The 1826 Flood Of St Louis Destruction of the Unintelligible Writing Key

[Rebel - KGC]

That is what you aways say, a bad opinion!

LOL!

 

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[masterpoe]

Yet we have proof that there was a flood that did not kill Beale or his men, but washed a letter away. This originated with NSA Beale site. I trust the annalist have done there research well. I can ask them if you wish?

I lost that link to the document, can you post it.

 

[Cryptography]

I think you'd better ask them for their provenance that establishes it to be a conclusive fact that the flood washed that alleged letter away. Bet you never get it. In fact, I'm 100% sure you won't. You see, the only way you could you get it is if they had provenance that the said letter ever existed at all, which they simply ain't got. I'm sure they'll be happy to explain the difference between hypothesis/theory VS fact to you as well, should you dare to ask them. I'm 100% sure "they're" not trying to sell that opinion as fact, as you are trying so desperately to do. "100% certain!" Heck, you never know, if you ask for it they might even contact me to see if I have it?

Was there a flood in 1826? YES FACT
Do floods destroy papers and written objects? YES FACT
Was there a worse flood in about 1844 or so? YES FACT
Was that flood 7 feet higher than the 1826 flood YES FACT

The flood in 1844 had steamboats unloading in the middle of town into second story window. floating over building to do so. That would make the 1826 flood a bad flood that not much could escape.

 

[masterpoe]

I lost that link to the document, can you post it.

Got it! Thanks

 

[masterpoe]

No, no it isn't; it's about a "certain" claim you're making that a flood was reason for the failed delivery of the alleged key, below is a copy of "your selected title" for this thread, your post standing as "real evidence" as to the "true context" of this thread...... Have you even read your own "wildly speculative" thread and post?
The 1826 Flood Of St Louis Destruction of the Unintelligible Writing Key

Confused are we eh?

 

[ECS]

Was there a flood in 1826? YES FACT
Do floods destroy papers and written objects? YES FACT
Was there a worse flood in about 1844 or so? YES FACT
Was that flood 7 feet higher than the 1826 flood YES FACT ...

Does this prove that Beale or the "key" letter ever existed? NO FACT- YES SPECULATION

 

[bigscoop]

Was there a flood in 1826? YES FACT
Do floods destroy papers and written objects? YES FACT
Was there a worse flood in about 1844 or so? YES FACT
Was that flood 7 feet higher than the 1826 flood YES FACT

The flood in 1844 had steamboats unloading in the middle of town into second story window. floating over building to do so. That would make the 1826 flood a bad flood that not much could escape.

Was there lightening in 1826? YES!
Do people die from lightening strikes? YES!
Are some lightening storms worse then others? YES!
Has property and paper ever burned due to a lightening strike? YES!
Good lord, man, quit inhaling all of that fantasy fact before it permanently damages brain cells......

 

[masterpoe]

Was there lightening in 1826? YES!
Do people die from lightening strikes? YES!
Are some lightening storms worse then others? YES!
Has property and paper ever burned due to a lightening strike? YES!
Good lord, man, quit inhaling all of that fantasy fact before it permanently damages brain cells......

I'm afraid that lighting strikes we're not kept track of a the particular timeline we are looking at. Time machine would be the only possible way you could verify this hypothesis.

Provence seems to be a big problem too!

 

[bigscoop]

I'm afraid that lighting strikes we're not kept track of a the particular timeline we are looking at. Time machine would be the only possible way you could verify this hypothesis.

Provence seems to be a big problem too!

Now you're catching on. You can see it in what others post but you're just missing the obvious connection......

 

[Cryptography]

I'm afraid that lighting strikes we're not kept track of a the particular timeline we are looking at. Time machine would be the only possible way you could verify this hypothesis.

Provence seems to be a big problem too!

I certainly hope he is not referring to Clark's diary. As not mean provenance of the flood of 1826.

 

[ECS]

William Clark's journal and diary was probably one of the sources utilized by James Beverly Ward while creating the Beale Papers.
Clark's wife, Julia Hancock, was the cause of the duel between Thomas Beale and James Beverly Risqué, Ward's grandfather, which provided the Beale character name for the job print pamphlet.

 

[Cryptography]

William Clark's journal and diary was probably one of the sources utilized by James Beverly Ward while creating the Beale Papers.
Clark's wife, Julia Hancock, was the cause of the duel between Thomas Beale and James Beverly Risqué, Ward's grandfather, which provided the Beale character name for the job print pamphlet.

The statement above has no providence. Therefore is just conjecture. ( Was Probably )

 

[ECS]

It was presented as a probable possibility, NOT AS FACT, as some on these threads are apt to do with their unbridled speculative guessing to fill in the many "empty holes" that flood these threads about the Beale story.

 

[Cryptography]

It was presented as a probable possibility, NOT AS FACT, as some on these threads are apt to do with their unbridled speculative guessing to fill in the many "empty holes" that flood these threads about the Beale story.

All your information is presented as probable possibility. That seems to be the problem!

 

[ECS]

And yours...?

 

[masterpoe]

All your information is presented as probable possibility. That seems to be the problem!

BS does the same! No facts just a bunch of BigScoop!

 

[masterpoe]

The statement above has no providence. Therefore is just conjecture. ( Was Probably )

LOL!

 

[Cryptography]

BS does the same! No facts just a bunch of BigScoop!

Now he's trying to say that there are errors in the authors made up story that prove its made up.

 

[ECS]

Now he's trying to say that there are errors in the authors made up story that prove its made up.

There are several errors or purposeful discrepancies in the Beale narrative text, as well just a bit of plausible references to make the adventure treasure tale "believable" to the gullible and unwary reader.

You and nobody else has ever presented evidence of anything in the Beale story as ever happening outside of the pages of the Beale Papers- a very basic indicator that prove the story is "made up".

 

[bigscoop]

BS does the same! No facts just a bunch of BigScoop!

Hard to argue that the original narration isn't the only source or provenance to the tale and that pointing out all those existing dependencies, inaccuracies, and deceptions within that original narration isn't provenance. Not my fault that all of that contrary fact exist as I didn't write that original narration. So if you need to attack me in place of the author that's fine, but it all still comes back to the original source, the author, not me. So when you attack me for pointing these things out, I'm not the one you're actually attacking. But don't sweat it, most realize this.....