InAustralia.Jones
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- Mar 16, 2016
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The ex porn queen claim of treasure
Amy
WOW! a chest full of hmmmmm!
Jones
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The ex porn queen claim of treasure
Amy
WOW! a chest full of hmmmmm!
Jones
Yes indeed a real chest full of it....
Fabulous 200 Million Dollar Treasure Hoard Unearthed in Cocos Island World News Daily Report
While the joke is that actually she fooled many people.... It belittles a genuine topic.
Amy
"food for thought, are there vital documents or a "Certain Cave"? for the Brave......"
InAustralia.Jones-
Please elaborate on your teaser question!
Thank you in advance.
-JAA
Hello all
TT, if you are ever fortunate enough to come across a 'real' treasure sight, please never ever assume the authorities will be your 'friends'. In Europe it can vary from country to country, in the developing nations, you'd probably be arrested on some trumped-up charge, deported and your find confiscated on 'cultural' grounds. I would hazard a guess that there is no "right" or "wrong" decision(s) to make, simply "safe" ones instead.
There was a case some years back where one of the main ocean exploration crews had to hand over $500,000,000 worth of treasure from a Spanish galleon back to Spain. The fact of the matter is, little guys like us can and will never be able to take-on authorities where there is big money at stake or a score to settle. Little easy to handle jackpots are what will be more 'manageable'. Governments and officials are sometime the worst culprits when it comes to pillaging and keeping artefacts for themselves. You want to know where the best Inca gold and silver collections are?
Not a museum or philanthropic centre but private collections of the rich and wealthy in Lima who show each other such items over their dinner parties.
So many aspects of the art, antiques, artefacts and cultural scene are full of such hypocrisise.
When you find a cache or know where a treasure is, always but always cater for all eventualities. When I was in India the last time around, the local community 'leaders' said to me "pay us and we'll take care of all your permits and problems". You have to adapt to the environment and social norms of the area you are operating in.
The worst thing that can happen is one ends up paying for the faults and mistakes of others.
IPU
You Found It - Well Done!!!
Hint: The Cave for the Brave has an Animals name attached to it!
Jones
Edit 10.12am Friday April 8: J.A.A: your next question would probably be, do i know were it is? Answer: My research hasn't extended that far, and as some people know I stopped researching this topic for quite awhile.
Jones
IPU
Well said friend. The treasure world is a sharks tank I do agree.But what I suggested is exactly to handle such unfair scenariois holding your bargaining chip "Treasure location info" to your chest from the comfort of your home after you leave the country....I also realize as Amy and others suggested , authorities are fed up with false claims of treasure finds to treat such info trading seriously..But what other option do we have when one comes along a treasure find in a cave then?... you are right in Europe mostly it is unfavorable to treasure finders but in the past people have gained from finders reward in UK,and Germany etc...USA is one of the worst places for TH,,you can be even charged with handling abandoned property in some states..maybe in Florida it is better.Latin America and Africa and Asia and many southern and eastern European countries including Russia it is full of corrupted officials I do agree..
TT
TT mate, if you come across a cave full of treasure in a dodgy country that might confiscate your find on spurious grounds, don't worry about how to strike a deal with authorities or any interested parties for a finder's-fee. Put yourself in a position where you can have the resources to plan a 'proper' strike. The immediate priority is to know where and how to exchange some of the goodies. Let's be honest, some pirate, baron, slave-owner, trader, plunderer, pilgrim, miner and a whole host of others that may have deposited the cache, will not be returning centuries later to claim their treasure. It would be impossible to trace any descendants. When it comes to antiquities, this is a complex area and throws up a fair few conundrums. But the gist of my post is this; if you've found a true treasure in a forsaken place through sheer perserverence, hard work and the sweat of you brow, is it fair to claim it?
I would say you've a very strong claim to it.
During the past two years, I've travelled extensively to establish such connections and it has been a real eye-opener. It makes me cringe to think how naive and wet behind the ears I was in thinking and assuming such matters.
Look at the current Panamanian crisis in the news about politicians, industrialists, celebrities and business folk hiding their wealth and ill-gotten gains. It is all a big game of bullshit to these people. You are more likely to come across a genuine person you meet on the street than these predators entrusted with deciding our futures.
You find any treasure, you make sure you benefit from it!!!
IUP
Thanks IUPSure can.
The gold artefacts from that country and neighbouring Costa Rica rivalled, and in most cases, surpassed anything produced in South America.
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https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-HM305_panama_JV_20150318171607.jpg
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http://mcclungmuseum.utk.edu/files/2013/03/PR1.jpg
These are from a location called "Sitio Conte". A river changed course early last century and objects from graves started washing down river and children were found playing with solid gold marbles. The site was excavated in the 1940s but nothing has happened since because the site is on private property.
There was a very rich necropolis between the border of Panama and Colombia that was the target of treasure hunters and in some instances, looters, in the 1940s and 50s. There was hostile natives inhabiting the area so it was very unsafe to explore and search. But many tried and some chaps had spectacular results. There was a book written of the exploits by a fellow called William Le Varre.
In a group of islands - the San Blas - there is rumours of treasure being buried by pirates and buccaneers during their heyday. It is still relatively unexplored and the islands were known and used because of the stable weather in an unstable area. The local natives, Kuna Indians, were said to have knowledge of large gold workings that are being searched for since the days of the Spanish conquistadors. They would barter solid gold nuggets from passing ships and boats for trivial items but never revealed the source. I have some knowledge of a good prospect not far from the pan-American highway in Panama but unfortunately it is situated in a bio-reserve.
Parts of Panama and Costa Rica have yielded enormous amounts of gold as the Spanish missed a few spots there due to the developed cultures having already disappearing by the time of their arrival. It was buried close to the surface and the gold was and is exquisite. Some say that the gold and silver smiths were responsible for exporting their skills and knowledge down the coast into South America. Even though the Spanish were superb experts in pillaging and robbing, there was some spectacular oversights on their part and, believe it or not, some of the largest finds have happened in the last century or so.
One sight in Colombia was discovered by drug mules smuggling things through the jungle!!
Me and EL Crow discussed that one some time ago here on Tnet.
It's only when you walk in the jungle, try and cross a mountain or two, you realise how big the earth is and how diverse its terrain is...
IUP
Thanks Amy,,,strange yarn indeed! Would have been interesting if the maps were known ,,,but it is an old story to know about the maps,,,or maybe if an enquiry is made about the discovery , maybe the maps can be found displayed openly in a forgotten municipal museum of an old town..Tonight I have another treasure puzzle for you
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In-short it tells of a strange discovery of cave in which a crumbling skeleton was found a strange gold ring and very old books and charts dating back to the 16-17th century with notes about buried treasure.
It does give the names of the book and date on ring the latest appears to be 1779 names of persons. Who was this dead buried alive hermit? What secret does he hide?
Another puzzle to solved?
Amy
Hi J.A.A,
What i find interesting is the directions to the treasure location, Jesuits studied, Alchemy, Philosophy, Latin, Astronomy, Greek and so on.... even though the directions have been translated to English
they are still in cryptic form, In the 17th - 19th century Alchemy was commonly used to write messages and give directions.
For example: Hill = direction. Plazuela = place, plaza or square, the Indians is interesting, is it another clue? and so on....
Very Interesting though.
Jones
Tonight I have another treasure puzzle for you
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In-short it tells of a strange discovery of cave in which a crumbling skeleton was found a strange gold ring and very old books and charts dating back to the 16-17th century with notes about buried treasure.
It does give the names of the book and date on ring the latest appears to be 1779 names of persons. Who was this dead buried alive hermit? What secret does he hide?
Another puzzle to solved?
Amy
Thanks for the fun yarn Amy!
As Señor Crow and others here on Tnet have always said, when beginning to research any legend/story such as this one, we have to start by first looking into the names of the players involved and verifying whether or not they ever even existed.
This will be a fun one to fool around with for a bit while my little one goes down for her nap...of course I say this full well knowing that I'LL probably **** my eyes when she does too!
Ah, to be a daddy!
All the best to all!
Justin
PS As I think about it, I've got a hunch that the intelligent young lady who posted this story probably already has more info on it regarding the players involved, timetables, authenticity of the story/treasure itself, etc! How bout it Amy??