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[oddrock]

To whom it may concern:

If you compare the shape of the top of the hoyo to the cut out portion of the rock visible through the lower portion.....looks like a confirmation match to me....perhaps the knowledge you seek is lower down the hill....look up, look down, but look and see to find the key.

Oddrock

 

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[EE THr]

Seems to me that a lot of just natural stuff is marked as possible signs.
What I see here is either a stain or a natural coloration on the rock.

Try to keep it a little simpler in the interp. It's getting way too complicated.

I agree that interpretations can go too far. But I also think that if all possibilities are considered, then it can be determined where any real sign leaves off, and the natural stuff begins.

Looking at photos has some advantages, as well as some disadvantages. With a photo, you are looking at a two dimensional representation of a three dimensional scene, which is a big disadvantage.

If a person is on-site, and sees something that strikes his eye, he can usually just look at it from a different angle, or several angles, and get a much better idea of it.

With a photo, sometimes things are seen, which the person hadn't even noticed before, and can then be checked out on site. But with a photo only, there is only one angle per shot, and one lighting condition, and dependency on focus and other conditions. So it's very limited.

So, with a photo, why not point out all the possibilities, because, one way or another, it's going to be checked on site later, anyway? And someone just might then find something on site that they wouldn't have checked for otherwise? Even though it might not be a treasure sign, it could be something else informative.

There is a difference between crazy claims, and mere musings.

And there is a lot in between, which just might help somehow.

8)

 

[EE THr]

Is someone trying to say something with these?

 

[EE THr]

These are the two possible statues I mentioned.

 

[EE THr]

And this could resemble a sitting bird.

 

[Shortstack]

To whom it may concern:

If you compare the shape of the top of the hoyo to the cut out portion of the rock visible through the lower portion.....looks like a confirmation match to me....perhaps the knowledge you seek is lower down the hill....look up, look down, but look and see to find the key.

Oddrock

"look and see to find the key." Got it.


Old Dog:
I'd worked up that photo before seeing your post so I posted it anyway. If that truly is a natural thing, then whoever said that the Trinity (God the Father; God the Son; and the Holy Spirit) are often represented in nature sure has that right. I think it was Tesoro Dog who wrote that and Desertmoons has alluded to that thought, too. Well, here's more proof of their belief.

 

[oddrock]

Short stack

The hoyo in question is the same one as I posted in #314, but looking through from the reverse direction. Perhaps the faces are distraction. (If you concentrate on them instead of sighting through.) Perhaps they are there to Guide the right person(s) in the right direction. To the uninformed they may appear as a warning.

Oddrock

 

[oddrock]

EE Thr

In your post #335 you asked "How in the heck do they make this stuff with out leaving chisel marks?)
I would submit that all is needed is an object harder/sharper than the one to be carved, "elbo grease", time, and ability. Some may of been made with a chisel then simply polished/smoothed with an abrasive rock.
I do not believe all of my postings are from the "Spanish" time period.

Oddrock

 

[EE THr]

oddrock---

In your post #335 you asked "How in the heck do they make this stuff with out leaving chisel marks?)
I do not believe all of my postings are from the "Spanish" time period.

I hear you on that one.



I've done some polishing of various surfaces and materials in my time, and I know it's not easy on hard surfaces with lots of curves and angles. Some of the stuff would be easier than others. The hard ones would be the very large, and the very uneven surfaces. I think it would take lots of time, or lots of men, or both! I'm not sure the Spanish would have the desire to do that as much as it appears to have been done.



Shortstack---

That could be. I'm wondering if the hearts, if that's what they actually are, being upside down would be a concern with this hoyo?

 

[Shortstack]

Short stack
The hoyo in question is the same one as I posted in #314, but looking through from the reverse direction. Perhaps the faces are distraction. (If you concentrate on them instead of sighting through.) Perhaps they are there to Guide the right person(s) in the right direction. To the uninformed they may appear as a warning.
Oddrock

Oddrock:
I remember you mentioning that in a previous post and I agree with you about the faces, numbers, letters, etc. might be thrown all over the place as distractions. THAT is why I mark all I see so that when the NEEDED info is established, there will be no questions or thoughts such as, "I wonder if those things were seen?" or "why aren't they used?" When the needed signs are determined, if the person deciphering the signs tells WHY those were the important ones and a brief comment on why the rest are inconsequential, it would be such a great lesson for the rest. Most folks do this, but not all. Too often, negative comments are made and tosses learning experiences into the crapper.
Thank you for not being one of the latter. You have shown tons of patience, just as has Old Dog, and it is appreciated by me, and, I KNOW, others.

 

[oddrock]

Brent,

You asked for an enlargement of my new avatar. I thought the easiest way to enlarge it would to be to post it here. Hope it works.

Oddrock

 

[oddrock]

What do you think? Janus or Holy Trinity? Or?

Oddrock

 

[Shortstack]

Oddrock:
Can a cavity with faces looking in the opposite directions qualify as a "Janus" monument or must they be on the OUTSIDE surface of the monument rock and looking in the opposite directions? Hey, I've made no secret that I'm a newbie at this and try to learn at every point.

I don't think this is a Holy Trinity monument because it appears to be man made........with the heart with a small heart in it's upper right lobe, up on the top front of the stone. Then, there's the little bird like figure on the forehead of the right hand face.

 

[rangler]

this is an omega monument
true trackers pm for solution
rangler

 

[oddrock]

Shortstack

The reason I have asked for opinions is that the "rock" in question does not perfectly fit any examples that I have seen either. Janus monuments are usually? on a flatter surface with the heads back to back looking in the opposite directions. Location is on a trail down into a canyon....

Oddrock

 

[oddrock]

Rangler

Thanks for the info.

Oddrock

 

[oddrock]

....on a Turtle Trail....

Oddrock

 

[EE THr]

I don't think that boulder just rolled into place during high water or an earthquake.

What is seen through the hole at the bottom?

 

[Shortstack]

Oddrock:
There appears to be a bunch of white-ish spots on the side of the top rock that are connected with a black line. Something like these as posted by Old Dog:

 

[oddrock]

I don't think that boulder just rolled into place during high water or an earthquake.

What is seen through the hole at the bottom?

EETHr

I would also guess no accidental placement. I view as a where trails .. divide to more or less cardinal directions...to the right is a trail that leaves a river/creek and goes across land for one days travel...to the next water or campsite. . .to the left is a wetter route....The Hole thru the bottom ...maybe later...R ... maybe I have already posted it.

Oddrock