the everything site ...?

Bill96 said:
BB,
No one in the long history of this t-net forum has ever claimed to find so much and offered so little proof as you have, you are in a class
and a world by yourself, but you do make me laugh and I sure do need a laugh.
Bill

ok, fair is fair .. if you walked up and found something out there . and lived a long ways from the site would you tell people on this site ....lol see my piont ... no ,nether would i ! lol

what if i told you it goes way past proff ...

you still would not beleive a word i say ..i guess its working if thats the case ....
 

you dont want the truth ...you cant handle it ...

but you cant stand anyone else finding it ...

what happends when i post proff .. someone goes and clams the site and makes up some BS story how they found it on their own ... get real you would not tell me if you found it ....lol did you ever think the golden statue was not a jesiut priest it could be a greek statue ...?
 

Peerless67 said:
E=MC2 (1/5) = NU/ TS1/6 + (CR+A-Z)+Y

L+U- (na/TI) = C

24/7+365

Or as my good friend Forrest Gump would say “that’s all I have to say about that”

:coffee2:

we dont have to wonder what your IQ is ....lol
 

BB wrote
ok, fair is fair .. if you walked up and found something out there . and lived a long ways from the site would you tell people on this site ....lol see my piont ... no ,nether would i ! lol

No I would not tell people on this site what I found but you did tell us what you found, over and over again , now prove it that's all i'm asking

Bill
 

ok, fair is fair .. if you walked up and found something out there . and lived a long ways from the site would you tell people on this site ....lol see my piont ... no ,nether would i ! lol

:tard: It's amazing that you don't see the irony in your statement.

Here, let me help... NO ,if I found something of importance out there, the very LAST thing I would do is come on to a public forum and shout at the top of my lungs that I had found Montezuma's tomb, Atlantis, the LDM, the Sombrero mine, the Treasures of the Temple, Chicomoztoc, etc..., but then again that's just me :tongue3:

I'm sure there's probably at least one person out there who might just be nutty enough to do that - I'll give you 3 guesses who and the first 2 don't count :icon_scratch: :icon_jokercolor:
 

Cubfan64 said:
ok, fair is fair .. if you walked up and found something out there . and lived a long ways from the site would you tell people on this site ....lol see my piont ... no ,nether would i ! lol

:tard: It's amazing that you don't see the irony in your statement.

Here, let me help... NO ,if I found something of importance out there, the very LAST thing I would do is come on to a public forum and shout at the top of my lungs that I had found Montezuma's tomb, Atlantis, the LDM, the Sombrero mine, the Treasures of the Temple, Chicomoztoc, etc..., but then again that's just me :tongue3:

I'm sure there's probably at least one person out there who might just be nutty enough to do that - I'll give you 3 guesses who and the first 2 don't count :icon_scratch: :icon_jokercolor:

so you do think the same way about OJ ..i mean CJ ,....lol
 

did you realize i may have a better reason to do what i am doing then you know .....

i will level with you on a even table..


"Music Encyclopedia: Pythagoras

Greek philosopher and religious teacher. He emigrated from Samos to Croton in southern Italy c 531bc. Doctrines of his school include the Music Encyclopedia: Pythagoras

Greek philosopher and religious teacher. He emigrated from Samos to Croton in southern Italy c 531bc. Doctrines of his school include the harmony of the spheres and a belief in the importance of numbers as a guide to the interpretation of the world. The discovery of the numerical ratios corresponding to the principal intervals of the musical scale is attributed to him. He became an almost legendary figure, and from the 5th century onwards his followers constituted one of the principal schools of Greek musical theory.




this is the part i am researching

" harmony of the spheres "

why because there is a well know picture of Pythagoras holding a sphere.. why is this importain .. because the sorce of that spheres is the chicomoztoc codex


the spheres he holds has a very speacal pattern . it is prime binary. i can not tell you Pythagoras got this data ,but i do know where it came from and the codex was drawn from a much old sorce . the plato stated he beleived the culture was as old as 9000 years ,i dont think he was talking about atlantis at all when he said that ...''


it is clear that the culture of the codex is far older the atlantis ...yet when the codex was made they knew of atlantis at the time .so if the codex is a copy then who copied it and where is the real sorce ...


this would prove that atlantis learned about the priime numbers from the pre chichimeca
and that could be what we are missing . the Egypt pyramids could be the effects of trade between pre chicomoztc and atlantis ... if atlantis was tradeing with Egypt.. we know some of the site related to chicomoztc are as out as 13500 bc . but those dirrectly related are 3500-5000 years old ... we see the Egyptain .. pyramids and we think there were not made the same time as the pyramids of mayan,aztec ,or inca but they would not have been if this is the true sorce ..of the math but the math dosent lie .. it is the same math ... how do i know a few reasons . one the age of the chanle island site .and the nasca plans ,and the age of crete it self ... and then the data that atlas could have been king in atlantis ...

see i think they are right about the Phoenicians:



Columbia Encyclopedia: Phoenician art.
The Phoenician region developed as a major trade center of the ancient world; consequently Phoenician art clearly reflects the influences of Egypt, Syria, and Greece. Phoenician deities were represented in Egyptian and Syrian attire and were surrounded with foreign symbolism adopted by Phoenician artists and used to illustrate indigenous beliefs. The Phoenicians excelled at metalcraft and carving. Their ivories and metal reliefs were copied in many neighboring regions, especially in Palestine, Greece, and Etruria. Their artisans settled in Egypt and Greece and imported Syrian work as well as their own, increasing the amalgamation of styles. The principal Phoenician excavations are at Byblos, but Phoenician works in jewelry, glass, clay, alabaster, ivory, many metals, faience, and wood are found in all Mediterranean countries and neighboring areas of Asia Minor. Their textiles too, particularly the famous blue and purple cloth, were widely exported. Among the most famous examples of Phoenician carving is a gem- and glass-inlaid ivory found at Nimrud depicting a Nubian man being attacked by a lion (British Mus.). art.
The Phoenician region developed as a major trade center of the ancient world; consequently Phoenician art clearly reflects the influences of Egypt, Syria, and Greece. Phoenician deities were represented in Egyptian and Syrian attire and were surrounded with foreign symbolism adopted by Phoenician artists and used to illustrate indigenous beliefs. The Phoenicians excelled at metalcraft and carving. Their ivories and metal reliefs were copied in many neighboring regions, especially in Palestine, Greece, and Etruria. Their artisans settled in Egypt and Greece and imported Syrian work as well as their own, increasing the amalgamation of styles. The principal Phoenician excavations are at Byblos, but Phoenician works in jewelry, glass, clay, alabaster, ivory, many metals, faience, and wood are found in all Mediterranean countries and neighboring areas of Asia Minor. Their textiles too, particularly the famous blue and purple cloth, were widely exported. Among the most famous examples of Phoenician carving is a gem- and glass-inlaid ivory found at Nimrud depicting a Nubian man being attacked by a lion (British Mus.).



Phoenicians
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A Semitic people from the eastern Mediterranean renowned as traders in later prehistory, erroneously credited with many wondrous exploits around the world. Descendants of the Canaanites, their early history is obscure. By the later 2nd millennium bc, however, they occupied the narrow coastal plain of Lebanon and Syria with important settlements at Tyre, Sidon, and Byblos. Under Hiram I of Tyre (970–936 bc) the Phoenicians enjoyed a golden age; soon afterwards a series of colonies was established as part of a complex and extensive trading network in the western Mediterranean. The colonies included: Gades, Gibraltar, Tingis, Carthago Nova, Ebusius, Cherchell, Algiers, Hippo, Carthage, Utica, Sabrata, Lepcis Magna, Malta, Nora, Caralis, Sulicis, Tharros, and Olbia. After their incorporation into the Babylonian empire in 574 bc they continued their role as merchants, traders, and middlemen. They were the leading seafarers of the 1st millennium bc, sailing into the Atlantic and reputedly circumnavigating Africa. It is often claimed that they came to Britain, but this has never been substantiated. Towards the end of the 1st millennium bc they were absorbed into the Hellenistic and Roman world. The Phoenicians are believed to have developed the first alphabetic script around 1500 bc; the Greek, Roman, Arabic, and Hebrew alphabets all derive from the Phoenician one.

:They were the leading seafarers of the 1st millennium bc, sailing into the Atlantic .../The Phoenicians are believed to have developed the first alphabetic script around 1500 bc; the Greek, Roman, Arabic, and Hebrew alphabets all derive from the Phoenician one.


those are just a few of the reason i beleive they may have learn the math threw the known trade routes of the time ...in this case threw the Phoenicians...

i cant get that 1500bc date out of my head ..i have ran into it a few times so far one reason is the pre chichimeca era .....

the piont being chicomoztoc tradeing with atlantis and atlantis trading with the Phoenicians, and they traded with the just about everyone ...this could be a logical way that chicomoztoc could have this addvanced math and it could end up with Pythagoras..

you got to remeber by the way it looks ,anyone that spoke highly of someone band from the culture could get band them selfs ...i guess their internet was diffrent from ours ...lol

the inner workings of goverment were not always far .. so i dont know if anything has change from then to now ,,,....lol


i guess the 1500 date is to close to the : Crete 1600 B.C

remebering i stated that crete is a main focal piont of this data .. note it is 5000 nm from atlantis , i just can picture them sending atlas 20 miles away after what they did .. they stated they sent him to the edge of the known world .. : to the end of the ocean river : i under stand this to mean the gulfstream . if atlantis was where i said it was then at the time it would have been in the way of the gulfstream and when it sank into the ocean the gulfstream would have chnaged corse and then flowed up the eastern sea board like it dose now ...this clearly could explan what took place and why ...

Crete (krēt)


An island of southeast Greece in the eastern Mediterranean Sea. Its Minoan civilization, centered at the city of Knossos on the northern coast, was one of the earliest in the world and reached the height of its wealth and power c. 1600 B.C. Crete subsequently fell to the Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Venetians, and Ottoman Turks. The islanders proclaimed their union with modern Greece in 1908.
 

bb! please explain how this ties in with finding treasure in ariz. u.s.a. , i think you have got way off topic . whitt459
 

whitt459 said:
bb! please explain how this ties in with finding treasure in ariz. u.s.a. , i think you have got way off topic . whitt459

Welcome to the zoo :) You have to read between the lines - BB has apprently found a crystal in the Superstition Mountains located near the site of an ancient Aztec/Toltec or otherwise "ball field." This crystal is apparently tied to the trade routes between Atlantis and the rest of the world from ancient times and leads to how ancient civilizations learned and transferred their mathematical knowledge.

See, simple eh?

As I said, welcome to the zoo :)
 

bb,

[the spheres he holds has a very speacal pattern . it is prime binary. i can not tell you Pythagoras got this data ,but i do know where it came from and the codex was drawn from a much old sorce . the plato stated he beleived the culture was as old as 9000 years ,i dont think he was talking about atlantis at all when he said that ...''


it is clear that the culture of the codex is far older the atlantis ...yet when the codex was made they knew of atlantis at the time .so if the codex is a copy then who copied it and where is the real sorce ...


this would prove that atlantis learned about the priime numbers from the pre chichimeca
and that could be what we are missing . the Egypt pyramids could be the effects of trade between pre chicomoztc and atlantis ... if atlantis was tradeing with Egypt.. we know some of the site related to chicomoztc are as out as 13500 bc . but those dirrectly related are 3500-5000 years old ... we see the Egyptain .. pyramids and we think there were not made the same time as the pyramids of mayan,aztec ,or inca but they would not have been if this is the true sorce ..of the math but the math dosent lie .. it is the same math ... how do i know a few reasons . one the age of the chanle island site .and the nasca plans ,and the age of crete it self ... and then the data that atlas could have been king in atlantis ...]
___________________________________________________________

At this point in time, Atlantis remains in the realm of LEGEND. Until it's actually found, that's where it belongs.

Atlas was the first born of the ten sons (five sets of twins) of Poseidon.....in Greek mythology. It was Poseidon who made him "king" of Atlantis. The island was divided into ten parts, and each section was given to one of Poseidon's sons. Atlas received the central mountain as his.

It's no real surprise that you cover your beliefs in mythology. In mythology there is, almost, no way to prove or disprove a myth's reality. Reality seems to be the one thing you have spent a lot of time avoiding. Each and every time someone try's to conduct a serious conversation, here you come with your own special brand of fiction. It would have been child's play for Plato to write a convincing version of "Alice In Wonderland".

Your own efforts to write some brilliant fiction on this site rises well above impressive. It would not surprise me one bit to see you write one hell of a book........assuming you are capable of focusing your abilities on such a project. In truth, you are wasting a good deal of time on this Forum. Your constant attempts to convince anyone of anything here, are an abject failure.

There is little doubt, for me, that you are a gifted person. It is patently obvious that you are squandering your gifts. One can only wonder why you continue to return, like a faithful dog, to the abuse that is constantly heaped upon you here. What a complete waste.

Take care,

Joe Ribaudo
 

Cubber, you did it again, sniffff You posted -->

"II had found Montezuma's tomb, Atlantis, the LDM, the Sombrero mine, the Treasures of the Temple, Chicomoztoc, etc..., but then again that's just me

I'm sure there's probably at least one person out there who might just be nutty enough to do that - I'll give you 3 guesses who and the first 2 don't count "
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SNIFFFFF SNIFFFFFFFFFFF this includes Tayopa of course? Geeze cubber.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Hola amigos,

Blindbowman wrote:
so you want proff , are you greedy Oro ,....wanting ..

becarefull , the keeper of the "keys to the kingdom" could hear you .....

Greedy? How would you define “greedy”? I am greedy for knowledge, so yes at least in part. If I were greedy only for monetary gain, I would not encourage others to seek out treasures, which as you know is not my viewpoint. There are literally tens of thousands of great treasures out there waiting to be found and recovered amigo, the LDM is not the only one! ;D

Blindbowman also wrote:
you dont want the truth ...you cant handle it ...

but you cant stand anyone else finding it ...

what happends when i post proff .. someone goes and clams the site and makes up some BS story how they found it on their own ... get real you would not tell me if you found it ....lol did you ever think the golden statue was not a jesiut priest it could be a greek statue ...?

Hmm well if we are quoting famous movie quotes (A Few Good Men) then perhaps this is applicable? “The Truth Shall Set You Free”.

Why in the world would you think that we can’t stand the idea of someone else “finding” it? I am HOPING that someone finds the Lost Dutchman, and that this person will hit the news media, if for no other reason than to shut up the numerous skeptics who don’t even believe that Jacob Waltz ever existed (and yes there are PLENTY of folks who think this way amigo!) Of course it would be NICE if I were the one to find that gold mine, but since I am not out looking for it, I will be more than happy to see someone (anyone other than a govt agent who might then get it sealed off forever) find the lost gold mine of Waltz.


You ought not have any worries about anyone claiming the site(s) either, since the Wilderness area is CLOSED to mineral entry, NO ONE can file ANY mining claims anywhere within the wilderness area, or for that matter the State Park section of the Superstition mountains. As for the golden statue, we have only your word that it was actually gold, the fellow who told that original tale might well have been simply making it up! Sometimes I don’t understand your logic amigo.

Blindbowman also wrote:
i cant get that 1500bc date out of my head ..i have ran into it a few times so far one reason is the pre chichimeca era .....

Well I think most historians would not date the chichimecs to 1500 bc, but that date is quite close to an eruption of Thera and the resulting destruction of the Minoans, some think it is directly related to the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt as well.

Cactusjumper wrote:
At this point in time, Atlantis remains in the realm of LEGEND. Until it's actually found, that's where it belongs.

Atlas was the first born of the ten sons (five sets of twins) of Poseidon.....in Greek mythology.

I respectfully disagree with your statements there amigo, and refer to the words of Plato himself, who insisted the story was not legendary but historical. Atlas is referred to by other ancient historians as a real person, not a "god" *like nearly all ancient "gods" he was deified AFTER death* but a king or important leader, and the first to understand the "doctrine of the sphere" (hence the parable of Atlas carrying the world on his shoulders - read Diodorus bk II). All of which does nothing to support or refute the statements of Blindbowman, just that I disagree on whether these are mythological or historical.

Good luck and good hunting amigos, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
your friend,
Oroblanco
 

Roy,

Hope all is well with you folks.

"Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia."

Can you pinpoint this time in history?

Thank you.

Take care,

Joe
 

cactusjumper said:
Roy,

Hope all is well with you folks.

"Now in this island of Atlantis there was a great and wonderful empire which had rule over the whole island and several others, and over parts of the continent, and, furthermore, the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia."

Can you pinpoint this time in history?

Thank you.

Take care,

Joe

yes we can with in reasonable a dout , thats just what i have been trying to tell you all the date 1500bc -1600bc ..maybe as close of a logic guess as any other could be with dirrect proff ..

my piont being that i beieve the copy of the codex was made around 1600Ad yet the sorce was made around 1500-1600bc , why because for one atlantis shows up on the dirrectly related to the codex showing they knew of it back then ,this cant be faked ..the sorce is complexe math and the fact your saying Atlas knew this type of math is even more evidence to suport this theory ...

in this theory Atlantis sank between those two dates or very near those two dates ...because those two dates and the time that passes between them is the only time all of the facts could have been put togather and make any sence at all even if most fail to relate the events dose not mean they are not related ...often as in many legends the detail become confused with other data that blurs the time lines of the events that suround the legend and with the desription comeing from more then one sorce at more then one time being confused with opioion vs facts or theory who knows the truth unless we define all the possableities one by one even if we dont agree with any one possablity haveing anything what so ever to do with the over all legend let alone any given piont within a legend or its known events ....

my piont is you fail to under stand why i did what i have done , the codex holds a hidden discription of the site in question as well as defining once and for all atlantis as well as a dozen other sites of the culture in question or at lest who they knew in trade at the time .. the complex math defines them very easyly when you under stand the math behind the charting ...


the reason i didnt say anything to you is because it clearly 100% definds my site 4 ...no dout what so ever ! in fact it is so definding its as complex as a human finger print and just as selective by odds and ratio.....

so i well tell you , " there is no chance within a reasonable dout ,(maybe 1 in 10 million) that i am wrong about site 4 "

one thing bugs me .. you fail to at times see any related theories as being part of the answer to the questions of what happend to the sites of the legends , but i ask you where do you think those parts went ... they havent gone anywhere .. its our fault we fail to be able to defind the path that made these legends .. we have no one to blame other then our selfs ..and our own lack to under stand what looks to be random peices ...


maybe your right .. the value of pionting out these sites maybe worth more then the sites them selfs ...to me at lest ...


" you may have failed to under stand the Atlantis is define on two diffrent codex at the same location , "

for me to prove site 4 i must as well prove Atlantis is there .. it is becuase both codex and legend say it is .. not because of my own presonal opioions
 

let me add something to the last reply ..

if the codex are facts as the people or culture that made them seen the facts at the time of their culture ,then if Atlantis is on the codex or define by the codex as being in a given location ,then if we define that as truth ,then we prove the codex are as real as the bible is today ...

the piont is when i translated the codex and found chicomoztoc where the code said it was ... then i knew Atlantis must be where they say it is as well ...even if i did not agree at the time ..

i can prove there is a logical amont of evidence to say it is there .. and if two diffrent codex pionted to the same location the odds doubl..

the math dose defind the codex as the sorce of the math ..

to build a bridge between chicomoztoc and Pythagoras or even plato has been my dirrection for some time now .. thats why the side steps to this rare math , i felt it would help build the bridge of evidence to build suporting structure for the bridge ..i was right it dose ...
 

the blindbowman said:
what are the odds ..

some site may not be the part of the normal odds of treasure legends ,, my site #4 is a great exsample of this


one location yet dozens of pionts of interest have taken place at site #4 , the secerd place dates to IMHO about 13,000 BC or older . yet at one piont the tribes went under ground in the catcoms that have a enterence at site #4 when the upper earth was no longer safe ,, only to reappear aroud the folsum era...from then on the site is taken by war and raits and massacre and death and nature only to be past from one legend to the next till the site is lost and never recoverd ...

i find the odds so unbeleiveable it added to the lost of this site ..


if i did not under stand the ture history of this site i would not beleive this was posable at all , yet this is a real site ...

lets talk about the fact is it posable to have a site like this ... i know frist hand what i have seen and i know thi site is real but often so many of you dont beleive what i have told you .could only make me question what do you beleive is posable to start with ...?


IMHO if you told me i have told you . i would most likely not beleive site #4 could be real ether ...so i agree with you about the odds ..

yet site is not a dream or some vission of RV ... its a reality a real location coverd over so well no one saw it ...but i dont hunt the way others do ...my sense guide me and site #4 has taken years to define,,....


is site #4 the exception to rule of normal odds ....?

did the seerd place have unearthy powers that caused this ...?

i have done as much as i can to kept this site from the public until it could be defind and soon it will be public ..so what do you think .. how many sites are out there and are their other sites like site #4 waithing for one of you to locate it with as much research and time and money as i have had to put forth to just define this type of site ... ?

the everything site .. reality or confussion ...?


Seem to have gone way off topic on this one, so I have taken the liberty of quoting the original post.
I would like to answer some of your questions bowman and have a couple of my own to add.

--------------------------

Quote:"lets talk about the fact is it posable to have a site like this ... i know frist hand what i have seen and i know thi site is real but often so many of you dont beleive what i have told you .could only make me question what do you beleive is posable to start with ...? "

My answer would be yes bowman it is quite possible to have such a site, infact such sites with numerous historical events taking place over many thousands of years by different "peoples" have been discovered many times.

--------------------------

Quote:"is site #4 the exception to rule of normal odds ....?"

I believe the above answer also answers this question.

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Quote:"did the seerd place have unearthy powers that caused this ...?"

If you indeed found a sacred place, then those who inhabited it may truely have believed it held unearthy powers, this does not mean it did. It simply means that those who inhabited such a place may have believed it did. And even today there are people who still believe such things. Wether or not that is the cause for why the site has only been discovered and difined by you is debateable.

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Quotes: "yet site is not a dream or some vission of RV ... its a reality a real location coverd over so well no one saw it ...but i dont hunt the way others do ...my sense guide me and site #4 has taken years to define,,...."

"i have done as much as i can to kept this site from the public until it could be defind and soon it will be public ..so what do you think .. how many sites are out there and are their other sites like site #4 waithing for one of you to locate it with as much research and time and money as i have had to put forth to just define this type of site ... ?"

I was confused by these two quotes, forgive my low IQ. You say that site #4 has taken you years to define.
By that I asume you have defined site #4. And yet your second quote seems to invalidate your first by claiming you wont go public until you have defined it. You also say "soon it will be public", could you define soon for me?

----------------------------

Also you have said "my sense guide me and site #4 has taken years to define,,...." I am curious as to how many years the site took you to define, I thought site #4 was discovered on expidition #2 so that could only be 2years at best.


Quote: " the everything site .. reality or confussion ...?" Reality maybe confusion certainly.


:coffee2:
 

...as you know i dont live in the area and there is alot of site wiork to still be done , the defineing the location and what the site was ,at times was a totall mass of confussions .. but this often happends in digs and you never know what you will find next...

That's just hypothetical right? You wouldn't have done any REAL digging on federally protected land now would you? :nono:
 

Real de Tayopa said:
Cubber, you did it again, sniffff You posted -->

"II had found Montezuma's tomb, Atlantis, the LDM, the Sombrero mine, the Treasures of the Temple, Chicomoztoc, etc..., but then again that's just me

I'm sure there's probably at least one person out there who might just be nutty enough to do that - I'll give you 3 guesses who and the first 2 don't count "
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SNIFFFFF SNIFFFFFFFFFFF this includes Tayopa of course? Geeze cubber.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Hmmm, methinks you've caught me in a conundrum :) So now I have to figure out what it is that defines such a difference between what you claim and what BB claims since I don't associate your name with "nutty" at all.

I'm going to have to ponder this one for a bit - I know it has something to do with the degree of respect you show others, but there has to be more to it. Give me time to figure this one out (and get my foot out of my mouth at the same time) :)
 

HIO my friend Cubber, first you must understand my weird sense of humor and not take me to seriously, especially on this type of post.hehehehe.

Relax my friend, I have a hide tempered by life, ORO, CJ , djuicy, old dog, jack and a host of others. I doubt that you can insult me truly, sides I am a narcissistic, egotistical, masochist, in other words a treasure hunter. snicker
.
Don Jose de La Mancha
 

bb wrote
Quote:"lets talk about the fact is it posable to have a site like this ... i know frist hand what i have seen and i know thi site is real but often so many of you dont beleive what i have told you .could only make me question what do you beleive is posable to start with ...? "

I can believe just about anything is possible i'm just asking you to prove it or at the very least show some tangable evidence.
Bill
 

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