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[traveller777]

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I bought this at a flea market a couple years ago. My first thought was that it was from 1895 because right there on the bottom it says, “November 30 1895. I did a little research on the distillery and found out that because of The Prohibition Act of 1920, the company doors were closed and bottles were broken. So, that helped confirm the date. Then, I researched the diamond with numbers inside. This indicates it was made by the Illinois Glass Company, Alton, Illinois (1873-1929). Then I found this article taken from Bottles and Extras Winter 2005, “The Dating Game” by Bill Lockhart, Bill Lindsey, David Whitten, and Carol Serr.

“Numbers in a Diamond (1911-1929)
The diamond mark with numbers inside was probably first used in connection with whiskey bottles. Illinois glass company was issued and Owens machine license on June 10, 1910 to make whiskey bottles. Actual production of bottles, however, did not begin until the following year (1911). Therefore, 1911 is the first year for the use of the diamond mark with internal numbers. “


Okay. So, that changed my mind about the date. I was still curious. My dad and I went to a center where there is a large display of Hayner Distillery. On the walls are panels stating the history of the company. My eye picked up on this section because of the date, November 30, 1897. I found that a little coincidental.

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So, I have a guys email address to see if he can sort it out for me. What do you guys think?

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[traveller777]

Here's what it's like trying to navigate going to the barn.
2 winters ago we had a propane truck slide inches from the garage corner.
So we installed big rocks to slow the sliding vehicles.
While building the roofing company jack knived his Ford 350 and a 20ft trailer on the slope.
Interesting morning of recovery with winches 4x4 tractor.
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Be careful on that ice. Easy to take a fall.

 

[JVA5th]

Well said, young man. And thank you for saying it so. I agree , except most times I don’t voice my opinion, I just let it go. Lost a very dear relationship over similar disagreement. Years later, the issue is still out there, nothing I have said has changed it. Exercising my right hasn’t changed it. But I (we) have lost a lifetime over it.

Still I think one shouldn't be afraid to state an opinion. I think it's important to voice one's self. I didn't agree with one person on here but just because that doesn't mean I do not respect said person or wish for said person to not be part of the group. Still someone I'd talk to and still hope said person would talk here. The argument is done we all know how we feel about all that's left to do is move on from it. We said are piece on said subject since we won't agree you just drop it and move on.

 

[JVA5th]

Good morning everyone, hope you're all doing well and having a good day.

 

[RustyRelics]

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I bought this at a flea market a couple years ago. My first thought was that it was from 1895 because right there on the bottom it says, “November 30 1895. I did a little research on the distillery and found out that because of The Prohibition Act of 1920, the company doors were closed and bottles were broken. So, that helped confirm the date. Then, I researched the diamond with numbers inside. This indicates it was made by the Illinois Glass Company, Alton, Illinois (1873-1929). Then I found this article taken from Bottles and Extras Winter 2005, “The Dating Game” by Bill Lockhart, Bill Lindsey, David Whitten, and Carol Serr.

“Numbers in a Diamond (1911-1929)
The diamond mark with numbers inside was probably first used in connection with whiskey bottles. Illinois glass company was issued and Owens machine license on June 10, 1910 to make whiskey bottles. Actual production of bottles, however, did not begin until the following year (1911). Therefore, 1911 is the first year for the use of the diamond mark with internal numbers. “


Okay. So, that changed my mind about the date. I was still curious. My dad and I went to a center where there is a large display of Hayner Distillery. On the walls are panels stating the history of the company. My eye picked up on this section because of the date, November 30, 1897. I found that a little coincidental.

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So, I have a guys email address to see if he can sort it out for me. What do you guys think?

The bottle dates from around the 1911-1915 era, pre prohibition. Sometimes old molds were used for newer products, or old designs with new features were used. Not a lot was ever uniform back then.

 

[traveller777]

Good morning everyone, hope you're all doing well and having a good day.

Morning, JV. I hope you have a sunny California day.

 

[JVA5th]

Morning, JV. I hope you have a sunny California day.

Thank you Traveller, hope you have a nice day too.

 

[traveller777]

Thank you Traveller, hope you have a nice day too.

Nice day here. Suppose to snow tonight but near 60 today. Working on honey do list. I am going to take her pencil away from her.

 

[JVA5th]

Nice day here. Suppose to snow tonight but near 60 today. Working on honey do list. I am going to take her pencil away from her.

Lol. A thing I currently don't have to deal with in my life. 60 sound nice, supposed to be a nice day here in Cali. Had a light freeze last night I feel bad for farmers here trees bloomed out early from a string of really warm days and then it froze on the blooms. Hopefully was long enough of a freeze to do much.

 

[traveller777]

Lol. A thing I currently don't have to deal with in my life. 60 sound nice, supposed to be a nice day here in Cali. Had a light freeze last night I feel bad for farmers here trees bloomed out early from a string of really warm days and then it froze on the blooms. Hopefully was long enough of a freeze to do much.

Still early so hopefully they will recover. Farmers have enough troubles now days.

 

[JVA5th]

Still early so hopefully they will recover. Farmers have enough troubles now days.

Yeah they do, especially here in California. A lot of farmers here are little guys and California cities bully the hell out of them along with their corporate buddies that try to force everyone out and buy us out. Everything is so expensive you can hardly make it as a little farmer these days here in Cali. My family is giving our 20 acres up soon. My grandmother owns the land and got dementia real bad and her caretaking costs so much that finally broke the back of my family trying to keep it going. Makes me sad but life goes that way sometimes

 

[releventchair]

Yeah they do, especially here in California. A lot of farmers here are little guys and California cities bully the hell out of them along with their corporate buddies that try to force everyone out and buy us out. Everything is so expensive you can hardly make it as a little farmer these days here in Cali. My family is giving our 20 acres up soon. My grandmother owns the land and got dementia real bad and her caretaking costs so much that finally broke the back of my family trying to keep it going. Makes me sad but life goes that way sometimes

I liked your post to acknowledge it. But don't like your post for the position your family is in. I feel for ya's.

Costs are outrageous though , I agree with that for sure.

 

[traveller777]

Yeah they do, especially here in California. A lot of farmers here are little guys and California cities bully the hell out of them along with their corporate buddies that try to force everyone out and buy us out. Everything is so expensive you can hardly make it as a little farmer these days here in Cali. My family is giving our 20 acres up soon. My grandmother owns the land and got dementia real bad and her caretaking costs so much that finally broke the back of my family trying to keep it going. Makes me sad but life goes that way sometimes

I am sorry young man and yes it goes that way sometimes. Does not make it any easier. But we have to keep plugging along and hopefully better days ahead. I believe there will be for you. You are a sharp young man. And you are right on the big corporations, It is all about the money, boys.

 

[releventchair]

Mornin all.
3.5 maybe 4 inches of snow overnight.
Got both doors cleared outside and a place for the dogs.
Far to go yet.
Should break the freezing mark this weekend.

Groceries on the agenda.
Got the ladyfriend in the truck to ride along on some running yesterday.
Her leg got too annoying to wait for me to hit the store. So we didn't...

Sun giving longer days here now.
Almost the cusp of spring.
Have a great day!

 

[JVA5th]

Mornin all.
3.5 maybe 4 inches of snow overnight.
Got both doors cleared outside and a place for the dogs.
Far to go yet.
Should break the freezing mark this weekend.

Groceries on the agenda.
Got the ladyfriend in the truck to ride along on some running yesterday.
Her leg got too annoying to wait for me to hit the store. So we didn't...

Sun giving longer days here now.
Almost the cusp of spring.
Have a great day!

May spring and nice sunny days be there soon for you.

 

[traveller777]

Mornin all.
3.5 maybe 4 inches of snow overnight.
Got both doors cleared outside and a place for the dogs.
Far to go yet.
Should break the freezing mark this weekend.

Groceries on the agenda.
Got the ladyfriend in the truck to ride along on some running yesterday.
Her leg got too annoying to wait for me to hit the store. So we didn't...

Sun giving longer days here now.
Almost the cusp of spring.
Have a great day!

Goos morning. Yes, Spring around the corner. You need to be careful out there on ice and snow. And yes, love the longer days.

 

[pepperj]

Nice day here. Suppose to snow tonight but near 60 today. Working on honey do list. I am going to take her pencil away from her.

I counted 80 items/projects.
One is listed as finish painting the trim.

Easy to say 16 doors both sides=32 sides prime and 2 coats of paint = 106 doors sides. Then there's the trim.
Should be a law about to-do-lists.
An outright ban-now I do believe that the State Of California could have something that would protect one's health from the lists.🤣

 

[WannaDig3687]

The bottle dates from around the 1911-1915 era, pre prohibition. Sometimes old molds were used for newer products, or old designs with new features were used. Not a lot was ever uniform back then.

Thank you both.

 

[releventchair]

Here in California the central valley is a conservative stronghold. We farm and provide that part of the economy yet the cities vote blue and wreck us with regulations and tax the living hell out of us. Not because they care about anything but because they want to break the small guys so the huge corporations can buy us out. If you look at land maps a handful of people own most plots and slowly taking more and more. They slowly starve you out. Makes me sad my grandparents came from nothing and worked hard to gain this house build their home here and a successful life. Now it's ending, though I understand all things must come to an end but not an easy pill to follow. For awhile I had a lot of scorn for part of my family wanting to sell but I was just frustrated with the situation.

Far from your your costs of living and competition, I've kicked around ideas of how to make some money in a niche market.
Lavender for example.
A friend grows hooter/M.J. but I was not interested in that. Defending a site is bad enough. But the legal hoops to jump through are another .

Family farms have something to offer.
One thing is a nucleus not found in corporate operations.
Chickens for example.
When factories lose thier hybrids , where do they get stock to replace them from?
Bird flue was found in a small flock not far away recently.
That hits a major farm/industry , a reset will be needed.
Meanwhile the backyard and small producers are restricted as to how they can sell. Rather than have a supportive co-op.
A co-op can apply to many endeavors.

But when we've gone from a third of Americans involved in agriculture to around 4 percent.... Then deduct corporate farms from the count , the tiny minority left are left vulnerable. That count is not likely to gain among the minority of small farms.
How could it?
Start up costs prohibit jumping in.
Costs of smaller amounts of needed supplies are not discounted.
This coming spring fertilizer is forecast (I'm not sure how accurately) to not only be at higher cost, but in short supply.
And weed killer (I'm no fan but understand a use) , like Gly or generic gly is if I recall right around a hundred dollars a gallon. A tremendous jump in price.

New tractor? Egads. Yet despite the serious expense , of late they are not always in stock. At least good ones. Around here some folks have ordered one and waited. And waited.

A new silo? Ouch.
Labor?
Distribution?
- $$$$$. In exchange for a gamble.
Outbuilding? Polebarn bids from last year and builders now reconnecting with buyers are having to announce the material cost increases.
One guy was quoted 350% higher costs than his original quote!!!!!!!

But crops can't wait when it is planting or harvest time. Let alone in between times.
Nor can livestock.

A couple friends were raised on a dairy farm.
One lives there still and another nearby.
The one who works on tractors at his place for income has painted hundreds. Plus repairs.
We've discussed our days of milking cows and he reassures me he don't miss it.
I though , had the money and benefits been decent would rather have continued to work with stock than with people...
Same with scratching in the dirt.
But the big outfits competed differently and ran things differently and had practices we didn't agree with as far as stock treatment.
Yes some things were more efficient. Unnatural maybe , but pennies count to the bean counters.

Disjointed rant over. For now.

 

[RustyRelics]

Has anyone heard about the "Ghost of Kyviv"? It's unconfirmed, but supposedly a Ukrainian fighter pilot has shot down six Russian planes.