The Questions LRLers Refuse to Answer

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Hi Judy;

Those weren't opinions. Once enough irrefutable proof is presented, they become a diagnosis. They then become self fulfilling and self perpetuating. The rabbit hole can be very deep. Go ask Alice.


Any chance someone was a little man and did a Sho-Nuff test? Let me guess. NO!!! Taking action would go against the profile.
 

~EE THr~
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you
?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art
 

JudyH said:
The "Topic" is your questions.

My replies have been about your questions.

Just because you don't accept my answers, doesn't mean they are not valid and on topic.


1. You have neither an LRL nor electronics knowledge.
2. Therefore you have no way to have answer to the questions.
3. The questions are very simple, so they don't need to be sick-o-analysed.

In your wannabe sick-iartist way, you seem to have a need to infer that anyone who doesn't "believe" in the pseudoscience of LRLs, has various types of mental disorders.

News Flash: We are discussing reality here, not fantasies of a wayward amateur sick-ologist.

You, rather than discussing the topic, try to tear it apart, by diverting from reality, to the abstract, then manipulating that abstract (which is easy to do because the ideas, by definition, do not deal with reality), then you try to convert your twisted abstractions back into some "other" reality.

All this, rather than simply answer the basic questions. But then they are not addressed to you, anyway, so all you are doing is diverting the topic off into your never-never land, where, as you have indicated, nothing is real for you. And that follows the definition of an Internet Troll, as seen in Wikipedia, as follows.

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

:sign13:



JudyH said:
You are not an LRL user either. If not being a user disqualifies me from answering your questions....then your not being a user disqualifies you from asking them.


You and I have gone through that before, a couple of times. I'm not jumping through that hoop again.



:nono:
 

aarthrj3811 said:
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art


I do have a toilet plunger, an old battery charger and a non-working outboard motor.

Will those find treasure ? I guess I should try first before I discount them though. Wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions, right ?
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE THr~
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you
?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art


Now your talking about dowsing.

The topic is LRLs.

Get on topic.

Answer the questions, or admit that your LRLs can't pass the test.


:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

EE THr said:
EddieR said:
Now you can quote that post that I asked you to earlier....or were you making that up?

By the way, what type of LRL do you have? What brand, model, etc?


What post are you referring to?

You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you?


:coffee2:

Do you not read the posts? I asked you to post a quote from post(s) to validate your claim that LRL users say "trust us to be telling you the truth" (your words). Now...please post the quote or.....admit you just made it up.

So....you don't even HAVE a LRL? You are arguing whether they work or not and don't even have one??????? Well....your arguments are disqualified.


No experience = no knowledge
 

~EE THr~
Quote
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you
?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art
~EE THr`~

Now your talking about dowsing.
The topic is LRLs.
Get on topic.
Did I say anything about Dowsing ? If you don’t want to buy a LRL you do not need to..Simple as that if you want to learn anything..Art
 

EddieR said:
EE THr said:
EddieR said:
Now you can quote that post that I asked you to earlier....or were you making that up?

By the way, what type of LRL do you have? What brand, model, etc?


What post are you referring to?

You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you?


:coffee2:

Do you not read the posts? I asked you to post a quote from post(s) to validate your claim that LRL users say "trust us to be telling you the truth" (your words). Now...please post the quote or.....admit you just made it up.

So....you don't even HAVE a LRL? You are arguing whether they work or not and don't even have one??????? Well....your arguments are disqualified.

No experience = no knowledge


Yes, I read the posts, but apparently you do not. All of the tales of supposed treasure finds, home "tests," and supposed testimonials are usually accompanied by statements that these are "proof," and thus that we should believe them.

Get some common sense, Edith!

Are you knowledgeable in electronics? Can you give a Theory of Operation run-through on either of the LRL schematics that have been posted by SWR, and explain how they transmit and receive, and which of the components therein perform what functions that contribute to that?

If not, then you have no way of knowing if the LRLs are electronically operated, or are, at best, dowsing devices, do you? So how can you comment on them, if you don't even know what they are?




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

JudyH said:
EE THr said:
JudyH said:
The "Topic" is your questions.

My replies have been about your questions.

Just because you don't accept my answers, doesn't mean they are not valid and on topic.


1. You have neither an LRL nor electronics knowledge.
2. Therefore you have no way to have answer to the questions.
3. The questions are very simple, so they don't need to be sick-o-analysed.

In your wannabe sick-iartist way, you seem to have a need to infer that anyone who doesn't "believe" in the pseudoscience of LRLs, has various types of mental disorders.

News Flash: We are discussing reality here, not fantasies of a wayward amateur sick-ologist.

You, rather than discussing the topic, try to tear it apart, by diverting from reality, to the abstract, then manipulating that abstract (which is easy to do because the ideas, by definition, do not deal with reality), then you try to convert your twisted abstractions back into some "other" reality.

All this, rather than simply answer the basic questions. But then they are not addressed to you, anyway, so all you are doing is diverting the topic off into your never-never land, where, as you have indicated, nothing is real for you. And that follows the definition of an Internet Troll, as seen in Wikipedia, as follows.

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

:sign13:



JudyH said:
You are not an LRL user either. If not being a user disqualifies me from answering your questions....then your not being a user disqualifies you from asking them.


You and I have gone through that before, a couple of times. I'm not jumping through that hoop again.



:nono:





Actually, Darling....I haven't said anyone should believe in LRLs, nor have I said they shouldn't.

And the only thing I have said about Reality is that you can't ignore part of it and call what's left the "Real Reality". That's called Cognitive Dissonance. Look it up...you might find out something about yourself.

I have no electronics knowledge, eh? :laughing7:

So.....now, let me see if I have this right. Now, you say I have to be either an LRL user or an electronics engineer in order to just "qualify" for the honor of answering the questions in the first place. Thennnn...I have to make sure I confine my answers to your definition(s) of acceptable.

Have I got it right now? ;D



If you don't know anything about LRLs, and you don't know anything about electronics (which they claim to be), then what can you possibly contribute to the topic?
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE THr~
Quote
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you
?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art
~EE THr`~

Now your talking about dowsing.
The topic is LRLs.
Get on topic.
Did I say anything about Dowsing ? If you don’t want to buy a LRL you do not need to..Simple as that if you want to learn anything..Art



I can learn all I need to from the pictures of the devices and the junk stuffed inside, the schematics that couldn't possibly do anything, the pseudoscience jibberish from the LRL promoters, the behavior of the LRL promoters that continues to follow the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists, and the fact that all of you are deathly afraid of Carl's double-blind test!




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

~EE THr`
I can learn all I need to from the pictures of the devices and the junk stuffed inside, the schematics that couldn't possibly do anything, the pseudoscience jibberish from the LRL promoters, the behavior of the LRL promoters that continues to follow the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists, and the fact that all of you are deathly afraid of Carl's double-blind test!
This is probably the most honest post you have made..Thank you very much for telling us how you became an expert..Art
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE THr`
I can learn all I need to from the pictures of the devices and the junk stuffed inside, the schematics that couldn't possibly do anything, the pseudoscience jibberish from the LRL promoters, the behavior of the LRL promoters that continues to follow the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists, and the fact that all of you are deathly afraid of Carl's double-blind test!
This is probably the most honest post you have made..Thank you very much for telling us how you became an expert..Art


Well, if you are inferring that someone can become an expert in a fictitious device by trying to make it work, then your statement is self-contradicting.

Just prove what you keep saying, by taking Carl's test!






:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

I'll try to get it back on topic, yet again---

The Questions LRLers Refuse to Answer


1. Why don't you take Carl's test?

2. What do you feel is wrong with Carl's test?

3. What do you think is a fair test?


I'm asking for solid answers, please. No fairyland mumbo-jumbo. We all know the difference.




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

~EE THr~
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art
~EE THr~
Now your talking about dowsing.
Did I say anything about Dowsing ? If you don’t want to buy a LRL you do not need to..Simple as that if you want to learn anything..Art
~EE THr~
If you don't know anything about LRLs, and you don't know anything about electronics (which they claim to be), then what can you possibly contribute to the topic
?
~EE THr~
I can learn all I need to from the pictures of the devices and the junk stuffed inside, the schematics that couldn't possibly do anything, the pseudoscience jibberish from the LRL promoters, the behavior of the LRL promoters that continues to follow the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists, and the fact that all of you are deathly afraid of Carl's double-blind test!
~EE THr~
Well, if you are inferring that someone can become an expert in a fictitious device by trying to make it work, then your statement is self-contradicting.
Another great exchange of information on your part..Art
 

aarthrj3811 said:
~EE THr~
You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you?
Do you own a cell phone?..Do you own a calculator ?.Do you own a walkie talkie ? Do youn own two metal coat hangers ? Any one of them will find treasure unless you are afraid to learn the truth..art
~EE THr~
Now your talking about dowsing.
Did I say anything about Dowsing ? If you don’t want to buy a LRL you do not need to..Simple as that if you want to learn anything..Art
~EE THr~
If you don't know anything about LRLs, and you don't know anything about electronics (which they claim to be), then what can you possibly contribute to the topic
?
~EE THr~
I can learn all I need to from the pictures of the devices and the junk stuffed inside, the schematics that couldn't possibly do anything, the pseudoscience jibberish from the LRL promoters, the behavior of the LRL promoters that continues to follow the Predictable Pattern of Con Artists, and the fact that all of you are deathly afraid of Carl's double-blind test!
~EE THr~
Well, if you are inferring that someone can become an expert in a fictitious device by trying to make it work, then your statement is self-contradicting.
Another great exchange of information on your part..Art


And another avoidance of the topic questions on your part.





:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

I'll try to get it back on topic yet again---

The Questions LRLers Refuse to Answer


1. Why don't you take Carl's test?

2. What do you feel is wrong with Carl's test?

3. What do you think is a fair test?


I'm asking for solid answers, please. No fairyland mumbo-jumbo. We all know the difference.




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

EE THr said:
EddieR said:
EE THr said:
EddieR said:
Now you can quote that post that I asked you to earlier....or were you making that up?

By the way, what type of LRL do you have? What brand, model, etc?


What post are you referring to?

You don't seriously think I would pay for an LRL, do you?


:coffee2:

Do you not read the posts? I asked you to post a quote from post(s) to validate your claim that LRL users say "trust us to be telling you the truth" (your words). Now...please post the quote or.....admit you just made it up.

So....you don't even HAVE a LRL? You are arguing whether they work or not and don't even have one??????? Well....your arguments are disqualified.

No experience = no knowledge


Yes, I read the posts, but apparently you do not. All of the tales of supposed treasure finds, home "tests," and supposed testimonials are usually accompanied by statements that these are "proof," and thus that we should believe them.

Get some common sense, Edith!

Are you knowledgeable in electronics? Can you give a Theory of Operation run-through on either of the LRL schematics that have been posted by SWR, and explain how they transmit and receive, and which of the components therein perform what functions that contribute to that?

If not, then you have no way of knowing if the LRLs are electronically operated, or are, at best, dowsing devices, do you? So how can you comment on them, if you don't even know what they are?




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

So you just made it up then? Or can you quote the post?

I do not need to know the electronic theory or mechanics of something to use it. However.....experience would be required in order to have any kind of credibility when debating it. At least in the real world, anyway.

I think it's funny that you give out pet names (ladies names)....I guess that is one way to get women involved in your life, eh?
 

EddieR said:
So you just made it up then? Or can you quote the post?

I do not need to know the electronic theory or mechanics of something to use it. However.....experience would be required in order to have any kind of credibility when debating it. At least in the real world, anyway.

I think it's funny that you give out pet names (ladies names)....I guess that is one way to get women involved in your life, eh?

Sorry about the name, I thought you were the cutie on Big J's Facebook page.

Apparently you don't really know how to read, however. If you think I'm going to go back over all the posts just to find something that's obvious to everyone following these threads, you're nuts!

No, experience using something that can't possibly work (my contention actually is that LRLs are no better than dowsing, although I don't vouch for dowsing, either).

Besides, it they did work, someone would have collecte Carl's reward money by now. And don't try to come up with some BS excuse for that, either, because it's just common sense.

And don't try the amateur sick-ology with me, either.


And, most of all---


:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

I'll try to get it back on topic yet again---

The Questions LRLers Refuse to Answer


1. Why don't you take Carl's test?

2. What do you feel is wrong with Carl's test?

3. What do you think is a fair test?


I'm asking for solid answers, please. No fairyland mumbo-jumbo. We all know the difference.




:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?
 

EE THr said:
EddieR said:
So you just made it up then? Or can you quote the post?

I do not need to know the electronic theory or mechanics of something to use it. However.....experience would be required in order to have any kind of credibility when debating it. At least in the real world, anyway.

I think it's funny that you give out pet names (ladies names)....I guess that is one way to get women involved in your life, eh?

Sorry about the name, I thought you were the cutie on Big J's Facebook page.

Apparently you don't really know how to read, however. If you think I'm going to go back over all the posts just to find something that's obvious to everyone following these threads, you're nuts!

No, experience using something that can't possibly work (my contention actually is that LRLs are no better than dowsing, although I don't vouch for dowsing, either).

Besides, it they did work, someone would have collecte Carl's reward money by now. And don't try to come up with some BS excuse for that, either, because it's just common sense.

And don't try the amateur sick-ology with me, either.


And, most of all---


:laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7:

Don't be a doof---show the proof!
P.S. When will you man-up and take Carl's double-blind test, and collect the $25,000.00?
ref: Are LRLs More Than Just Dowsing?

I'm not asking for your opinion on what was said. You wrote that LRL users said that about the trust issue. I'm asking who said it. And quit avoiding the question with your own mumbo-jumbo. Although slightly entertaining, it does wear thin. Just answer this question: In what post did a LRL user state "trust us to be telling you the truth." If you cannot tell me what post it was, then you obviously just made that up in an attempt to sway opinion....a rather common trait of pseudoskepticism, although it is usually performed with more finesse. Just admit you made it up and we'll move on.

I'm not discussing LRL's now, since you aren't experienced with them you aren't qualified to debate whether they work or not.
 

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