said:
I am trying to get your thoughts on these symbols from inside a small
mine/ cave in NW Ar. Outside there was a Z UCA L Q .....after locating
the entrance we found the sketched symbols just past a tiny arrastra..


What is the upside down T with the circle above?

Q 4 ? Not Q 24, or Q 14 (5 vara below) Could this Q mean 101 lbs?

Competent help required

Just a thought, but There's the cross with sun rays coming off the top of it. I would assume that's north, because the cross isn't upside down. With the line that's under it that curves, and turns west. Maybe you need to find a cross marker somewhere, and travel south, and around it ( like in a pass or a valley or whatever) and head west. I dunno.
 

I am trying to get your thoughts on these symbols from inside a small
mine/ cave in NW Ar. Outside there was a Z UCA L Q .....after locating
the entrance we found the sketched symbols just past a tiny arrastra..


What is the upside down T with the circle above?

Q 4 ? Not Q 24, or Q 14 (5 vara below) Could this Q mean 101 lbs?

Competent help required




Clueman,

your markings are a map , and brandon is correct North is at the top of the page - Good work Brandon~!

the W on the left shows the orientation as it is West and the W is also the the owl symbol up close.
1. the owl says go East, 90 degrees, toward a [or] the high point, mountain.
2. go around this high point passing it on the left
3. this west facing mountain, no doubt a rocky strewn massive out crop
4. in the noon day sun you will see the monuments that lead to a cache.
5.most likey if a royal trail the janus first then the alpha and the omega.
6 the st georges' cross for protection and 4 cross bars, four circles = D4 Duetornmy chapter 4 ....these are the statues and judgements that I give you this day[translation: this is the distance and the direction to cache]
7. keep it a secret and tell no one, take pics of the monuments you find and I will decode them for you.
8.no landmarks in the photos please - I don't need to know what state it is in, doesn't matter and besides Ihave enough sites of my own after 25 years in the outback, I should live long enough to dig them up~! Correct but not likely~!
oro bro
rangler
will post your map with the mark up asap
 

I only posted my pics here because of the pretty words, which I agree with I would rather be posting to like minded peoples, who can read, monument rocks, no matter how I type, instead of the negative naysayers, I was attacked for my punctuation, first, an then told that my monument pictures, are natural, nothing more, to me, someone who cant even, see past my letters, an function disability's, and not even seriously lookin at the pictures, or the history's of the area, well I wouldn't trust them, to be a very good rock reader , if they can only see things in, proper English format, how well does that make them recognise, or qualified to see, any different forms, of shapes or signs or symbols, ? Probally not very well, and I have put that person on ignore. I did see that person is from florida an I am not sure what sorts of rocks they got down there, or how many mountains that might of once been islands,? off the coast, or a big lake? an the water left, the mtns shrunk down, when the water left, liquifaction ground? or plate slip fault earthquake ? I have seen some old maps, of california with a inlet of the ocean making a passage way, dont know if thats true either, just speculating, by all the different signs I have seen, not just at this site but within the surrounding 10 miles, sharks, seals, porpoise's? so many things monuments, not just etchings or drawings but rocks shaped or formed? to reveal forms faces human animals aliens, lions, camels, gaiters, did we have gaiters here? or is that a Gila? and maybe the area was alot more lush an greener at one time? Any positive imput is welcome , please dont, reply, if u just want to put my typing down. And try an stay focused on the monuments. Thanks Cat
 

rangler said:
I am trying to get your thoughts on these symbols from inside a small
mine/ cave in NW Ar. Outside there was a Z UCA L Q .....after locating
the entrance we found the sketched symbols just past a tiny arrastra..


What is the upside down T with the circle above?

Q 4 ? Not Q 24, or Q 14 (5 vara below) Could this Q mean 101 lbs?

Competent help required




Clueman,

your markings are a map , and brandon is correct North is at the top of the page - Good work Brandon~!

the W on the left shows the orientation as it is West and the W is also the the owl symbol up close.
1. the owl says go East, 90 degrees, toward a [or] the high point, mountain.
2. go around this high point passing it on the left
3. this west facing mountain, no doubt a rocky strewn massive out crop
4. in the noon day sun you will see the monuments that lead to a cache.
5.most likey if a royal trail the janus first then the alpha and the omega.
6 the st georges' cross for protection and 4 cross bars, four circles = D4 Duetornmy chapter 4 ....these are the statues and judgements that I give you this day[translation: this is the distance and the direction to cache]
7. keep it a secret and tell no one, take pics of the monuments you find and I will decode them for you.
8.no landmarks in the photos please - I don't need to know what state it is in, doesn't matter and besides Ihave enough sites of my own after 25 years in the outback, I should live long enough to dig them up~! Correct but not likely~!
oro bro
rangler
will post your map with the mark up asap


There is NO "W" in the Spanish alphabet. (and the Spanish word for "west" is "oeste")That figure is actually 2 "V"s for a value of 55 since the Spanish used the "V" as the Roman numeral for "5". It is not the letter "M" either because the middle "V" shape would be noticeably shorter than the 2 legs. If a figure that looks like an "M" has that center as long as the legs, it is ALSO 2 "V"s for the "55" value. A TRUE "M" (with the noticeably shorter middle) would then have the value of "15".............unless there was a multiplier used in conjunction with it.
 

Clueman,
it would be wise not to take the advise of someone who doesnt know the difference between a symbol and a letter of the alphabet
what I have given can be proven right or wrong in the field, graffiti and confusion can't
oro majority
rangler
 

dsty and Clueman:
The statement I posted concerning the Spanish Alphabet not having a "W" is specifically meaning the Spanish CODE Alphabet and that info comes from at least TWO (2) sources I trust and who are proven "doers" and not "braggarts".
Here is my "cut and paste" copy of one's posted comments that I copied to my records:

Be aware that a W on a trail is probably an "M" as the Spanish didn't use a "W" to eliminate confusion.

If you have a "W" it may be two "V"s as well but that is doubtful. Watch for breaks in the "W" as it could be an "N" "I" or "V" "I" "I" or something similar.


Here is the written comment directly copied from the PUBLISHED book of a highly experienced "DOER"; not a cult activist:

Keep in mind that there is no letter "W" in the Spanish alphabet. So if you see what looks like a "W" it is either an upside down letter "M" or it is two "V" letters connected to look like a "W"."


Here is the Spanish Alphbet Code as posted by Old Dog:

Here in my estimation is about the best representation of the Spanish alphabetical coding system. note which letters they left out and why (very important).

A=1
B=2
C=3
CH- not used C=3, H=9 3+9=12
D=5
E=6
F=7
G=8
H=9
I=1 or 2 Roman Numeral 1, unless it has a dot over it for a value of 2
J=11
K=12
L=13
LL- not used Lx2 =13+13 or 26x2
M=15
N=16
~N=17
O=18
P=19
Q=20
R=21
RR=not used 21+21=42x2
S=22
T=23
U=24
V=5 Roman Numeral 5
X=10 Roman Numeral 10
Y=27
Z=28


Clueman:
Don't worship at the alter of a self-appointed messiah. Do your own research in as many different sources as you can find. It won't take very long before you begin to see a common thread of knowledge about this very specialized area of treasure hunting displayed by the folks who KNOW. There is only ONE individual on this forum who claims to know it all.............and it ain't ME. He will probably PM you, if he hasn't already done so.
 

Caaaaannnn you feeeeel the looooove toooniiiggghhhttt?


There's a time for everyone if they only learn...

There's a rhyme and reason to the wild outdoors..

Yup those are the only lyrics I know to that song, but yet it seemed so appropriate. :laughing9:
 

treasurechest said:
.....Yup those are the only lyrics I know to that song, but yet it seemed so appropriate. :laughing9:

This may also be appropriate here:


...I'll wait in this place where the sun never shines,
Wait in this place where the shadows run from themselves....
 

Ahhhhh........ana 1.........ana2............ana3........OOOOOH.......DEEEE........DOOO......DAAAH
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


Tankya verrrrrr muuuuuch! Eylllll be hear alllll weaka! :coffee2:
 

Springfield said:
treasurechest said:
.....Yup those are the only lyrics I know to that song, but yet it seemed so appropriate. :laughing9:

This may also be appropriate here:


...I'll wait in this place where the sun never shines,
Wait in this place where the shadows run from themselves....
Shortstack said:
Ahhhhh........ana 1.........ana2............ana3........OOOOOH.......DEEEE........DOOO......DAAAH
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


Tankya verrrrrr muuuuuch! Eylllll be hear alllll weaka! :coffee2:

I am going to apologize in advance for springfields, where the sun never shines thingy. I don`t know where that comes from as I am not as smart as him. And he is so good at what he does.

But in construction where the pendejos/peones work. The place where the sun never shines is accompanied by tire tracks, where you did not wipe good enough.

SS, I am also a loss, when too much code is used to communicate here, unnecessarily, I may get the wrong idea.

"I will be here all week "........ I may be decoding this wrong, but is it your turn to watch ranglers post. I am going to assume It`s just misinterpretation on my part. Help! :coffee2:
 

P Y P,
That "I'll be here all week." is a common thing said by standup comedians as they are about to leave the stage after a not so great performance.
 

SS, Gees, man... what ever that means. I should have crossed the river sooner.

As I am trying to forget everthing I know, here you come teaching me some thing new.

You are still under my tent. :coffee2:
 

One book does not a reasonable make a fair thought process, one interpretation does not make a learning process, If you will look at the Kings Measurements you will find that "W" = 23rd letter of the alphabet X 10 = 230 Cm or could = The depth of an object. What happened to you use to be a reasonable person.
 

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