Hola amigos,
This is a VERY long reply so I must beg your indulgence.
Thank you Thom, Joe and everyone for the concern and kind words. I believe that many of us here are 'sons of the same father' and cut from the same cloth. There is a connection that never goes away nor even dims with time. I am sorry for not keeping in touch better, just been rather busy recently. I will try to stay in touch better, and you know that if there really were a problem Beth would sure let you know. Now back to our subject matter.
Quinan Bear wrote
I know all about the thrill of the adventure and the beauty of nature. I also know, that if it.s not me that will reveal these locations, someone else will.
I'm not stopping you from your treasure hunting, I was just trying to shed light on a tale that has been going for over 150 years. I see that your not interested in the truth. You just like to go on about your adventures and finds, hoping that one day you would find "the big one". best of hunting to you.
Like I said before, I know I'm right. If you don't believe me, then don't. No sweat off my back but don't try to turn this into a joke, just because you would rather debunk the idea and do whatever you can to try to get me or others that do believe, to not go looking for this treasure. All so that you yourselves could be left alone to find this treasure and keep it for yourselves (typical Americans).
You all talk like you know better. Have any of you found any of these mines? have you found the Vault? You keep dreaming about it. once I give this information to the government, they will take the time to go look, they Will find what it is I have been trying to show you guys. They will go to each and every place that I will tell them to go and then they will take what is there and they will surely make these areas "off limits" to you all. After that, the area will never be the same, you will all lose the opportunity to go treasure hunting in these areas.
I came to you with the best of intensions, a kind hearted offer and offered you all, friendship. Instead of getting a warm welcome I got teased, mocked and laughed at. Well the jokes on you.
For those of you that do hear me and think that I am right. Here is one place to go to, to find one of the mines in the area. once in the area, just look for a clump of trees in a ravine that head up the hill to the east, the mine is in these trees, just at the top of the tree line.
Hola amigo David <
Quinan Bear>,
How would you take it, if I were to show you some satellite images and tell you this is exactly, precisely the location of
the lost Lemon mine? Would you believe me? Would you fuel up your outfit and head for the mountains? Your attitude shows a remarkable lack of understanding of how your statements come across. This seems to be a pattern too - for as has been mentioned, you are not exactly the first person to start posting statements and satellite photos claiming to have found the LDM and coincidentally have worked out the Peralta stones. Like several of your predecessors, you act insulted and affronted that so few of your friends here have NOT immediately started congratulating you and gone packing up to see those sites.
You have said you were a trapper as a boy; so was I. You mentioned that you have gone prospecting all over Canada; well I can't say ALL over Canada but a fair portion of the Yukon, Ontario and even a bit in BC and Alberta, where I could not legally file a mining claim if I did make a find but sometimes when you see streaks of black sands the legalities of the matter grow fuzzy for a real prospector. Are you aware that some folks feel sorry for you, as a prospector, since you waste your life tramping over the mountains and soaking in ice-cold streams panning for gold? They figure that you must be driven solely by
greed, that you
only wish to get rich quick. Are you crestfallen if someone else finds a good mineral deposit, right in the same general area where you have gone but found nothing worth bothering with? Do you see what I am getting at here?
I for one would absolutely LOVE to see someone,
anyone in fact, find the Lost Dutchman gold mine if only to be able to rub the noses of the naysayers in it - for there are plenty of folks who say it never existed. I am
not buying it when someone tells me he (or she) has found it,
but has not even a speck of gold to show for it - for remember, it is a GOLD MINE. The "Vault" of treasure should be easy to prove up with photos. How exactly does a person see a vault, which would be underground, from a satellite image? Even if you could see an outline of a square or rectangle, which is possibly indicating some kind of underground room - how would you know it
is a treasure vault and not
just an old outhouse pit?
I really hope you will make the trip and go see for yourself whether your sites are what you say they are or not. I doubt that you will bother to make the effort, and will likely respond by making some more deprecating remarks about "us" treasure hunters and suggesting that we live in a dream world rather than run the risk of finding out your theories are wrong.
I have one more question for you amigo and will not bother you further - do you suppose that the Lost Dutchman/Peralta is the
only lost treasure or lost mine that "greedy" treasure hunters search for? It is arguably the most famous or infamous, but hardly the only one. If it were found this moment, and tourists were to then start having guided held-by-the-hand trips to go and see it, do you suppose that treasure hunters would then have
nothing left to search for, and by extension, no reason to even BE a treasure hunter any more? There are many,
many more lost treasures for us to seek amigo, more than a non-treasure hunter could even believe. Just within Arizona, are over 300 lost mines and ore ledges which have never been rediscovered, literally thousands of them scattered all over the western US, Canada and Mexico; as for treasures the list is astounding - if I were to try to list them all here it would take me days and days to get it done and I am a fairly fast typer.
You may choose to disbelieve this or think I am just blowing smoke - but in a fair percentage of the lost mines (for example) there are recorded assays, sales of gold or silver receipts, eyewitnesses who saw and/or handled the ores or placer gold, and newspaper accounts. I am going to have to do up a "photo essay" to demonstrate just how easily such a thing as a gold or silver mine can be LOST - and as a prospector you should appreciate it. Besides, it is a very small step from being a prospector to being a treasure hunter - a prospector looks for valuable mineral deposits, and many a lost mine is indeed a valuable mineral deposit, just that someone else found it before you and then the location has been lost.
The Lost Dutchman gold mine is factual. Whether it is found or remains lost, it continues to generate income for local businesses. At least a half dozen different folks have claimed to have found this mine in the past year, and every one has a different spot and of course, NO gold to show, when
it is a gold mine. David I would hope to be among the first to congratulate you and shake your hand if you find the Lost Dutchman mine, but it is going to take more than some satellite photos. A sample of the ore can seal the deal in a scientific way, so that even the majority of the skeptics can't argue it. What you do with the mine(s) and or gold if you find it, is your decision to make - but first you have to find it.
Salvor6 wrote
Cactus jumper, Oroblanco, Gollum and Somehiker, I have read the posts of these idiots like SFNM, Blindbowman, Twisted Fork and others for the last few years. They have been very entertaining but nothing else. Lets see some real proof that they found the LDM but most of them have never even been near there! Why do you put up with this crap?
Well amigo I think most of us try to keep an open mind to the possibility. It is to be expected that someone who finds it, will be excited about his/her find, and may well decide to tell the world about the discovery. The finder will have earned a place in the history books, for sure. All of us have some 'quirks' about us, some of us even have some 'wild ideas' that most people don't agree with, so we try to welcome all fellow treasure hunters and are willing to hear them out. With some of these claimers, as in Blindbowman for instance, even though his claims and theories were pretty far out, at least they were interesting and almost forced us to go back and research the backgrounds of the theories. With others we have no such interesting (if wild) background to research, just posting "
I found it now give me all the respect and honors I am due" and often enough these same fellows are insulted that so few people are ready and willing to grant that respect and honors. I half-suspect that several of them are in fact the same person, using different internet ID's for whatever reasons. Anyway it costs nothing to be respectful and hear someone out, and perhaps the next one will have a sample of gold ore that matches the ore from Jacob Waltz - you never know!
To our next claimant to having found the LDM/Peralta treasure(s) - please, consider how it sounds when you tell the world about your discovery (or -ies, plural) and try to think of what it will take to prove such claims, like a sample of the gold ore, photos of the treasure vault etc. Without such evidence, some of us are just not going to agree that you have indeed found the LDM/Peralta treasures.
Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco
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