The Treasure of El Pensamiento (including Ruminahuis stash)

[Corporate Investigations]

In regards to this alleged discovery.

The locality of Johnsville is called Johnville in New Brunswick Canada. You can see a picture of the sleepy rural hamlet below.



This was the area of the alleged discovery of this mysterious cave?

Amy

 

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[Corporate Investigations]

looking into history of the location of the discovery.

In the mid-19th century, New Brunswick`s Catholic Bishop, John Sweeney, lobbied the colonial government for land for Irish emigrants.

In the early-to-mid 1860s, people began to move to the land granted to Johnville. (Maps indicate that some of the land in the area had been allocated to individuals prior to the establishment of the settlement.) This true as many had been given lots 70 or so year earlier. Loyalists uprooted from the United States after the American war of Independence. You can find a list of men granted land in the New Brunswick list of land petitions by disposed patriots after the war of Independence.


Some residents came from Saint John, while others moved directly from Ireland. For some people, it was their first foray into farming. The Bishop, and successive Priests, worked alongside settlers to clear land, plant crops, and build dwellings. The Hall family built the first frame house, which was used as the church and rectory until the community erected these structures between 1867 and 1884.

The most predominate landmark in this rural area is Moose Mountain. Does it have any significance to our story? Is it the location in cliff face this alleged hidden cave?



Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Now we look at the key players....

First of all the discoverers...." Stewart" With no christian name is makes a challenge. I found no Stewart listed in the Irish catholic settlers from 1867, at the hamlet of Johnville. However the local church conducted a baptism in very same year of this alleged discovery of this cave. The father of this little girl baptized was Josephus Stewart at the church at the church at Johnville.



Was Josephus Stewart the finder of this strange discovery. If so does any of his decedents still have any of the alleged documents he allegedly found?

The baptism record of his daughter in 1906 was in the picture church above.



So was he one of alleged Stewart's that discovered this mysterious cave?

Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

You might recall there was two people called Stewart?

The second Stewart may be the following... James Stewart age 43 in 1891 census listed as a publisher with a wife and two daughters.



Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Next we come to John long, the name on the big ring next to the crumbling skeleton. 4th December 1779.

There was a John Long in archival records: Canada, British Regimental Registers of Service, 1756-1900 for John Long. His unit was the 58 foot soldiers. York regiment.

His birth place was Shannon Cork about 1747.




Record: Below is list of names that Nova Scotia, Canada, Land Petitions, 1765-1800 in Halifax archives of Nova Scotia
Name
Stephen Roberts,
John Balding,
John Andrew Sowers
Timothy Roax
William Lonthers
Nehemiah Marks
William Spencer
Thomas Hailey
James Simmons
Richard Pomery
Sarah Kenney
James Collins
Thomas Hailey
Harriot Pass
Zebedee Hammon
Silas Cummings
James Turner
David Dailey
Andrew Patten
Francis Welsh
William Chaney
James Frost
Moses Sprage
John Roax
David Shields
Daniel Grant
Laughlan McCurdy
Joseph Smith
Morice Kinley
Honor Davis
John Nason
Jonathan Greenlon
Alexander Greenlon
Jane Adams
John Rigby
Andrew Peters
John Dowling
Benjamin Pomeroy
James Stewart
James Mullowny
James Russell
Samuel Trot
John McNichol
Andrew Martin
Finley Malcolm
Timothy Roax
William Linsey
Benjamin Bradford
John Solomon
George Wisely
Matthew Limeburner
Edmund Dogherty
Joab Bragg
Alexander Linkliter
Ebenezer Greenton
John McIntosh
John Bonlar
Patrick Callahorn
William Gammons
Michael Ryan
Edward Ross
John Davis
James Thompson
Dunchan McCochran
John Chaytor
William Redhead
David Fogo
Joseph Crookshanks
James Nicholson
James Stinson
Zebedee Linnikin
John Dogget
Balthazer Stikely
Dugal Thompson
William Cookson
William Stewart
John Hewey
Nathan Phillips
Thomas Bell
John Liffy
William Gallop
Jeremiah Pote
Daniel Leman
Thomas Wyer
David Arnolt
Robert Muncur
Amos Hitchins
Hugh Lemmy
John Jones
David Wyer
Thomas Brown
Moses Gerrish
William Vial
William Towers
Colin Campbell
Thomas Phillips
David Hill
William Gammons
John Paga
Henry Ross
James Hannah
John Bean
James Wardell
Petter Wallet
Matthew Thornton
William Swain
Moses Bernard
Samuel Twiner
John Curry
Daniel Brown
Nathaniel Bailey
Benjamin Millikin
Robinson Cracker
Benjamin Millikin
William Pagan
David Eastman
Robery Pagan
James Dorty
Ralph
Taylor
Samuel Kelly
George Dawson
Israel Andrews
Colin Campbell
James Phillips
William Anstruthers
John Hall
George Smoose
Ephraim Farnan
John Sightens Parker
John Yearton
Jacob Young
Gallam Taylor
William Parr
Matthew Scallion
Ludovick Hildebrand
Hyrenemus Riter
Charles Duphmack
Robert Sims
John Ficker
Peter Littlejohn
James Bronn
Thomas Pagan
Frederick Bulkely
John Carlon
John Quantum
Donald McLean
John Andrews
Nicholas Turner
William More
Robert McArthur
Robert Pagan
Rebecca Eldridge
Thomas Littlejohn
Stinson Stewart
Hugh McLeod
Samuel Little
James Chaffey
Robert Varden
George Gun
David Mowat
James Scot
John Gillis
Thomas Ross
Francis Shipton
John Taylor
John Frazer
Daniel McMasters
Richard Major
Nathaniel Hayley
William Morris
John Dunn
Alfred Butler
James Joice
Thomas Twiner
Thomas Morris
John Calf
Archibald Murphy
John Crawford
Alexander Morrison
John Mullowny
Humphrey McAshlong
John Dixon
John Trot
Martin Carlon
John Shields
Isabella Roice
Charles Morris
John Long
William Curry


You will see two names of interest. John Long and James Stewart. Is the Stewart's who found the Skeleton of John Long descended from the James Stewart on the above list of loyalist who made claims for land?

wishes for the appointment of Land Waiter and Gauger for Passamaquoddy. Granted 190 farm lots of 100 acres; 19 000 total. The lot that John Long had was 100 acres this was before the hamlet of Joneville in 1867 existed. This land was granted in 1784 as payment of service in the revolutionary war. Many did not take up their lots due to various reasons. John Long must of taken his......



Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

And now we check out the books here is a little mystery as it seems The names of in Latin book 1 Suetonius " The History of Rome" There seems no book written by this author. So most like a 17th century reproduction of a much older work with a different title.



Gaius Suetonius Tranquillus was probably born in Italy at about 69 AD, a date deduced from his remarks describing himself as a "young man" twenty years after Nero's death. It is certain that Suetonius came from a family of moderate social position, that his father, Suetonius Laetus,was a tribune of equestrian rank (tribunus angusticlavius) in the Thirteenth Legion, and that Suetonius was educated when schools of rhetoric flourished in Rome.

Suetonius was a close friend of senator and letter-writer Pliny the Younger. Pliny describes him as "quiet and studious, a man dedicated to writing." Pliny helped him buy a small property and interceded with the Emperor Trajan to grant Suetonius immunities usually granted to a father of three, the ius trium liberorum, because his marriage was childless. Through Pliny, Suetonius came into favour with Trajan and Hadrian. Suetonius may have served on Pliny’s staff when Pliny was Proconsul of Bithynia Pontus (northern Asia Minor) between 110 and 112. Under Trajan he served as secretary of studies (precise functions are uncertain) and director of Imperial archives. Under Hadrian, he became the Emperor's secretary. But, in 119, Hadrian dismissed Suetonius for the latter's allegedly excessive intimacy with the empress Sabina.

What function this alleged book had with alleged treasure story is uncertain at this stage if any?

Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

The clue we have with this Latin book is names given inside the cover...

Two names are there.

A B Strong Oxford College 24th of May 1676.

James Hayward 1685.

After a fairly extensive search I could just not identify A B Strong.

However Oxford College 24th of May 1676, was good clue of where to look and what archival files to search for.. Nothing....

But for James Heyward 1685 I discovered he might have a family connection to a family in the United States?

The book if somehow relevant was you must probably experience during your schooling a years a text boot. the Name A B strong was the student before in the 24th of May 1676. The next student to have this book was James Hayward 1685. Both must of studied at Oxford.

There is a James Heyward who died in Canada in 1690. was he the James Heyward of the book?

We do no know for sure as many names of people in the before 18th century was not accurately recorded. Interesting enough there is a James Heyward recorded having died on 26 Jan 1689/1690, Bridgewater, Plymouth, MA .

Interesting enough he might be an decedent of the pilgrim fathers who traveled to the United States on the Mayflower?

Pilgrims is a name commonly applied to early settlers of the Plymouth Colony in present-day Plymouth, Massachusetts, United States, with the men commonly called Pilgrim Fathers. The Pilgrims' leadership came from the religious congregations of Brownist English Dissenters who had fled the volatile political environment in England for the relative calm and tolerance of 16th–17th century Holland in the Netherlands. The Pilgrims held similar Calvinist religious beliefs to the Puritans but, unlike many Puritans, maintained that their congregations needed to be separated from the English state church. As a separatist group, they were also concerned that they might lose their English cultural identity if they emigrated to the Netherlands, so they arranged with English investors to establish a new colony in North America. The colony was established in 1620 and became the second successful English settlement in North America (after the founding of Jamestown, Virginia in 1607). The Pilgrims' story of seeking religious freedom has become a central theme of the history and culture of the United States.

His father may of been a successful pilgrim and his son sent to Oxford England to study? Hence the name in the Text book.

That of course takes us explore later decedents of the family in Plymouth MA?

Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Then we look at the relevance of the Latin Book 2 "Senecas tragedies 1659"




Lucius Annaeus Seneca (often known as Seneca the Younger or simply Seneca /ˈsɛnɪkə/; c. 4 BC – AD 65) was a Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, and in one work humorist, of the Silver Age of Latin literature.

He was a tutor and later advisor to emperor Nero. While he was forced to commit suicide for alleged complicity in the Pisonian conspiracy to assassinate Nero, some sources state that he may have been innocent.[1][2] His father was Seneca the Elder, his elder brother was Lucius Junius Gallio Annaeanus, and his nephew was the poet Lucan.

Once again we are not sure how relevant this book is to our treasure hunt?

Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Finally we look at this English book version of English book 3 " The memoirs of Cardinal de Retz"

Jean François Paul de Gondi, cardinal de Retz (September 29, 1613 – August 24, 1679) was a French churchman, writer of memoirs, and agitator in the Fronde.

The Florentine banking family of the Gondi had been introduced into France by Catherine de' Medici; Catherine offered Jérome (Girolamo) de Gondi in 1573 the château that he made the nucleus of the Château de Saint-Cloud; his hôtel in the Faubourg Saint-Germain of Paris became the Hôtel de Condé in the following generation. The Gondi acquired great estates in Brittany and became connected with the noblest houses of the kingdom.

Retz received no preferment of importance during Cardinal Richelieu's life. Even after the minister's death, though he was presented to Louis XIII and well received, he found difficulty in attaining the co-adjutorship with reversion of the archbishopric of Paris. But almost immediately after the king's death, Anne of Austria appointed him to the coveted post on All Saints Eve, 1643. Retz, who had, according to some accounts, already plotted against Richelieu, set himself to work to make the utmost political capital out of his position. His uncle had lived in great seclusion; Retz, on the contrary, gradually acquired a very great influence with the populace of the city. This influence he gradually turned against Cardinal Mazarin, which helped lead to the outbreak of the Fronde in October 1648.[2]

Of the two parties who joined the Fronde, Retz could only depend on the bourgeoisie of Paris. He had some speculative tendencies in favour of popular liberties, and even perhaps of republicanism, but represented no real political principle, which inevitably weakened his position. When the breakup of the Fronde came he was left in the lurch, having more than once been in no small danger from his own party. However, because of a misapprehension on the part of Pope Innocent X, he had been made cardinal.

In 1652, he was arrested and imprisoned, first at Vincennes, then at Nantes; he escaped after two years, and traveled through Europe. He went to Rome more than once, and helped elect Pope Alexander VII. In 1662, Louis XIV received him back into favor, and asked him to formally serve as envoy to Rome several times. In order for this reconciliation to occur, he resigned his claims to the archbishopric of Paris. He was appointed abbot of St-Denis, and restored to his other benefices with the payment of arrears.





The last seventeen years of Retz's life were passed partly in his diplomatic duties (he was again in Rome at the papal conclaves of 1667 and 1669, partly in Paris, partly at his estate of Cornmercy, but mostly at St. Mihiel in Lorraine. His debts were enormous, and in 1675 he made over to his creditors all his income except twenty thousand livres, and, as he said, to "live for" them. He did not succeed in living very long, however, for he died at Paris on 24 August 1679. During these last years he corresponded with Madame de Sévigné, a relative by marriage.





During the last ten years of his life, Retz wrote his Memoirs, which go up to the year 1655. They are addressed in the form of narrative to a lady who is not known, though guesses have been made at her identity, some even suggesting Madame de Sévigné herself. In the beginning there are some gaps. They are known for their narrative skill and the verbal portraits of their characters. Alexandre Dumas, père drew heavily on the Memoirs for Vingt ans après. Besides these memoirs and the youthful essay of the Conjuration de Fiesque, Retz has left diplomatic papers, sermons, Mazarinades and correspondence.

Retz and François de La Rochefoucauld, the greatest of the Frondeurs in literary genius, were personal and political enemies, and each left a portrait of the other. De la Rochefoucauld wrote of Retz: "Il a suscité les plus grands désordres dans l'état sans avoir un dessein formé de s'en prévaloir." (He caused the greatest disorder to the State, without having formed a plan of how he would prevail).

The Memoirs of the cardinal de Retz were first published in a very imperfect condition in 1717. The first satisfactory edition appeared in the twenty-fourth volume of the collection of Joseph François Michaud and Jean Joseph François Poujoulat (Paris, 1836). In 1870 a complete edition of the works of Retz was begun by Alphonse Feillet in the collection of Grands Ecrivains.

Are these 3 books a clue or incidental objects found in the cave/ We do no know for sure at this stage.

However as you can see for this little exercise we have extracted much information to have a much better idea of the source of this alleged treasure. the key aspect is the last players in this story as evience point to wealth perhaps taken from a prominent family in Plymouth during the American War of Independence.

The key is if we can confirm the family connection of Heywards and the family descendants of Stewards? That we might just uncover very interesting document in regards to hidden treasure from the American War of Independence.

How cool is that?

Amy

 

[tintin_treasure]

Finally we look at this English book version of English book 3 " The memoirs of Cardinal de Retz"

Jean François Paul de Gondi, cardinal de Retz (September 29, 1613 – August 24, 1679) was a French churchman, writer of memoirs, and agitator in the Fronde.

The Florentine banking family of the Gondi had been introduced into France by Catherine de' Medici; Catherine offered Jérome (Girolamo) de Gondi in 1573 the château that he made the nucleus of the Château de Saint-Cloud; his hôtel in the Faubourg Saint-Germain of Paris became the Hôtel de Condé in the following generation. The Gondi acquired great estates in Brittany and became connected with the noblest houses of the kingdom.

Retz received no preferment of importance during Cardinal Richelieu's life. Even after the minister's death, though he was presented to Louis XIII and well received, he found difficulty in attaining the co-adjutorship with reversion of the archbishopric of Paris. But almost immediately after the king's death, Anne of Austria appointed him to the coveted post on All Saints Eve, 1643. Retz, who had, according to some accounts, already plotted against Richelieu, set himself to work to make the utmost political capital out of his position. His uncle had lived in great seclusion; Retz, on the contrary, gradually acquired a very great influence with the populace of the city. This influence he gradually turned against Cardinal Mazarin, which helped lead to the outbreak of the Fronde in October 1648.[2]

Of the two parties who joined the Fronde, Retz could only depend on the bourgeoisie of Paris. He had some speculative tendencies in favour of popular liberties, and even perhaps of republicanism, but represented no real political principle, which inevitably weakened his position. When the breakup of the Fronde came he was left in the lurch, having more than once been in no small danger from his own party. However, because of a misapprehension on the part of Pope Innocent X, he had been made cardinal.

In 1652, he was arrested and imprisoned, first at Vincennes, then at Nantes; he escaped after two years, and traveled through Europe. He went to Rome more than once, and helped elect Pope Alexander VII. In 1662, Louis XIV received him back into favor, and asked him to formally serve as envoy to Rome several times. In order for this reconciliation to occur, he resigned his claims to the archbishopric of Paris. He was appointed abbot of St-Denis, and restored to his other benefices with the payment of arrears.

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The last seventeen years of Retz's life were passed partly in his diplomatic duties (he was again in Rome at the papal conclaves of 1667 and 1669, partly in Paris, partly at his estate of Cornmercy, but mostly at St. Mihiel in Lorraine. His debts were enormous, and in 1675 he made over to his creditors all his income except twenty thousand livres, and, as he said, to "live for" them. He did not succeed in living very long, however, for he died at Paris on 24 August 1679. During these last years he corresponded with Madame de Sévigné, a relative by marriage.



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During the last ten years of his life, Retz wrote his Memoirs, which go up to the year 1655. They are addressed in the form of narrative to a lady who is not known, though guesses have been made at her identity, some even suggesting Madame de Sévigné herself. In the beginning there are some gaps. They are known for their narrative skill and the verbal portraits of their characters. Alexandre Dumas, père drew heavily on the Memoirs for Vingt ans après. Besides these memoirs and the youthful essay of the Conjuration de Fiesque, Retz has left diplomatic papers, sermons, Mazarinades and correspondence.

Retz and François de La Rochefoucauld, the greatest of the Frondeurs in literary genius, were personal and political enemies, and each left a portrait of the other. De la Rochefoucauld wrote of Retz: "Il a suscité les plus grands désordres dans l'état sans avoir un dessein formé de s'en prévaloir." (He caused the greatest disorder to the State, without having formed a plan of how he would prevail).

The Memoirs of the cardinal de Retz were first published in a very imperfect condition in 1717. The first satisfactory edition appeared in the twenty-fourth volume of the collection of Joseph François Michaud and Jean Joseph François Poujoulat (Paris, 1836). In 1870 a complete edition of the works of Retz was begun by Alphonse Feillet in the collection of Grands Ecrivains.

Are these 3 books a clue or incidental objects found in the cave/ We do no know for sure at this stage.

However as you can see for this little exercise we have extracted much information to have a much better idea of the source of this alleged treasure. the key aspect is the last players in this story as evience point to wealth perhaps taken from a prominent family in Plymouth during the American War of Independence.

The key is if we can confirm the family connection of Heywards and the family descendants of Stewards? That we might just uncover very interesting document in regards to hidden treasure from the American War of Independence.

How cool is that?

Amy

Very impressive indeed Amy! That is quite cool!
TT

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Incidentally the there was a patriot in Brigewater Plymouth called James Heywood was he the son or Grandson of James Heywood in the book. Did loyalists John Long, James steward was involved in looting the plantation owned by James Heywood? Was the gold and silver ingots hidden around the district of Plymouth centered around Bridgewater by them and the maps in books taken to New Brunswick after the American war of Independence?

The following 1716 map shows James H, haywood name cut off on the map below but does show the plantation. The size of the plantation was 1752 acres. It not beyond a realms of impossibility that James Heywood family amassed a sizable fortune.



Amy

 

[Corporate Investigations]

And thus I could continue as I have been in contact with decedents today who still live in region. As for the alleged maps and book they wood of passed from Steward family of New Brunswick after the discovery of this cave in 1906. Did they ever make a trip back to Bridgewater Plymouth to search for the buried plunder?

However the whole object of these posts was highlight what ever the treasure legend be it Pensiemento story or the Sacambaya story or whatever is. All the above research was done few days at leisure. Which can be done by anyone. The power to change their own destiny is in front of them if only they try to use it.

Amy

 

[mdog]

And thus I could continue as I have been in contact with decedents today who still live in region. As for the alleged maps and book they wood of passed from Steward family of New Brunswick after the discovery of this cave in 1906. Did they ever make a trip back to Bridgewater Plymouth to search for the buried plunder?

However the whole object of these posts was highlight what ever the treasure legend be it Pensiemento story or the Sacambaya story or whatever is. All the above research was done few days at leisure. Which can be done by anyone. The power to change their own destiny is in front of them if only they try to use it.

Amy

I have some questions for you, Amy, about the tools you use in your research. In the example of the research you just gave, did you find everything free online or did you have to purchase some type of research service? Also, when you get in touch with a descendent, is it better to call or write? I have not had any luck writing but I'm not sure how a call would be received. I don't want to irritate somebody to the point where information would not be given. How do you get in touch. Thanks, Amy.

Rick

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Hello Rick

In answer to your question a bit of both. Ideally you get as much as you can get for free. However there comes a time you may need to subscribe to a data base to obtain records in that data base. Online genealogical forums are good for information. Free online newspapers. National library online data bases, historical societies one line data bases. The subscribe online data services to avoid is pay per view. As you may end up paying to view many records not even applicable to your search.

As for approaching descendants there is no easy answer,? Some you will succeed with, while others have no interest or treat you if phishing for bank details. The last thing you want to do is come across as a treasure hunter as the media and Hollywood has created negative stereotypes in the public image these days. The trouble is the person does not know you and if you push too hard it can have a negative effect. They do not know if your some axe wielding psychopath? So a bit of polite charm goes a long way. The best attempt is contact via email providing some relevant family data to them. If they have an interest in family history they will want to know more. The more they become comfortably conversing on that topic, the easier it may be to bring up the topic of a historical treasure in connection of their family history story you want to find out. The old tag line is of course your researching all this in hoping to develop a book.

Amy

 

[mdog]

Hello Amy,

Thank you very much for the information. I will use the tips you gave me to guide my research efforts. The genealogical forums could prove helpful in the research I'm doing for the Treasure Mountain thread. There are a lot of names to check out.

I have an advantage when I contact people. I've been researching an old trade trail for the past several years and people are curious and helpful when they know you are trying to solve an historical mystery. It's also surprising how many people bring up treasure related information without being asked.

Thanks again.

Rick

 

[Loke]

@Amy,
Excellent work (as usual) - I'm lapping it all up! Not because it is within my sphere of interest, I am just admiring your methods and know-how :-) ... hoping some of it may rub off!

 

[Hitndahed]

WOW,,, !!!!!

I think I have finally met the woman of my dreams.
Intelligent, articulated and educated,,

You uhhhh,,,, wanna get married?
AWESOME WORK AMY !!!!

The "threesome" should be honored to have you on their team.
I surely would be.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Hitndahed, you are too late, she married an x football player earlier this year in Europe, which the unholy trio attended.

Don"t feel bad,I didn't receive an invitation either.

 

[Corporate Investigations]

Hitndahed, you are too late, she married an x football player earlier this year in Europe, which the unholy trio attended.

Don"t feel bad,I didn't receive an invitation either.

hmmm Don Jose If I had I would have to had put you in the Naughty Corner with the Trio?

Amy

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

sigh, true amy true. Heres to a long, happy, married life., I've had 58 years so far, going for 90..