the everything site ...?

cavemen chipped on rocks maybe they made the stones ... who knows what they said ...who cares ...lol

imho the priest of tayopa church made the stones ...between the years of 1595 and 1609 ...

let me explan why i said that .. for one the codex shows spanish looting the secerd place , but one thing we do know if i am right the loot never left the area , they were massacred and the objects returned to the site along with the bodies of the dead ...as one acount clearly stated could explan the events ..


we know the objects of the looting never show up in public veiw .

and we know the stones were made around that time .. because of the ageig of the writting ..

cj the preson you say made the stones may have said a lot of things that dosent mean he made the stone . ruth said veni vidi vici did he met the man that said it frist,,,....i dont think so ...lol

you didnt stated why you beleive he could have made the stones ...?
 

HOLA amigos,

Gossamer wrote:
Oro darlin'... tell us more about the lives you believe you were in! I loved the story about the time during the Hannibal campaigns.
Any of you guys have a feeling or a attachment to a particular time, person etc.
Lets here the stories.

<Blush> ;D :D I am glad you enjoyed the story, but will refrain from testing the patience and credulity of our friends here this evening. Besides, it would be a very long post. I'm not sure if I believe they are real memories of past lives to be honest. I would like to hear others tell of their previous lives. :icon_farao: I think it would be interesting - especially since one theory has it that we are drawn to the places and things of our previous lives, which would explain a lot. If you like, we could start a thread in the "everything else" part of the forum and post the memories (or whatever they are) there? I don't want to offend our moderators by drifting too far off topic here.

Oroblanco
 

bb,

You said:

[cavemen chipped on rocks maybe they made the stones ... who knows what they said ...who cares ...lol

imho the priest of tayopa church made the stones ...between the years of 1595 and 1609 ...

let me explan why i said that .. for one the codex shows spanish looting the secerd place , but one thing we do know if i am right the loot never left the area , they were massacred and the objects returned to the site along with the bodies of the dead ...as one acount clearly stated could explan the events ..


we know the objects of the looting never show up in public veiw .

and we know the stones were made around that time .. because of the ageig of the writting ..

cj the preson you say made the stones may have said a lot of things that dosent mean he made the stone . ruth said veni vidi vici did he met the man that said it frist,,,....i dont think so ...lol

you didnt stated why you beleive he could have made the stones ...?]

You also said:

[This may be one of the most famous forgeries ever uncovered...., And the history of America


Yes you heard it here first, the date under the 1847 date is "1435"

The authenticity of the stones dates to "1435 "..... Yes, that's true Columbus did not discover America here's outright proof.......]
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Please spin these two posts into your final answer for us.
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"cj the preson you say made the stones may have said a lot of things that dosent mean he made the stone . ruth said veni vidi vici did he met the man that said it frist,,,....i dont think so ...lol

you didnt stated why you beleive he could have made the stones ...?"
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When you have researched the Superstition Mountains, the Stone Maps and the LDM as long as I have, you may have gathered enough circumstantial evidence to point to the true creators of the maps. It may be that you can shortcut that process with shamanistic powers, remote viewing or visions in a piece of quartz, but I don't have much confidence in your incantations.

With all of your occult/shamanistic powers, you were unable to see that the priest and horse map were two sides of the same stone. Not much magic required there.

Despite the fact that many of your old posts have gone to live with Jesus, some of us remember your many offers of "outright proof".

If my conclusions were only based on one short quote from "Hamlet", I would be...."lol" right along with you.
The maps were made by more than one person, all working together to complete the final product. While, IMHO, they were a hoax, that does not mean they did not show a treasure.

Focus your powers on Pancho Villa, and the men who betrayed him. Picture him destitute and nearing his last days. The Stone Maps, Harry LaFrance's cave of gold bars and a treasure removed from the Superstitions may all revolve around that betrayal. Tell us what happened. What did he dream of in those final days?

I hope this does not make you angry......again. It's just a game. :wink:

Thanks for your question.

Joe Ribaudo
 

i am glad i dont know you CJ . you would be a disappiontment to me ...



i know what the 1435 stood for and i dont care if you under stand what it means or not ...


i feel sorry for eople like you . spending 48 years searching ..for something you will most likely never find ...


i am no longer looking for any treasure and i dont really care about solveing any legends ..

i have done something and i am waiting to see if i am right ...


other then that we have nothing left to talk about . i dont like you ,i never have ... i dont really see why anyone would unless your totally diffrent in real live then you are here on the web site ..


i wish you luck and long life ... enough said ...
 

bb,

"i wish you luck and long life"

And I wish you the same.

We know each other in the exact same way. You know me from what I have posted, and I know you from what you have posted. Both of us have posted on other Forums, and we have added that to our personal knowledge of each other. On that basis alone, we have based our judgements of the other.

Except for those people who have met and know each other personally, we are all in the same boat. In this day of PC Speech, I will never be viewed as a nice person. Many who only knew me from the forums and then met me in person, were surprised to find that I was.......almost likeable. A few have become lifelong friends.

Your words, and mine, are the sole bearers of responsibility for what we think of each other. I can live with that. You have done everything in your power to intimidate me, from visions of my wife and I dying in a plane crash to hints that she might be ill, to outright threats.

No matter how many deletions you make, or outright removals of your more odious posts, the smell lingers on long after you have tried to erase you thoughts. If you fight the truth, it will eventually destroy you. You would be better served to move on with your life, and pray that it never catches up with you.

I wish you no ill will, as that is more feeling than I could possibly muster up for such a lost soul. As I have said before, I pray you will find someone who will convince you to seek help. There must be someone out there who loves you enough to face that tiger.

Take care,

Joe Ribaudo
 

HI JOE: You posted --->


find that I was.......almost likeable
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Hmmm, clarify, since I may be in the same boat on uncharted seas with only Oro to guide me, and he can't even find Atlantis, sheep yes, but Atlantis no..

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

Ah ... the boys are back!! I love it when the word volleys get going. Speaking of volleys, did any of you catch the Pres. meeting the women's volley ball team, one asked if he would swat her backside for good luck, he looked stunned and then declined to.
:walk:

CJ, you can be rough, but you stand with your word. Its good. I learn ... you are a character and that's what is great about this forum. I like it.
:icon_study:

BB ... reading you is like the one time I took (shhhhh acid) :tongue3:
... wavy ... then straight ... wavy ... then straight. I prayed so hard for it to go away, I promised I would never, ever do it again. I didn't. And I (fortunately) didn't have brain damage (from that), the trip lasted 18 hours), but I never, ever did it again. I was going somewhere with this... hmmm maybe I have been reading his stuff too much? Anyway I blew a huge modeling moment cuz I couldn't stand up and that didn't impress the photographer. Where am I going? I think I've been training on the remote viewing way too much. And I'm in a goofy mood anyway.
:icon_scratch:

Oro, yes lets start a line on the past lives ... and yes I believe that you are attracted to places and items and knowledge about things I shouldn't and I suspect you have the same c My reaction to the first time I witnessed the news of a book burning, was throwing up. I was only 14 at the time.

How do we start a thread? :icon_scratch:

Forgive the goofiness, just happy to see some postings.

Janiece :bunny:
 

Greetings friends,

Blindbowman wrote:
i am glad i dont know you CJ . you would be a disappiontment to me ...
<snip>
other then that we have nothing left to talk about . i dont like you ,i never have ... i dont really see why anyone would unless your totally diffrent in real live then you are here on the web site ..


i wish you luck and long life ... enough said ...

To which Cactusjumper replied:
bb,

"i wish you luck and long life"

And I wish you the same.

We know each other in the exact same way. You know me from what I have posted, and I know you from what you have posted <snip>
Except for those people who have met and know each other personally, we are all in the same boat. <snip>
Your words, and mine, are the sole bearers of responsibility for what we think of each other. I can live with that. You have done everything in your power to intimidate me, from visions of my wife and I dying in a plane crash to hints that she might be ill, to outright threats.
<snip>

Perhaps too much “hot” water has passed under that bridge to hope that you both could ever be friends, sad to see it go the way it has. I still think that if we were all to meet in person (like at one of the Rendezvous) that much of the ire could be forgotten.

Don Jose’, Dueno de Real e Minas de Tayopa wrote:
I may be in the same boat on uncharted seaswith only Oro to guide me, and he can't even find Atlantis, sheep yes, but Atlantis no..

Hmm, well I have indeed found what I think is Atlantis, and yes I did lose a flock of sheep for most of a day but did find them by sundown. By any chance do you know how to use a Sun-compass amigo?

Gossamer wrote:
Anyway I blew a huge modeling moment cuz I couldn't stand up and that didn't impress the photographer.

Yikes Janiece! You are going to give these boys some very interesting ideas not to mention vivid mental imagery!!!

Janiece also wrote:
Oro, yes lets start a line on the past lives ... and yes I believe that you are attracted to places and items and knowledge about things I shouldn't and I suspect you have the same c My reaction to the first time I witnessed the news of a book burning, was throwing up. I was only 14 at the time.

How do we start a thread?

It is easy enough – near the top of the ‘board’ in each forum there is a “start new topic” button right where it says “POST NEW TOPIC | MARK READ | NOTIFY ME! |ADD POLL. Heck I can make up a new topic on this subject in a moment – now done so here is the linkee and everyone is invited:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,174121.new.html#new

I look forward to reading others experiences, thank you in advance…
Oroblanco
 

My smooching ?? buddy ORO & BETH: You posted -->

By any chance do you know how to use a Sun-compass amigo?
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Are you referring to the mid day or the polar one? Have used both, as you have

Don Jose de La Mancha .
 

I know this isn't on topic, but I'm having trouble with my "Mail" here for some reason. Jeff doesn't know what the problem is and I haven't gotten any other advice.

For the last few days whenever I hit the "Mail" button when it tells me I have a PM, it just comes up to a blank screen. Tried logging in and out as well as a few other things and nothing has worked.

If you want to get ahold of me, I guess just e-mail me until I figure out what's wrong - hope I can get back in - I had a number of messages archived that were of real interest to me.
 

While you are at it, find out how to accept an offer to add some one to a buddy ?

Peeps ask me to add them to my buddy list, but no matter what I push, type, or do, I apparantly am not doing it correctly.

Sniff

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

i will explan what is happening and why ...

i am waiting for a local university mathamatics theory instructor to reply to my request to over see my discoveries ...

after many replies, i ask my self they maybe right , i have never tested my self ...to see what level i can reach ...


that said, i found a question to test my skills ...

for 2500 years some of the smartest mathamatians and scienceist ever known have not been able to define any discernible patterns in the regularities and irregularities in the distribution of prime numbers..

it took me 4 hours to fully brake down and define a number of progressive series of multi binary worms that cause these effects ..
but it did not end there ...

the patterns i found were a small part of a much greater " Prime sequence " of wave partical doality , mainly the same WPD that Albert Einstein based his WPD theory on .. the only problem is what i discovered is not in the same format as Albert Einstein beleived in his theory. it is a well known fact he rewrote his theory at lest 3 times for reasons unknown ... i beleive this is why he rewrote his theory .. he could not define the types of waves ,he only could prove they were there...


my discovery takes it far past that level and defines what the waves are and why these partterns reflect in the prime numbers ...


so far i have gone threw 3 diffrent levels of math teachers trying to find someone that can under stand math theorium at this level ..



i have corrected the theory of relativity ( E=M(S/L)5th ) with a notation to the 5th element .) ..in fact with this new under standing of the 5th element i have define the frist 6 elements ..
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(energy = mass times the cohesion of sound / light) with a notation to the 5th Element ....to explan how this cohesion developes...)
.

...
my theory is beyond our normal under standing of the principles of sound and light as we know them , it defines that light has no nuetronic weight values ...and this inturn explans why light excellerates ...beyond the normal rates of sound partical waves ..." all atomic matter must apply to the 5th element "

i do not exspect anyone here to under stand what i am saying , i just ask that you wait to judge me untill i prove or disprove my discoveries in these matters

it was not my goal to put my self on a petistal ..before mankind ,in fact i want very little to do with the out side world at all ...
i only wish to show you i am not all talk and no action .. this was a test of my own self ..but at this piont it could effects the future of all mankind ...

ask anyone you want .. if they can under stand what i have posted here today ...i welcome it !

the blindbowman
 

HI BB, I am curious as to how and why the "cohesiveness of sound" is in that theory since it basically only occurs in a specific, fairly rare, medium as we commonly measure it??? I agree that it can be transmitted through various other mediums, but, space as we know it?

So, since it cannot be transmitted throughout space, to our way of thinking , I fail to see why it should be included in the energy theory with other predictable constants.

Mass is universal, it's actual composition is measured in accordance with it's present location and enviorment, while light, to our present state of understanding, is fairly constant throughout the Universe.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Yes I agree, all are simply a matter of dfferent frequences, which in turn are simply harmonics of the basic one which contrues the Universe.
 

Real de Tayopa said:
HI BB, I am curious as to how and why the "cohesiveness of sound" is in that theory since it basically only occurs in a specific, fairly rare, medium as we commonly measure it??? I agree that it can be transmitted through various other mediums, but, space as we know it?

So, since it cannot be transmitted throughout space, to our way of thinking , I fail to see why it should be included in the energy theory with other predictable constants.

Mass is universal, it's actual composition is measured in accordance with it's present location and enviorment, while light, to our present state of understanding, is fairly constant throughout the Universe.

Don Jose de La Mancha

p.s. Yes I agree, all are simply a matter of dfferent frequences, which in turn are simply harmonics of the basic one which contrues the Universe.

" Yes I agree, all are simply a matter of dfferent frequences, which in turn are simply harmonics of the basic one which contrues the Universe."

very well stated . sound converts when it forms a cohesion with light , light can not reach stablizition with out sound ..

lets me start you ,back at the atomic leave ...all matter that adds substracts divids and multiplies creates sound . these sound wave are a fundmental sine sound wave with a set series of progressive mutli binary worms that flow with sound . at a given piont of light at 186 292 these hormonics convert sound waves into a cohesion of two waves working as one .. thus sound anlight as one wave foundmental as light from that piont to infinity ...


its being able to define what makes those frequences and why .. that is what i have discoverd ..all atomic structure that moves by way of adding subtracting dividing or mutlipling must apply to the 5th element of sound .. we only hear and under stand sound as we know it .. it is vast beyond our under standing ...

i have define the 5th element and to a order of binary frequences that are created by the foundmentals of the 3 prime atomic structure ...look up thomas yong he gave a great outline of the 5th element he just could not get his mind aroundwhat it was , because it was beyond our under standing of sound and at what point sound starts ..
the fact of my discovery . sound starts at the atomic movement of any atomic matter ..thus all atomic matter must apply to sound ..

with a under standing of magnetism Albert Einstein dismissed the theory of the 5th element . that was a big misteak on his part ....because defineing what atomic structure is ,is alot diffrent from defineing how it moves and why . he never could define it . and that is why ...


light can not reach its starting piont with out sound . thats why we hear thunder yet lighting only takes place after sound ...and all particals in the air are governed by the lesser 4 elements . temps ,solids,liquids,gases,(fire ,earth ,water ,and air )
 

Hio my friend: I think that we are having a bit of divergence on the origin and description of sound.

A) Sound is a "reactive" product. By itself, it does not exist except as the result of another action creating the particular frequency that is discernible by whatever means, organic (life) or instrumental as sound..
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B) Sound blends into the other frequencies, there is no clear cut frequency that is considered as sound, unless you define the actual receptive device.
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C) You stated --> all matter that adds substracts divids and multiplies creates sound,.
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Agreed in principal, a reactive result. - see "A"
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D) You posted --> these sound wave are a fundmental sine sound wave
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?? fundamental ??? They must by definition, be a harmonic of THE fundamental - the Universe's, nature.
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E) You posted --> these hormonics convert sound waves into a cohesion of two waves working as one
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Agreed, at various points in the frequency range, which is effectively infinite, all do.
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F) You posted -->these hormonics convert sound waves into a cohesion of two waves working as one
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To a point agreed, but what about the other infinite no.of waves which are "out" of phase with them?*************************************************************************************

G) You posted --> adding subtracting dividing or mutlipling must apply to the 5th element of sound
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What is the fundamental frequency of sound ?
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H) You posted --> that's why we hear thunder yet lighting only takes place after sound
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Hmm, since sound is strictly an infinitely, variable, " reactive" frequency --- hmmm.

Speaking personally, when a bomb or shell explodes, the resulting pressure breaks up the casing into many smaller parts which travel outwards faster than the perceived sound. I have received some of these fragments before the sound of of the chemical reaction - explosion - reached my ears.

In the case of lightning, it has been proven in the laboratory that the energy in the lightening heats up the air to a point that it is practically non-existent though expansion, then as it cools, the resulting collapse, and in rushing cool air, creates the presssure wave of "sound"., Actually there are two pressure waves which are produced by the lightning, the expansion phase and the collapsing one, not the reverse.

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

OHIO my friend: I am a bit lost here. I am not trying to belittle you, but to put the pieces together, so please put up with me. Naturally this will involve questions etc., some will be contradictory..

Don Jose de La Mancha
 

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