The Tumacacori Treasure Room and Mines

ORO my friend, I see that you are also a believer of the code of the out back travelers and hunters. "One never leaves until 'all' are accounted for".

The projct takes second place to keeping all of the members accounted for, and intact
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Many cannot understand my determination on this, but it is an honor and mutual responsibility thingie, but I am glad that it is included in your person also.

We will get along.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Real de Tayopa said:
ORO my friend, I see that you are also a believer of the code of the out back travelers and hunters. "One never leaves until 'all' are accounted for".

The projct takes second place to keeping all of the members accounted for, and intact
.
Many cannot understand my determination on this, but it is an honor and mutual responsibility thingie, but I am glad that it is included in your person also.

We will get along.

Don Jose de La Mancha

That's just the way it should be, Period.
there is no treasure ... more important than a life.

Thom
 

HOLA amigo,

Victorio wrote
I for one would like to here the story Oro.

As it is very much off-topic for this thread, I will reply to you via PM. <I will send that in a moment amigo.>

Don Jose’ de la Mancha wrote
ORO my friend, I see that you are also a believer of the code of the out back travelers and hunters. "One never leaves until 'all' are accounted for".

I am glad to know that you also follow the ‘code’ but this comes as no surprise as you are cut of that cloth or more accurate to say buckskin, unfortunately this code is not so commonly followed by many today.

Old Dog wrote
That's just the way it should be, Period.
there is no treasure ... more important than a life.

As always your words are truth amigo. I believe you too are “old school” like our amigo Don Jose.

My apologies to our readers for drifting so far off-topic.
Oroblanco
:coffee2: :coffee2:
 

WELCOME TO TREASURENET Slim! and Merry Christmas too! :hello2: :hello: You have a lot of knowledgeable friends here whom will be happy to help. :icon_thumleft:
Oroblanco
 

Where did every one go? Will be in Tucson from mid Jan to first Feb. Yearly VA checkup, no problems (Hint Goldman and my many other good friends in the Tucson area). No reason to go to Oro valley I guess. sniff.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

HOLA amigo Don Jose'!
I think we are just waiting for some questions from our new friend Slim. Sure wish I could meet you in Tucson, but you never know amigo, and now I know you will be visiting the VA hospital..... :sign13:...oh well I would probably miss out on yet another fun arctic blizzard if I were to slip away for a few weeks. :coffee:

Oroblanco
 

If I remember right the mafia was very active in this area when I left Arizona in 1976. I know we were warned(my dad and his friends worked for Howard Hughes ) not to play around in several areas near there or you would disappear. just sayin
 

Wow, you guys really need that much firepower! In Ohio and Kentucky I carry a handgun) old junk but works) that has snake shot in it just for scaring off anyting..some black bears) and killing snakes. Don't have to contend with illegal aleins or drug smuggling (well got to back up..Ky's major cash crop is Mary Jane) but if I was in the are the captin is in I too would have a good sidearm, and something bigger at camp.
 

No news in this case is good news,
In many ways. LOL

I am still doing some translation ... with a couple things.
Learning a lot, But nothing that is of interest to anyone.
 

Hola Amigo,
I will have to say no thanks on the lone.
I've just discovered that this new fangled I Phone my wife got for me has a calculator built in.
(kind of cute, wires with all the beads on them)

Thanks though
I do appreciate the offer

Your Buddy in CO
Thom
 

hi ,i did some research some time ago on the tumacacori area. after going through the piles of pages of information, i usually try to reduce everything down to the factual information ,that can be cross referenced ,from another source, reducing all, to the lowest common demoniator, so to speak. and im going to list here those findings. i have not read any of the posts here ,so something i list here may be redundant, or already disproved. but for what its worth ,i think most of this data is right on. 1)the virgin of guadalupe mine is one league from front door of the temple, to the south 2)from there ,the ojos d ramon (spring) is to the left and 1800 varas to the north. (a vara is a measurement of just over 32 inches) 3)200 varas before reaching the mine there is a black rock with the letters ccdt chiseled under it. 4)20 varas from this rock is a munoment ,facing south. 5)to the west of this mine are two mountains that have been destroyed with black powder so that enormous rocks covered the mouth of the mine. 6)there is a treasure within a 50 vara square ,at the mouth of this mine. 7)directly south and within 3 leagues is a pass called puerto de janos (this means a gap in the mountains ,puerto de janos is a good starting point and can be easily found. 8)just to the south of this pass is an area with 12 arrastras and 12 patios( im guessing everybody knows what they are) 9)there is a mine close by called the imaculate concepcion, its name carved in rock above the entrance. 10)50 varas north of this mine is an arroyo where you will find chunks of virgin silver. (planchas de plata) well known site, currently under claim and being explored by a mining company. the arroyo is located on a ranch in sonora ,mexico ,owners are americans .i believe they run a bed and breakfast of some sort.11)halfway between the virgin of guadalupe mine and the immaculate concepcion mine is the los opatas mine. 12) from the opata mine you will see a long mesa to the east. 13)from the opata mine runs a very large canyon to the west. 14) the ore of the opata mine is lime in nature. this was most probably a placer mine .with placer gold found in caliche(lime layer).15) on the other side of the mountain from the opata mine is the virgin of guadalupe mine. the mine named san pedro is 3 leagues from the mine san isabel. 16)there is a river that runs 1/5 league north of the san pedro mine. 17) the san pedro mine is near some black hills. 18)the san pedro mine is 1.5 leagues from the side of the temple to the west. 19)from the san pedro mine you can see arivaca. maybe someone would like to try to get some topographical maps and piece this information togather. since there are a couple of known points it shouldnt be that hard as far as treasure hunting goes. i hopes this helps someone, good luck.
 

Ditto to the reply of our mutual amigo Don Jose, el gringo de la Mancha - excellent post Orphanannie! :thumbsup:
 

lilorphanannie said:
hi ,i did some research some time ago on the tumacacori area. after going through the piles of pages of information, i usually try to reduce everything down to the factual information ,that can be cross referenced ,from another source, reducing all, to the lowest common demoniator, so to speak. and im going to list here those findings. i have not read any of the posts here ,so something i list here may be redundant, or already disproved. but for what its worth ,i think most of this data is right on. 1)the virgin of guadalupe mine is one league from front door of the temple, to the south 2)from there ,the ojos d ramon (spring) is to the left and 1800 varas to the north. (a vara is a measurement of just over 32 inches) 3)200 varas before reaching the mine there is a black rock with the letters ccdt chiseled under it. 4)20 varas from this rock is a munoment ,facing south. 5)to the west of this mine are two mountains that have been destroyed with black powder so that enormous rocks covered the mouth of the mine. 6)there is a treasure within a 50 vara square ,at the mouth of this mine. 7)directly south and within 3 leagues is a pass called puerto de janos (this means a gap in the mountains ,puerto de janos is a good starting point and can be easily found. 8)just to the south of this pass is an area with 12 arrastras and 12 patios( im guessing everybody knows what they are) 9)there is a mine close by called the imaculate concepcion, its name carved in rock above the entrance. 10)50 varas north of this mine is an arroyo where you will find chunks of virgin silver. (planchas de plata) well known site, currently under claim and being explored by a mining company. the arroyo is located on a ranch in sonora ,mexico ,owners are americans .i believe they run a bed and breakfast of some sort.11)halfway between the virgin of guadalupe mine and the immaculate concepcion mine is the los opatas mine. 12) from the opata mine you will see a long mesa to the east. 13)from the opata mine runs a very large canyon to the west. 14) the ore of the opata mine is lime in nature. this was most probably a placer mine .with placer gold found in caliche(lime layer).15) on the other side of the mountain from the opata mine is the virgin of guadalupe mine. the mine named san pedro is 3 leagues from the mine san isabel. 16)there is a river that runs 1/5 league north of the san pedro mine. 17) the san pedro mine is near some black hills. 18)the san pedro mine is 1.5 leagues from the side of the temple to the west. 19)from the san pedro mine you can see arivaca. maybe someone would like to try to get some topographical maps and piece this information togather. since there are a couple of known points it shouldnt be that hard as far as treasure hunting goes. i hopes this helps someone, good luck.

Try Google Earth. That's what I use to find good access to all of my claims and also to see the roads and find old tailing from past mining in the hills!
 

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