The Land of Ophir and the Ancients Ones....

I agree with you Mr. O, but they seemed more interested in the naysayers' opinions.

I read about that castle in a book years ago. I THINK in was in one of Von Danikin's books.
 

Oroblanco said:
....Leedskalnin used only the simplest tools and NONE were power tools, he seemed to have learned the secrets of the ancients when it came to moving huge stone blocks around. ...
Oroblanco
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Greetings Argonauts,

The Vatican releases a Book on the Trial of Templars for a measly $8k(CBS) Hollywood’s long known there’s a great story in the medieval Knights Templar.
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“There were only around for a couple of hundred years but they were very big in terms of helping pilgrims to get to the holy land, protecting them,” said Father Thomas Williams. “They were kind of like an order of bodyguards.”

But history books painted them as villains - with the Catholic Church casting them out, many of them tortured and burned, branded as heretics, CBS News correspondent Richard Roth reports.

When novelist Dan Brown imagined them to be the super-secret guardians of the holy grail, his version of their story had no trouble finding buyers.

Now, from the Vatican comes the official story. Bound in leather and sealed with wax, copies of an epic called “The Trial of the Templars” are now on sale in Rome.

Misplaced in church archives and overlooked for centuries, the document they’re based on was an accidental discovery.

“It’s a needle in a haystack thing. Everybody wants to be the one to finds the document that makes history or changes people’s opinion of things - and this is one of those,” Williams said.

It’s a 700-year-old parchment record of a Vatican trial, with the Knights Templar found guilty of violent crimes and corruption - but never convicted of heresy. They didn’t lose their job for lack of faith.

Fierce fighters, wealthy and almost certainly corrupt when they were disgraced and disbanded by the church they’d served - the knights, it turns out, may have simply been victims of 14th-Century politics: set up by a French king who wanted their riches and a Pope who couldn't protect them.

But this story’s only out in a limited edition.

Just 800 luxurious copies of the ancient Vatican original have been produced, and one’s already gone to the Pope. The rest are sure to sell out, but at more than $8,000 a piece - this could be the season’s most expensive new read.
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The Templars are still making news 7 centuries later!
rangler
 

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" 'et agro acadia' "

Please....Could you say more on this painting and what do those words mean.
 

VICTORIO said:
" 'et agro acadia' "

Please....Could you say more on this painting and what do those words mean.
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Don't be misled by the previous poster - the correct phase is ‘Et in Arcadia ego’, an inscription on the tomb of a shepherd seen on the painting, "The Shepherds of Arcadia" by the Renaissance master Nicolas Poussin. The interpretation of the Latin phrase is usually given as, "Even in Arcadia I exist". This painting is tied to many Knights Templar treasure legends in France. Very interesting stuff.
 

Victorio,

He is what we do know:
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"Et in Arcadia" is Nicolas Poussin's elegiac meditation on a Latin phrase found in Virgil's fifth eclogue that translates literally as "Even in Arcady, there am I," or "Death is even in Arcady," but has been interpreted in various ways through the ages. Erwin Panofsky treats the phrase, and Poussin's possible interpretation, in depth in his "Meaning and the Visual Arts." The inscription is discovered on a tomb by a group of shepherds and absorbs them in contemplation of the idea of mortality, a concept they seem to understand with Stoic resignation''

''The term "Arcadian" has gone through many transformations through the ages as well. A native race of the wild hills of the Peloponnesos in southern Greece, the Arcadians were "a tribe older than the moon" certainly pre-dating the Dorian invasions, or "the birth of Jupiter" and the establishment of the Olympian Pantheon. According to Curtis N. Runnels in the March 1995 issue of Scientific American they may have inhabited the area as early as 50,000 years ago causing, through millennia of poor land management, the severe erosion that created the wasteland of dry shrubs and rocks we visit today. The popular term "Arcadian," describes a utopian garden paradise where serene pastoral folk drink, dance and lounge around in an endless summer. It is here in this untroubled land that Nicolas Poussin's shepherds first encounter the solemn reality that all things must pass.
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The second version of Poussins' Arcadian Shepards

This atmosphere of nostalgia in Utopia has survived as the philosopher's definition of "Arcadia," leaving behind a vital and ancient tapestry of folklore. In the reality of mythological Arcadia there were many terrifying dangers, the least of which was death, for its vast population of nymphs, dryads, naiads, satyrs, fauns, Cyclops and lesser gods such as Pan and occasionally Dionysus. Perhaps it was these disenfranchised deities who brought with them the carpet of lush vegetation that transformed the rocky wasteland into the wild and crazy playground of Ovid's "Metamorphoses". In a sense, classical Arcadia was never a Utopia, and its character is as complex and mysterious as the human psyche.

It may indeed be the place where the clear and rational Olympians banished those untamed and unnamable qualities, far from the ordered hierarchies needed by a dynasty of tyrannical sky-gods. Arcadia is then the anarchist state inhabited by uncontrollable misfits where Pan keeps vigil over his domain, scaring away rational beings with his unearthly howls and screeches. Maybe Poussin's painting has more of a lesson than even he realized. Death is not in Arcadia, because the wasteland of Arcadia, like the subconscious, like the moon, like cyberspace, is the realm of the imagination, where all things are possible.

More from Poussin's egmatic sentence..pure code it is beleived

While the phrase "et in arcadia ego" is a nominal phrase with no finite verb, it is a well-formed construction because substantive and copular verb omission is perfectly acceptable in Latin.

Pseudohistorians unaware of that aspect of Latin grammar have concluded that the sentence is incomplete, missing a verb, and have speculated that it represents some esoteric message concealed in a (possibly anagrammatic) code.

In The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln, under the false impression that "et in arcadia ego" was not a proper Latin sentence, proposed that it is an anagram for I! Tego arcana dei, which translates to "Begone! I keep God's secrets", suggesting that the tomb contains the remains of Jesus or another important Biblical figure.

They claimed that Poussin was privy to this secret and that he depicted an actual location. The authors did not explain why the tomb depicted in the second version of the painting should contain this secret while the distinctly different one in the first version presumably does not. Ultimately, this view is dismissed by art historians.

In their book The Tomb of God, Richard Andrews and Paul Schellenberger, developing these ideas, have theorized that the Latin sentence misses the word "sum". They argue that the extrapolated phrase et in arcadia ego sum could be an anagram for arcam dei tango iesu, which would mean "I touch the tomb of God — Jesus". Their argument postulates that:
the Latin phrase is incomplete.''
( It is further thought that this could be translanted to "I hold the secrets of Jesus' ie the Holy Grail and even Ark of the Convenant, and the Knight Templar being the Guardians of these Holy Relics! Even to the point the Oak Island mystery COULD have been done by the KT and the treasure could be these relics..)
the extrapolation as to the missing words is correct
the sentence, once completed, is intended to be an anagram
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Seems the thread continues with the idea that the 'immigrants' to Nova Scotia (New Scotland) and the Sinclairs
descendants of the Knights Templar, where called 'Arcadians'!

Clan Sinclair Society of Nova Scotia

This group is active in celebrating the 600th anniversary of Prince Henry Sinclair's visit to North American in 1398. For example, it has built an interpretative memorial to Prince Henry's Atlantic Voyage in 1398 overlooking Guysborough Harbour in Nova Scotia, thought to be Prince Henry's landfall site in Nova Scotia.
Dawn (Sinclair) Hemeon, Vice President, Clan Sinclair Society of Nova Scotia, remarks, ``We have a series of events to celebrate the 600th anniversary of this historic occasion


"Arcadia" is a little more difficult to pin down because it is almost philosophical in concept. Arcadia is not a real place; rather it is a place that represents to us that mythological land where there was no strife or conflict either on personal or national levels; people lived in harmony with their enviroment, pursued poetry, music,love; lived in freedom and peace with neighbours without war and you get the idea. It actually is relevant to Sinclairs because as Baigeant et al. pointed out in Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, The Prieure de Sion, that murky semi-secret group that is supposed to have an unbroken chain of grand- masters all the way back to the Merovingians and the descendants of Christ and Mary Magdalene, numbered Poussin the French artist of the Baroque period as one of their grand-masters and he was into "Arcadia" in a big way. The French St. Clairs are regarded as semi-regal by Baigeant and were the guardians of the secret of the Holy Blood and for whom "Arcadia" represented the lost secrets if not also lost innocence

So Victorio, you see the truth always takes things to the next level, while half truths and distortions always
send the energy to ground, where it dies.
hope this helps
rangler
 

Thank You so very Much Rangler. You are my Buddy !!!
 

Wow, that was quite a convoluted cut-and-paste. Here's a simplified version:

The term "Arcadian", in regard to the Knights Templar legends of Southern France, has at least a couple of uses. It's speculated that the word can be interchanged with the concept of "hidden knowledge", particularly in the case of the Poussin painting as to the identification of the bloodline of the person known as Jesus of Nazareth. The contention that Mary Magdalene was the wife of Jesus and the mother of their daughter Sarah is billed as "The Big Secret" and the protection of the identities of those in the bloodline is reputedly the Templars' mission. Christians don't like this idea at all, because if true, it repudiates some of the cornerstones of the "Christian religion".

The Templars used many layers in their secrets and codes, usually hidden in plain view. As Rangler quoted above, the letters of the Latin phrase "Et in Arcadia ego" can also be rearranged to form another Latin phrase "I tego arcana dei", translated as "I conceal the secrets of God". In addition, "Arcadia" is a region in ancient Greece reputed to be the origin of the French Merovingian kings, rumored to be recipients of the above-mentioned Jesus bloodline.

This painting reputedly contains much more code on many levels, not to mention that there are numerous other paintings by Poussin, daVinci and others that also contain coded messages. It's a big subject that goes on and on. If you're interested, start with the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" and keep going from there.
 

Well now that we have had the fantasy out of our system (Templars) let's talk real history. I agree about the lies the Victors make into history but let's not get into the Chinese story that needs to be on a post about general world history.
Try this one on: http://s8int.com/phile/page43.html
This is the famous Red Bird Petroglyph known since pioneer days and enrolled on the National Register of Historic Sites.
At least 8 Old World alphabets are engraved on it. These alphabets were extinct when Columbus arrived in the New World in 1492.
The alphabets are first century Greek and Hebrew, Old Libyan, Old Arabic and Iberian-Punic which probably dates from the 9th century B.C. Ogam, Germanic Runes, and Tiffinag-Numidian are also on this stone.
Of all the hundreds of important, translatable, and published inscriptions in the U.S.A, this is the first one to have been given official protection. Clay County and the City of Manchester have granted protection to this Stone. In doing so, they have obtained a good name and public esteem worldwide

Near Chillicothe Ohio is an old Viking Fort, the Smithsonian guys like to call it Norwegian. It sets up on top of a huge plateau that is almost unscalable. I have been there and it is about 3 miles in circumference. (You can find it in "Ancient Monuments of the Mississippi Valley” by Squire and Davis first printed in 1848—they thought it was Indian)The walls were once over 10 feet high made of rectangular iron like stones.They had six or seven SMELTERS at the base of it making a crude iron. Not far from the plateau you can see where the water use to be over 100 feet up on the hills where there is nothing but a huge valley now! This is the place where they docked their boats after coming up the Ohio which use to run the opposite direction!
These Vikings were everywhere way before the Templars/Spanish/French. There is another location similar to the one I just described near Louisville Kentucky. The Indian legends say the Eastern US Vikings were really mean and ate their people! The Indians from several tribes got together and wiped them out. The legends say 5,000 Indians fought 1,100 Vikings. I have a picture of a weapon the Vikings used, its conical like a bullet, about 22 inches long and big end is 5 inches in diameter…they used it by fastening it onto the end of cut saplings and fired it from a huge crossbow at the enemy. Also have a picture of one of the blocks used to make the walls.
 

curtis: extremely interesting- how about post some of the other pictures?? thats the first time i've heard about the red bird stone. it all boils down to the fact that we just don't know what all happened here long ago. remember genesis ch. 11, v. 8? the emphasis is on '' All the earth''. have a good weekend=== tenclaw===
 

Interesting short article on Philippines as a possible Ophir.

From the article....

In Spain there is a book called Coleccion General de Documentos Relativos a las Islas Filipinas. It is found in the Archivos de Indias de Sevilla. It was reprinted in 1920 in Barcelona, Spain by the Compania General de Tabaccos de Filipinas. Its Tomo III (1519-1522), pages 112-138, contains Document No. 98 describing how to locate the land of Ophir.
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Document No. 98 describes how to locate the land of Ophir. The travel guide started from the Cape of Good Hope in Africa to India, to Burma, to Sumatra, to Moluccas, to Borneo, to Sulu, to China, then finally Ophir.
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The full article is here:

http://www.boholchronicle.com/2008/dec/21/opinion2.htm
 

A Mayan King burried as a templar in Mexico,or a temlar burried in Mexico in templar tradition
can anyone tell me if they are intrested in this mexican templar tomb?

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compare it with the one found on this painting in 1845

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Pakalito, Interesting. I've not done a study on Mayan burial customs, so do not know if sarcophagi were a common burial method.

I am interestested of course!

Best Regards
DM
 

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