the everything site ...?

[the blindbowman]

Cubber, you posted --> "a bunch of yahoos on a treasure hunting website".

sheesh, sniff, sniff, hurt, bawl, Beth / Goss gal, please hold my hand while I recover. (may take a while, snicker).

How could he?

A cup of coffee, while genuflecting on bended knee, tugging your forelock, might be considered as absolving you Cub - no smooches accepted..

Don Jose de La Mancha

You know, I kinda thought someone might call me out on that one Ok, ok... that was rude of me to lump as all together as "a bunch of yahoos," - I'll rephrase that and just call myself a yahoo and anyone who wants to join me please feel free.

In all seriousness though, while BB may be solving some amazing new theory that will save the world and human race, it just seems a little odd to focus that discussion here when there are clearly many many other more appropriate audiences. I do my part in helping the world by volunteering, donations to charitable and health related organizations, etc... - I don't appreciate it when someone belittles what I do and assumes I sit by in a lounge chair and let the world revolve around me oblivious to everything. I do what I do because it's what I CAN do - I don't claim to be able to solve any of the worlds global issues, but if I did and truly felt I was able to, no offense to everyone here but I wouldn't spend my time trying to convince you all of my genius - I'd be talking to people who could make a real difference in that discipline.

Just my $0.02

in many ways i trust you more then the rest of the human race ...

lol the power of the gods just laying around whats this reality comeing to ...?

 

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[Oroblanco]

Greetings amigos,

Blindbowman you are covering a lot of ground there in your theory, which is based on a set of six elements. I presume you are using the term "elements" as regards each part, not as to the elements as there are at least 117 of them. There are problems with your theory, which plainly you must see - for how can your theory allow for the existence of parallel universes? (Many scientists now think they do exist) According to the most popular idea about parallel universes, they can exist in the same space due to the fact that they are "out of phase" ie their vibration rates are different from the vibrations of matter in our own universe. In fact some tests have shown that at least one parallel universe must exist, as in their tests objects reacted to "something" when nothing should have been there. What about the fact that the average vibration rate of all matter has been increasing over time, which is contrary to all the laws of physics? I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact.

I have to agree with our friends here that this is getting fairly off-topic, and it is difficult to see how this could be connected to the main subject of your thread here, which has been the sites you found in the Superstition mountains. I would suggest that you publish your mathematical discovery in a peer-reviewed publication, where the main precepts could be discussed among those who are directly concerned with theory. Since you seem to believe that your fellow T-net members are so far below you in intellect, I would also suggest that you take the Mensa test, their web site has information on how to make arrangements to take their test: http://www.mensa.org/ that is, if you believe your IQ is among the top 2% of all people. You will find plenty of folks there who can discuss any subject you desire.

Blindbowman wrote:

well just for starters , if S.a.d.e . is trying to call out into space ,it would be nice to use the right frequency , dont you think ?

what if that is why they dont answer ... if we know how sound and light move we can control it ...what cant we do ...lol ..

Okay I will "bite" - what is "S.a.d.e" is that something like NASA or SETI? SETI is not beaming signals out into space, they are "listening" with radio telescopes. (SETI stands for "Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence" BTW) I would presume that "they don't answer" because we are not sending any signal aimed at "them" - plus the other side of this equation is, how can you be sure that they have NOT already answered? (Look up "the WOW signal" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal - since you say you are good at picking out patterns in what appears to be random numerals, take a look at it and see if you can pick out any patterns in that signal! )

A side note here amigo but most scientists already are convinced that we are NOT alone in the universe, the sheer number of stars and planets makes it extremely probable that other life exists, including intelligent life. The universe would be a tremendous waste of resources if no other life existed, and nature is not wasteful.

Blindbowman also wrote:

do you know what is really funny ...

there you are waiting for someone to show up

and i have been here the whole time watching waiting ,learning

i still am ...


think about it ......"bar codes "

Well amigo speaking only for myself, I don't have the time to sit here on T-net waiting for anyone else to show up, I just drop in when I have a chance and try to catch up on the conversation. Simply sitting by and not talking to our friends here is certainly not conducive to carrying a conversation, or settling anything. Sometimes I don't get you amigo.

Signed Yahoo #5 - Oroblanco

 

[whitt459]

me think b.b. done went off the deep end without a paddle (or boat) just my 2 cents ..whitt459

 

[the blindbowman]

Greetings amigos,

Blindbowman you are covering a lot of ground there in your theory, which is based on a set of six elements. I presume you are using the term "elements" as regards each part, not as to the elements as there are at least 117 of them. There are problems with your theory, which plainly you must see - for how can your theory allow for the existence of parallel universes? (Many scientists now think they do exist) According to the most popular idea about parallel universes, they can exist in the same space due to the fact that they are "out of phase" ie their vibration rates are different from the vibrations of matter in our own universe. In fact some tests have shown that at least one parallel universe must exist, as in their tests objects reacted to "something" when nothing should have been there. What about the fact that the average vibration rate of all matter has been increasing over time, which is contrary to all the laws of physics? I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact.

I have to agree with our friends here that this is getting fairly off-topic, and it is difficult to see how this could be connected to the main subject of your thread here, which has been the sites you found in the Superstition mountains. I would suggest that you publish your mathematical discovery in a peer-reviewed publication, where the main precepts could be discussed among those who are directly concerned with theory. Since you seem to believe that your fellow T-net members are so far below you in intellect, I would also suggest that you take the Mensa test, their web site has information on how to make arrangements to take their test: http://www.mensa.org/ that is, if you believe your IQ is among the top 2% of all people. You will find plenty of folks there who can discuss any subject you desire.

Blindbowman wrote:

well just for starters , if S.a.d.e . is trying to call out into space ,it would be nice to use the right frequency , dont you think ?

what if that is why they dont answer ... if we know how sound and light move we can control it ...what cant we do ...lol ..

Okay I will "bite" - what is "S.a.d.e" is that something like NASA or SETI? SETI is not beaming signals out into space, they are "listening" with radio telescopes. (SETI stands for "Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence" BTW) I would presume that "they don't answer" because we are not sending any signal aimed at "them" - plus the other side of this equation is, how can you be sure that they have NOT already answered? (Look up "the WOW signal" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal - since you say you are good at picking out patterns in what appears to be random numerals, take a look at it and see if you can pick out any patterns in that signal! )

A side note here amigo but most scientists already are convinced that we are NOT alone in the universe, the sheer number of stars and planets makes it extremely probable that other life exists, including intelligent life. The universe would be a tremendous waste of resources if no other life existed, and nature is not wasteful.

Blindbowman also wrote:

do you know what is really funny ...

there you are waiting for someone to show up

and i have been here the whole time watching waiting ,learning

i still am ...


think about it ......"bar codes "

Well amigo speaking only for myself, I don't have the time to sit here on T-net waiting for anyone else to show up, I just drop in when I have a chance and try to catch up on the conversation. Simply sitting by and not talking to our friends here is certainly not conducive to carrying a conversation, or settling anything. Sometimes I don't get you amigo.

Signed Yahoo #5 - Oroblanco

"I presume you are using the term "elements" as regards each part"

you are correct the 6 elements in question are the 5th fundmental element now 6 , the same fundmental elements that Pythagoras ,and Plato,and Thomas Young researched ...sad thing is they make little common sence when they are not in the correct order .and only when the 5th element defines this order is their true order under stood...

"for how can your theory allow for the existence of parallel universes"

you must be confused my friend there are trillion apone trillion of these binary worms and each has its own frequency and all that we know and well ever know could fit in just one part of one frequency , the scale is to infinity in each frequency ....

"(Many scientists now think they do exist) "

i would be totally shocked if they did'nt ...lol

""out of phase"

let my discovery correct the statement . thet are not in same hormonic frequency ,thus we do not see them from this frequency , now we can under stand how spirits and gost cross chanle between these hormonic frequency .much like skip on a CB . but on a much more complex level , and yes i would agree . i did not put these patterns in place they are a fundmental structure of all matter geomathamatical formatts ...

"vibration"

let the 5th element correct this again , we are not talking about vibrations in that given trem . we are talking about hormonic frequency ,very diffrent set of values ,yet what you are talking about as vibration could reflect what is being seen in these hormonic frequency as basic oscillations..

"over time, which is contrary to all the laws of physics? I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact."

"which is contrary to all the laws of physics,"

lol only as those laws of physics applied before these pattern were discoverd . no one knew about them before now . some rewoking is in order lol ...the theoryies are going to change , they must becaue these pattern are now fact and they cause effects we dont even know about yet ...we are at the birth of a vast discovery into the prime sequence ,i found & defind it Aug 4th .. i am the only one that knew they were discoverd up till now ....and note

lets get one thing prefectly clear before this discovery is fully over looked ...

we are talking about a progressive series of multi patterns of numerical geomatrical hormonic frequency that are in at lest in 6 elemental diffrent levels that start at atomic structure and add ,subtract ,divid and multiply into infinity .....i dont think you get the full scale of this discovery yet ...just IMHo ...


"I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact."

i am not surprized you fail to see the complexity ,some of the greatest minds in the history of the human race could not see them at all ...

we dont have enough back grond about these discoveries to give us a full under standing of their over all value yet . but one thing is totally clear , they are there and they are real .. and they are fact !

i can not change that ... no one can ... fact is there are patterns and very very complex patterns we had no idea even existed ...beyond a few wshfull theories ....

dont get me wrong i fully under stand where you are comeing from . and i fully agree .. there is going to be a masive amont of questions to be ask and many unanswerd questions ahead about these discoveries .....

it still will not change the fact the patterns are now a reality ...

what do they mean ...lets find out !

do you know why i picked that question to answer '

the 5th element came from the time of Atlantis ...

remeber the great crystal of light the most powerful weapon ever known to Atlantis ...guess what i found ...lol

i agree . i should go to another site .. take care my friend ...stay safe stay free

 

[the blindbowman]

" Since you seem to believe that your fellow T-net members are so far below you in intellect"

how do you come up with that idea .. i dont concern my self with things like that if that is how you see me then you are confused as to who and what i am...


"all that the human race will ever know or think it knows will pass in the blink of a eye ..."

i am only a commoner ..... who am i to judge anyone ...

" ink on a page of many pages "

because you implied ..

i feel you are all great people in your own right . each showing some of the best qualities of the human race . even tho the topics bring out your worst ,your worst is often better then most ..
i respect you all even CJ for standing his own ground ..

my ruler is infinity, i will judge no other .. they will not let me judge you even if could ,i could not ...dont ask ...

 

[Cubfan64]

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[Peerless67]

Hello my cyber treasure hunting friends, whats new?

 

[the blindbowman]

ill save the world tomorrow ,....lol today i put my 1976 gl1000 on the road after a 700 hour restore it ran like it was made yesterday . i enjoyed every secound of the 71 miles i put on it this after noon ...

it was totally sweet . it now has 2903 miles .. treasure is where you find it ... i had a great day .. you all take care and stay safe stay free

 

[Oroblanco]

Re: the everything site ...? LONG post extra coffee alert..

HOLA amigos,

Blindbowman wrote:

(Oroblanco wrote) "for how can your theory allow for the existence of parallel universes"

you must be confused my friend there are trillion apone trillion of these binary worms and each has its own frequency and all that we know and well ever know could fit in just one part of one frequency , the scale is to infinity in each frequency ....

I must be confused? A scale of infinity also includes 'zero' so in your version, are there particles of matter that are absolutely stationary?

Blindbowman also wrote:

let my discovery correct the statement . thet are not in same hormonic frequency ,thus we do not see them from this frequency , now we can under stand how spirits and gost cross chanle between these hormonic frequency .much like skip on a CB . but on a much more complex level , and yes i would agree . i did not put these patterns in place they are a fundmental structure of all matter geomathamatical formatts ...

So are you saying that other dimensions (an alternate theory of how "spirits" can seemingly appear and disappear at will, pass through walls etc since they are in another dimension where these are not obstacles) do not exist beyond those we already know about? Some scientists have theorized that there are at least six other dimensions that we are not able to detect at the moment.

Blindbowman also wrote:

"vibration"

let the 5th element correct this again , we are not talking about vibrations in that given trem . we are talking about hormonic frequency ,very diffrent set of values ,yet what you are talking about as vibration could reflect what is being seen in these hormonic frequency as basic oscillations..

Harmonic frequency is by definition a type of vibration amigo, and everything has an harmonic frequency.

Blindbowman also wrote:

"which is contrary to all the laws of physics,"

lol only as those laws of physics applied before these pattern were discoverd . no one knew about them before now . some rewoking is in order lol ...the theoryies are going to change , they must becaue these pattern are now fact and they cause effects we dont even know about yet ...we are at the birth of a vast discovery into the prime sequence ,i found & defind it Aug 4th .. i am the only one that knew they were discoverd up till now ....and note

No one knew about them before now? Are you quite certain of that statement amigo? We all know the basic laws of physics, and one of them is that an object in motion tends to remain in motion (unless acted upon by friction, gravity, outside forces) NOT that it would speed up in motion, which is what all matter in the universe has been doing over time since it has been measured (which was not yesterday amigo). So this has been a puzzling problem for physicists, how to explain why matter would be increasing in vibration rates over time, when the laws of physics should have the vibration rates remaining the same OR slowing down. I respectfully disagree with you about whom and when the vibration rates were first discovered.

Blindbowman also wrote:

lets get one thing prefectly clear before this discovery is fully over looked ...

we are talking about a progressive series of multi patterns of numerical geomatrical hormonic frequency that are in at lest in 6 elemental diffrent levels that start at atomic structure and add ,subtract ,divid and multiply into infinity .....i dont think you get the full scale of this discovery yet ...just IMHo ...

Well my apologies if that is your perception, but your discovery is not yet proven amigo. This is why I suggested publishing your new theory in a scientific, peer-reviewed publication - perhaps New Scientist magazine if you are not comfortable submitting your work to a purely scholarly periodical.

Blindbowman also wrote:

<Oroblanco wrote>"I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact."

i am not surprized you fail to see the complexity ,some of the greatest minds in the history of the human race could not see them at all ...

we dont have enough back grond about these discoveries to give us a full under standing of their over all value yet . but one thing is totally clear , they are there and they are real .. and they are fact !

You are assuming that I "fail to see the complexity" which is incorrect amigo - and I still do not see how your version of the universe, even with an infinite range of vibration rate frequencies, allows for the possible existence of alterate universes occupying the exact same space and time.

Blindbowman also wrote:

it still will not change the fact the patterns are now a reality ...

what do they mean ...lets find out !

do you know why i picked that question to answer '

the 5th element came from the time of Atlantis ...

remeber the great crystal of light the most powerful weapon ever known to Atlantis ...guess what i found ...lol

i agree . i should go to another site .. take care my friend ...stay safe stay free

How could the fifth element have come from the time of Atlantis? Wouldn't it have been in existence from the first moment of the existence of the Universe, if it exists at all? Or do you mean that the people of the time of Atlantis were aware of the fifth element?

Also, Blindbowman - I did not tell you to go to another site amigo, what I was pointing out was that you are among a group of treasure hunters here - not a group of physicists. To give you an example of what I mean, for instance I love to go fishing, and am sure that other treasure hunters also love to go fishing - but if I were going to discuss fishing in depth, it would likely be more productive to discuss fishing in a fishing forum and not among a group of treasure hunters in the "Treasure Legends" board section. You see what I am getting at here amigo? I don't mind talking about almost any subject but - not everyone is into every subject, and some might be "into" it but not to the 'depth' that others are.

Blindbowman also wrote:

<Oroblanco wrote>" Since you seem to believe that your fellow T-net members are so far below you in intellect"

how do you come up with that idea .. i dont concern my self with things like that if that is how you see me then you are confused as to who and what i am...
.

I get that from your own words amigo. You have made numerous statements about how intelligent you are, including saying that you, in four hours, surpassed all the efforts of combined humanity over 2500 years in solving the problem. Some folks might take that as a boast as well as implying that everyone else is NOT on your level. I am certain that how we are in reality is often far different from how we appear on the internet, and have tried to be patient with you amigo and have tried to understand your theories and you, but if you feel that you are SO far above everyone here that we cannot hope to grasp your ideas, then perhaps you would enjoy talking with the members of Mensa? I think you will find the members there to be pretty intelligent. Of course if you want to talk TREASURES, maps, codes, etc then you belong here amigo, not talking with a bunch of pure-theory eggheads!

Blindbowman also wrote:

"all that the human race will ever know or think it knows will pass in the blink of a eye ..."

i am only a commoner ..... who am i to judge anyone ...

The quote you have posted is not my words amigo, I believe they are from one of your earlier posts?

Blindbowman also wrote:

" ink on a page of many pages "

because you implied ..

i feel you are all great people in your own right . each showing some of the best qualities of the human race . even tho the topics bring out your worst ,your worst is often better then most ..
i respect you all even CJ for standing his own ground ..

my ruler is infinity, i will judge no other .. they will not let me judge you even if could ,i could not ...dont ask ..

Okay your quoted passage "ink on a page of many pages" is also not my words amigo, not sure where that came from. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is a good code of conduct for many people.

So how does your theory dovetail in with the sites you found in the Superstition mountains my friend? Is there linkage in some way? Thank you in advance...
your friend,
Oroblanco
PS Dang it I forgot this part...

Blindbowman wrote:

today i put my 1976 gl1000 on the road after a 700 hour restore it ran like it was made yesterday . i enjoyed every secound of the 71 miles i put on it this after noon ...

May I say - NICE bike amigo, and glad to hear that you are enjoying it! I will echo your own words - "stay safe, stay free".

 

[Peerless67]

QUOTE: "my theory is beyond our normal under standing of the principles of sound and light as we know them , it defines that light has no nuetronic weight values ...and this inturn explans why light excellerates ...beyond the normal rates of sound partical waves ..." all atomic matter must apply to the 5th element "



It was my understanding that light is being "bent" by gravitational pull in the universe. For that to happen it must have a weight.
Also scientists have recently paused a beam of light momentarily, for them to do that would have required them to affect its movement and therefor the photons that are contained in light must contain a value of weight even though that value may be extremely low.

This article is not one of the best but there are several availiable if you do a search.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3308109.stm

 

[the blindbowman]

you dont have to take it at all .
nether do i !
how disapionting ..

 

[the blindbowman]

QUOTE: "my theory is beyond our normal under standing of the principles of sound and light as we know them , it defines that light has no nuetronic weight values ...and this inturn explans why light excellerates ...beyond the normal rates of sound partical waves ..." all atomic matter must apply to the 5th element "



It was my understanding that light is being "bent" by gravitational pull in the universe. For that to happen it must have a weight.
Also scientists have recently paused a beam of light momentarily, for them to do that would have required them to affect its movement and therefor the photons that are contained in light must contain a value of weight even though that value may be extremely low.

This article is not one of the best but there are several availiable if you do a search.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3308109.stm

the effects of mag are the 3 element and superceed the 5th element as far as current and flow of mag goes ...and there only showing the cause and effects of mag on light . and reread what i stated . "no nuetronic weight values "

your reply is good way to under stand the effects of mag on light not the weight of nuetronic values in light ...but this dose tell us the protons and electrons can be effected even if the light has no nuetronic weight values light can still be effect by mag

 

[the blindbowman]

Re: the everything site ...? LONG post extra coffee alert..

HOLA amigos,

Blindbowman wrote:

(Oroblanco wrote) "for how can your theory allow for the existence of parallel universes"

you must be confused my friend there are trillion apone trillion of these binary worms and each has its own frequency and all that we know and well ever know could fit in just one part of one frequency , the scale is to infinity in each frequency ....

I must be confused? A scale of infinity also includes 'zero' so in your version, are there particles of matter that are absolutely stationary?

Blindbowman also wrote:

let my discovery correct the statement . thet are not in same hormonic frequency ,thus we do not see them from this frequency , now we can under stand how spirits and gost cross chanle between these hormonic frequency .much like skip on a CB . but on a much more complex level , and yes i would agree . i did not put these patterns in place they are a fundmental structure of all matter geomathamatical formatts ...

So are you saying that other dimensions (an alternate theory of how "spirits" can seemingly appear and disappear at will, pass through walls etc since they are in another dimension where these are not obstacles) do not exist beyond those we already know about? Some scientists have theorized that there are at least that we are not able to detect at the moment.

Blindbowman also wrote:

"vibration"

let the 5th element correct this again , we are not talking about vibrations in that given trem . we are talking about hormonic frequency ,very diffrent set of values ,yet what you are talking about as vibration could reflect what is being seen in these hormonic frequency as basic oscillations..

Harmonic frequency is by definition a type of vibration amigo, and everything has an harmonic frequency.

Blindbowman also wrote:

"which is contrary to all the laws of physics,"

lol only as those laws of physics applied before these pattern were discoverd . no one knew about them before now . some rewoking is in order lol ...the theoryies are going to change , they must becaue these pattern are now fact and they cause effects we dont even know about yet ...we are at the birth of a vast discovery into the prime sequence ,i found & defind it Aug 4th .. i am the only one that knew they were discoverd up till now ....and note

No one knew about them before now? Are you quite certain of that statement amigo? We all know the basic laws of physics, and one of them is that an object in motion tends to remain in motion (unless acted upon by friction, gravity, outside forces) NOT that it would speed up in motion, which is what all matter in the universe has been doing over time since it has been measured (which was not yesterday amigo). So this has been a puzzling problem for physicists, how to explain why matter would be increasing in vibration rates over time, when the laws of physics should have the vibration rates remaining the same OR slowing down. I respectfully disagree with you about whom and when the vibration rates were first discovered.

Blindbowman also wrote:

lets get one thing prefectly clear before this discovery is fully over looked ...

we are talking about a progressive series of multi patterns of numerical geomatrical hormonic frequency that are in at lest in 6 elemental diffrent levels that start at atomic structure and add ,subtract ,divid and multiply into infinity .....i dont think you get the full scale of this discovery yet ...just IMHo ...

Well my apologies if that is your perception, but your discovery is not yet proven amigo. This is why I suggested publishing your new theory in a scientific, peer-reviewed publication - perhaps New Scientist magazine if you are not comfortable submitting your work to a purely scholarly periodical.

Blindbowman also wrote:

<Oroblanco wrote>"I fail to see how your version will allow for this vibration rate problem, which is an undisputed fact."

i am not surprized you fail to see the complexity ,some of the greatest minds in the history of the human race could not see them at all ...

we dont have enough back grond about these discoveries to give us a full under standing of their over all value yet . but one thing is totally clear , they are there and they are real .. and they are fact !

You are assuming that I "fail to see the complexity" which is incorrect amigo - and I still do not see how your version of the universe, even with an infinite range of vibration rate frequencies, allows for the possible existence of alterate universes occupying the exact same space and time.

Blindbowman also wrote:

it still will not change the fact the patterns are now a reality ...

what do they mean ...lets find out !

do you know why i picked that question to answer '

the 5th element came from the time of Atlantis ...

remeber the great crystal of light the most powerful weapon ever known to Atlantis ...guess what i found ...lol

i agree . i should go to another site .. take care my friend ...stay safe stay free

How could the fifth element have come from the time of Atlantis? Wouldn't it have been in existence from the first moment of the existence of the Universe, if it exists at all? Or do you mean that the people of the time of Atlantis were aware of the fifth element?

Also, Blindbowman - I did not tell you to go to another site amigo, what I was pointing out was that you are among a group of treasure hunters here - not a group of physicists. To give you an example of what I mean, for instance I love to go fishing, and am sure that other treasure hunters also love to go fishing - but if I were going to discuss fishing in depth, it would likely be more productive to discuss fishing in a fishing forum and not among a group of treasure hunters in the "Treasure Legends" board section. You see what I am getting at here amigo? I don't mind talking about almost any subject but - not everyone is into every subject, and some might be "into" it but not to the 'depth' that others are.

Blindbowman also wrote:

<Oroblanco wrote>" Since you seem to believe that your fellow T-net members are so far below you in intellect"

how do you come up with that idea .. i dont concern my self with things like that if that is how you see me then you are confused as to who and what i am...
.

I get that from your own words amigo. You have made numerous statements about how intelligent you are, including saying that you, in four hours, surpassed all the efforts of combined humanity over 2500 years in solving the problem. Some folks might take that as a boast as well as implying that everyone else is NOT on your level. I am certain that how we are in reality is often far different from how we appear on the internet, and have tried to be patient with you amigo and have tried to understand your theories and you, but if you feel that you are SO far above everyone here that we cannot hope to grasp your ideas, then perhaps you would enjoy talking with the members of Mensa? I think you will find the members there to be pretty intelligent. Of course if you want to talk TREASURES, maps, codes, etc then you belong here amigo, not talking with a bunch of pure-theory eggheads!

Blindbowman also wrote:

"all that the human race will ever know or think it knows will pass in the blink of a eye ..."

i am only a commoner ..... who am i to judge anyone ...

The quote you have posted is not my words amigo, I believe they are from one of your earlier posts?

Blindbowman also wrote:

" ink on a page of many pages "

because you implied ..

i feel you are all great people in your own right . each showing some of the best qualities of the human race . even tho the topics bring out your worst ,your worst is often better then most ..
i respect you all even CJ for standing his own ground ..

my ruler is infinity, i will judge no other .. they will not let me judge you even if could ,i could not ...dont ask ..

Okay your quoted passage "ink on a page of many pages" is also not my words amigo, not sure where that came from. "Judge not lest ye be judged" is a good code of conduct for many people.

So how does your theory dovetail in with the sites you found in the Superstition mountains my friend? Is there linkage in some way? Thank you in advance...
your friend,
Oroblanco
PS Dang it I forgot this part...

Blindbowman wrote:

today i put my 1976 gl1000 on the road after a 700 hour restore it ran like it was made yesterday . i enjoyed every secound of the 71 miles i put on it this after noon ...

May I say - NICE bike amigo, and glad to hear that you are enjoying it! I will echo your own words - "stay safe, stay free".

" I must be confused? A scale of infinity also includes 'zero' so in your version, are there particles of matter that are absolutely stationary? "

all matter is absolutely stationary unless effected by the 5th element . if matter can not move with out sound it can still grow . if it grows it must cause sound . it can not grow with out makeing sound ...thus no if you mean movement or yes if you dont count the growth as movement lol .. your logical answer is no there is no absolutely stationary...there must be at one piont of matter yet it is so lemited it has little to no effect on matter or antimatter...

Some scientists have theorized that there are at least six other dimensions that we are not able to detect at the moment

i would beleive there are a infinity of dimensions
Harmonic frequency is by definition a type of vibration amigo, and everything has an harmonic frequency.

i under stand what your asking but i dont have a clear cut answer for you . the effects of the 5th element are not like anything i have seen in the past yet i use sound as a way to relate the causes and effect yet they do not beheave as sound we know of ...these harmonics are sound yet they effect matter and atomic sub structure where do you draw the line .. i couldnt find any level the 5th element did not effect ..so if sound and light have this cohesion can we rule out the sound dose not become light ...?

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA amigos,

I remind you that I am not a physicist, nor a mathematician, so am not really the best judge of such theories. I beg your indulgence for this reply.

Blindbowman wrote:

all matter is absolutely stationary unless effected by the 5th element . if matter can not move with out sound it can still grow . if it grows it must cause sound

Hmm I must break this down as it is three separate and distinct statements, which I find that I am in (respectful) disagreement. First,
all matter is absolutely stationary unless effected by the 5th element .

This is based on the assumption that the fifth element exists, and the evidence of science would refute that all matter is absolutely stationary. In fact all molecules are in motion, all of the universe is in motion; the speed of the motion is affected by gravity, magnetism, heat (speeding up) and cold (slowing down) even light has an effect. According to my old physics books (which I cannot reach at the moment) the only way that matter could be absolutely stationary would be if it were cooled to the temperature of absolute zero, which has been virtually impossible to reach even in the best labs.

Next,

if matter can not move with out sound it can still grow

Matter moves without sound all the time amigo - again referring to the universe, all of the stars and planets are in motion, and in the virtual vacuum of space no sound is emitted. Closer to home, take a look at the clouds passing overhead amigo - they make no sound whatsoever even though it is often thousands of tons of water vapor moving at twenty miles per hour or more. The second part of your statement - that matter can still "grow" without making sound, how can matter "grow"? Are you saying that I could take a lump of gold, lay it on the kitchen table and watch it grow? This makes no sense to me - please explain how matter can "grow"?

And the third part;

if it grows it must cause sound

Well this is also quite puzzling amigo, for firstly how can matter grow, and how could the simple act of growth cause sound to be emitted? Sound is the result of vibrations of matter, causing waves of disturbance in the air in a pattern mimicking the vibration of the matter. How could growth cause such sound vibrations to be emitted? I have a little experiment for you to try amigo - mix up a batch of bread dough, making sure to add fresh yeast to the dough. Place the mixed dough in a bowl and set it next to you, then while the dough is growing (rising) see if you can hear any sound being emitted. Place a plastic bottle of water in the freezer, allowing it to freeze solid - and though the water is in fact "growing" (expanding as it freezes) it is unlikely that the action of growth will cause sound, unless the bottle cracks or the ice is too compressed and cracks from the tension. Please explain your statement a little further?

Blindbowman also wrote:

your logical answer is no there is no absolutely stationary...

Then you have a paradox amigo, for you have already said that there is an infinite range of frequencies, and infinite includes zero - so there ought to be particles that are absolutely stationary according to your theory. If there are no particles with zero frequency, then it is not an infinite range of frequencies but a limited set. Then we must define what that set (range) is, from the lowest frequency to the highest.

Blilndbowman also wrote:

i would beleive there are a infinity of dimensions

Wow - have you thought about that and what that would mean? Quite a position you are staking there amigo!

Blindbowman also wrote:

these harmonics are sound yet they effect matter and atomic sub structure where do you draw the line .. i couldnt find any level the 5th element did not effect ..so if sound and light have this cohesion can we rule out the sound dose not become light ...?

Why must the harmonics be sound? Science defines sound as
"Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing. b. Transmitted vibrations of any frequency. c. The sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium. d. Such sensations considered as a group. "

This limits SOUND to a frequency range of 20 hz to 20,000 hertz, vibrations outside these ranges are not considered sound but simply vibrations. As light frequencies run from 3 <x10 14> hz to 15 <x1014> hz the range is simply too far out of the range of sound. Even if you had sound at higher than 20,000 hz, it would be inaudible and technically would not be sound.

On the flip side of this, Alex Bell did some great experiments with light and sound, modulating the sound waves into light pulses making a "photo-phone" which was pretty impressive for his day.

So how does this tie in with your sites amigo? Did you get the idea from one of the sites, or from your research concerning the sites? It seems like you changed the subject rather drastically, and I cannot see the connection to the sites which we had been discussing. Can you clarify this for me? Thank you in advance,
your friend,
Oroblanco

 

[the blindbowman]

HOLA amigos,

I remind you that I am not a physicist, nor a mathematician, so am not really the best judge of such theories. I beg your indulgence for this reply.

Blindbowman wrote:

all matter is absolutely stationary unless effected by the 5th element . if matter can not move with out sound it can still grow . if it grows it must cause sound

Hmm I must break this down as it is three separate and distinct statements, which I find that I am in (respectful) disagreement. First,
all matter is absolutely stationary unless effected by the 5th element .

This is based on the assumption that the fifth element exists, and the evidence of science would refute that all matter is absolutely stationary. In fact all molecules are in motion, all of the universe is in motion; the speed of the motion is affected by gravity, magnetism, heat (speeding up) and cold (slowing down) even light has an effect. According to my old physics books (which I cannot reach at the moment) the only way that matter could be absolutely stationary would be if it were cooled to the temperature of absolute zero, which has been virtually impossible to reach even in the best labs.

Next,

if matter can not move with out sound it can still grow

Matter moves without sound all the time amigo - again referring to the universe, all of the stars and planets are in motion, and in the virtual vacuum of space no sound is emitted. Closer to home, take a look at the clouds passing overhead amigo - they make no sound whatsoever even though it is often thousands of tons of water vapor moving at twenty miles per hour or more. The second part of your statement - that matter can still "grow" without making sound, how can matter "grow"? Are you saying that I could take a lump of gold, lay it on the kitchen table and watch it grow? This makes no sense to me - please explain how matter can "grow"?

And the third part;

if it grows it must cause sound

Well this is also quite puzzling amigo, for firstly how can matter grow, and how could the simple act of growth cause sound to be emitted? Sound is the result of vibrations of matter, causing waves of disturbance in the air in a pattern mimicking the vibration of the matter. How could growth cause such sound vibrations to be emitted? I have a little experiment for you to try amigo - mix up a batch of bread dough, making sure to add fresh yeast to the dough. Place the mixed dough in a bowl and set it next to you, then while the dough is growing (rising) see if you can hear any sound being emitted. Place a plastic bottle of water in the freezer, allowing it to freeze solid - and though the water is in fact "growing" (expanding as it freezes) it is unlikely that the action of growth will cause sound, unless the bottle cracks or the ice is too compressed and cracks from the tension. Please explain your statement a little further?

Blindbowman also wrote:

your logical answer is no there is no absolutely stationary...

Then you have a paradox amigo, for you have already said that there is an infinite range of frequencies, and infinite includes zero - so there ought to be particles that are absolutely stationary according to your theory. If there are no particles with zero frequency, then it is not an infinite range of frequencies but a limited set. Then we must define what that set (range) is, from the lowest frequency to the highest.

Blilndbowman also wrote:

i would beleive there are a infinity of dimensions

Wow - have you thought about that and what that would mean? Quite a position you are staking there amigo!

Blindbowman also wrote:

these harmonics are sound yet they effect matter and atomic sub structure where do you draw the line .. i couldnt find any level the 5th element did not effect ..so if sound and light have this cohesion can we rule out the sound dose not become light ...?

Why must the harmonics be sound? Science defines sound as
"Vibrations transmitted through an elastic solid or a liquid or gas, with frequencies in the approximate range of 20 to 20,000 hertz, capable of being detected by human organs of hearing. b. Transmitted vibrations of any frequency. c. The sensation stimulated in the organs of hearing by such vibrations in the air or other medium. d. Such sensations considered as a group. "

This limits SOUND to a frequency range of 20 hz to 20,000 hertz, vibrations outside these ranges are not considered sound but simply vibrations. As light frequencies run from 3 <x10 14> hz to 15 <x1014> hz the range is simply too far out of the range of sound. Even if you had sound at higher than 20,000 hz, it would be inaudible and technically would not be sound.

On the flip side of this, Alex Bell did some great experiments with light and sound, modulating the sound waves into light pulses making a "photo-phone" which was pretty impressive for his day.

So how does this tie in with your sites amigo? Did you get the idea from one of the sites, or from your research concerning the sites? It seems like you changed the subject rather drastically, and I cannot see the connection to the sites which we had been discussing. Can you clarify this for me? Thank you in advance,
your friend,
Oroblanco

"and the evidence of science would refute that all matter is absolutely stationary"

sad ....now i know you dont want me to answer this question but you ask ...

thats a trick question .. are talking about the effects of the other frist 4 elements moveing atomic matter or are we talking about the matter moveing it self ...? growing or moveing on your own is something diffrent ....yes we are define a paradox . when we say matter can grow and move yet remain still or move by other forces ...so gravity can move a atomic molecule yet the molecule is not moveing under its own power to a diffrent location . not asking if it is moveing by growth of its own size ....thus a the frist 4 element can effect motion on something that is absolutely stationary of its own makeing ...

"the speed of the motion is affected by gravity, magnetism, heat (speeding up) and cold (slowing down) even light has an effect.

you have just listed 4 of the other elements .. see my piont ...

its funny how the 5th element works we dont see it with the eye so we often over look it ..

"the only way that matter could be absolutely stationary would be if it were cooled to the temperature of absolute zero, which has been virtually impossible to reach even in the best labs. "

no if you wanted to have absolutely stationary of atomic matter and the volume around it ,that would work..

with the under standing that even the box that contains the test effects the out come ...so it may only work in thoery...


"again referring to the universe"
the volume of the universe is what is moveing ,not the matter it self under its own causes & effects ...

"they make no sound whatsoever "

that we can hear as humans .. and what is to say the sound they are makeing is not at a magnetic level .. maybe the cloud air mass reacts like a capacitor thus the sound is not released untill it reaches a level that over welms the volume ..creating thunder under the right conditions


"This makes no sense to me - please explain how matter can "grow"?

the 5th element defines all matter grows .. from within .. if you waited for a few million years yes you might be able to messure the growth under the right conditions

look at it this way if matter did not grow it could not exspan ether or contract ...we think of matter of a object as developed ,yet matter is always moveing and growing .. even if we see it as absolutely stationary within a volume .thats what makes this discovery diffrent . it explans what we dont see ...

even if we dont see something it dose not mean that it dosent effect what we do see ..

"and how could the simple act of growth cause sound to be emitted? "

think of the earth being a large cell of atomic matter . dose the earth contract and exspan ,yes . dose it make sound when it dose ... yes ...

atomic matter exspans and contracts when it dose it causes movement in the volume that surounds it , thus friction. the friction is a type of sound that applies to one or more of the fundmental elements

i cant say these 5th element dosent take some time to under stand how it works . its new to me as well . i have never pictured atomic matter in this way being effected by something of this nature, but i never saw it ... because it cant be seen with the naked eye ,and we as humans are to fast to dismiss things we can not see or under stand beyond what we are told we should judge by the opioions of others , it dosent mean those people were right ,,,...lol


"Then you have a paradox amigo,

yes in fact it is a multi paradox , IMHO it reflects the fundmentals of atomic structure


(+) EVEN

(N) nuetronic (+-,-+)

(-) odd

let me ask you a question ...(+-,-+) are these the same (-+,+-) or do they react diffrent to the values around them or to a over all pattern when the order is change...?

i agree but the human life span is not long enough to collect that data ....lol


"Wow - have you thought about that and what that would mean? Quite a position you are staking there amigo!"

yes i did ,and i state that for a few searons ... one if i can think i can reflect back into time ,to a given place in time is one thing yet reacting to others when i am their and haveing them react to causes and effects rules it out as just inner mind illusions .... if we see a gost , it is particals traped time if it can happen to them it must be able to happen to us .. under the right given conditions . but we see them traped in a very small scale of conditions yet look around you here in this reality the conditions are infinity , thus they must be infinity there we just dont see them because of the lemitations of transfer between the two realities when are trying to focus on at the time . when often try to judge effects and events by the local conditions around the effects or events , this lemits our ablities to define these effects and event correctly ...and often lemits our insights beyond our own under standing set forth by the realities of our own nature here in this reality , we just dont have a better under standing of what those other realities are so we often over look hem or fail to relate to them ...

you say remote veiwing . i know i go way beyond that .. because even if dont go back in time dose my mind know that ... lol .. see my piont .. what i see and hear . comes from a related condition that takes place back in time even if i never leave . my mind under stands where is am in the vission and it builds the events as they would take place by logic ...it dose nt mean i have to go back in time to have my mind under stand the conditions of the time and events of the past ..

knowing time and space is reachable in this manner .. there must be a infinity of realies ..way beyond anything we could ever dream of ...note , i will give you a taste of what i am talking about to help you under stand ,, we are standing at the grave site of the nephew . we picture the event of his shoting . we see the sun of the morning day starting . we picture the anger between the two waltz and the jessy,... next thing we know are mind is watching the blood run down jessy's face as he falls . we can be jessy or waltz at any time we wish to ... with the under standing fear will end our vission .. yet only if we fear death or danger .. let your mind build the vission and dirrection it goes . correct it if you know something that dse .. but your mind can tell you what is happpening as well as leting you relive what waltz did back then .. but when conditioned to think like waltz your mind reacts as he did ... it becomes so defind to what tyhe vission is over time , each time you step into the vission you can add more or change it ... thus you see the events with a insight .only waltz and jessy could ever know ...dont under stand the history of waltz .. become one with him and be waltz why the vission is being conditioned to reflect what is known in the hopes of under standing the coditions that took place at the time of the real event thus . you in all prospective relive the event your self ..it dosent matter if you go back in time your mind well never know it any way .. it cant tell the diffrence ..

this is miles beyond the under standing of normal realities .. yet i walk threw time as if it were today ...


i was talking to pythagoras and a few others i dont remember their names right of hand .. but . we was telling me atlas , had been the frist king of atlantis and he showed me a map of atlantis . i told him i know where that is and he stated what he knew a bout the events that had taken pplace back then ...when i said we dont fully under stand how this took place he stated the ocean rive ended at atlantis before it sank . the map he showed me was made from the map of the codex i found and it was to the same scale as the codex .. he lol when he ask how do you know this scale .i lol and said only the smart under stand it ...

see if his map was his or my mind related the two i would not have know the two were related .. but my mind did .. even if i was not conscious of the fact i knew it ,,thus i open a path to the un conscious part of the mind

dirrect your vission to the right time and place and it will open your sub conscious to for fill your vission ... you may know more then you think you do ....lol

 

[Furness]

This is my first post, i had intended it being much longer, but i can't find anywhere to intro myself,

and Oro has already answered BB on most of them,

all i will add at this point is that BB's claim that he has discovered the fifth element is about two years to late,
it was discovered and is being worked on at the present time in The US and probably by now in other countries by any number of mathematicians and physicists,

with regards his pattern to prime numbers this was discovered with a couple of years of primes and is only applicable at the lower levels of primes, once you get past i think its the 1,262nd prime the pattern disappears, it is followed further up the number sequence as other patterns emerge, but as with the first one then disappear's and is only applicable to a short sequence of numbers,
there is no overall pattern that can be used to work them out,

primes are as stated in any maths book an integer that cannot be divided into other integers except by itself or 1
primes are nothing more than a series of numbers and have no bearing on any atomic freqency or action, and as far as is known not related to any action at any level except in there own right as a mathematical oddity, the only use to which they have so far been used is for secure data encryption,

J's

 

[Peerless67]

Hi Furness welcome, I thought the 5th element was boron and thats the way its going.

 

[Furness]

Hi Peerless, thanks for the welcome,

i wasn't referring to the 5th element in the periodic table but the 5th element that BB has posted about,

It was something i read a couple of years ago and did,nt really pay a great deal of attention to it,
it was one of those items where the headline on the paper was anything spectacular to sell it, and the mention of the 5th element was a couple of column inches on page five,

js

 

[Furness]

Looking through the posts perhaps 5th dimension may be a better discription,

js

 

[the blindbowman]

LOL ......