Templar Vault Chamber located in New Ross, Nova Scotia

[FinderKeeper]

There you go again...showing images from another site and somehow equating them as proof of your discovery. The loss of credibility continues...

I knew you would be the first to post but not you or your friends can bash this info down. Your post didn't state why you didn't think this was a grave. You just did a QUOTE , come on and just think with your brain and come up with a answer why my info is wrong. That's why we are here right or is it to bash everything I say But do try and lets see what you can do. If you did take the time to read this post, the drawing pictures are from Joans site and the Templar Graves are from Europe , so what is your problem . The problem is you have nothing to prove this info is wrong Try again. Maybe one of your friends will post something If you can't see anything in the drawing that looks like its a Templar Grave then you are wasting our time . The two stones together are the same shape as a Templar Grave. This grave site was MADE FAST for a reason.

PROVE THIS IS NOT A GRAVE SITE

 

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[FinderKeeper]

QUOTE=Smithbrown;
And I can't say I see any resemblance.





Must I draw you a picture . The shape is there take your time and look again.

 

[NewAge]

PROVE THIS IS NOT A GRAVE SITE

It would be rather easy to figure out if it was a grave or not in a couple hours with a shovel.

Did you ever dig up the 5' deep man made rock lined water channels you spent 4 years tracking?

Instead of posting sketches and photos of sites in other countries how about taking one of these and actually digging up something you have claimed to have found.Especially things that are only 5-6' deep.

 

[FinderKeeper]

It would be rather easy to figure out if it was a grave or not in a couple hours with a shovel.

Did you ever dig up the 5' deep man made rock lined water channels you spent 4 years tracking?

Instead of posting sketches and photos of sites in other countries how about taking one of these and actually digging up something you have claimed to have found.Especially things that are only 5-6' deep.View attachment 1417672

No New Age, I am not jumping around on subjects, that's your way to avoid answering anything about the Herm stone. That was a cheep shot but nice try. Prove this info is wrong.

 

[FinderKeeper]

Hay Raparee, What's up you never stay this quiet , tell us what you think , can you prove this Herm info is not anything to do with a Templar Grave, No one has given a good answer they all hide from the truth.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

The proof of it being used a a grave site would be bones. Nothing else will do.

 

[FinderKeeper]

The proof of it being used a a grave site would be bones. Nothing else will do.

Some of the members here talk about the Herm Stone like they know more about it than some of us that has been on site. So lets talk about the Herm and the Z stone . I have a lot more info on this subject to prove if it was a grave but if no one is willing to do this the right way then I am done giving out info on this subject.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

OK. So we have this . . .

Does not look like a grave. Looks like a pile of rocks. Possible inscription. But not by anyone with any skill in stone carving or patience.

 

[Eldo]

OK. So we have this . . .

Does not look like a grave. Looks like a pile of rocks. Possible inscription. But not by anyone with any skill in stone carving or patience.

Like maybe early explorers who wintered here.....for a season or three.....

Like maybe the Norse Norumbega settlement, that later was known to the orders that followed here after hearing the tales from travelers?

Every photo drawn that is a sketch of proposed Castle or fortifications at New Ross shows crude temporary foundations, with wood walls, and towers for observation.

These are the telltale descriptions of the Castle or Fort at the end of a Great River in Acadia........later travelers who didn't find it inland in Nova Scotia, looked further inward towards the coast of N America.

The original maps of Norumbega show that these areas are the exact locations of what was known to be at the end of the Gold River........as it was known to be lined with nugget and flake deposits.

 

[Eldo]

In the 1550's the Spanish and French had discovered that a race of European - Like people were there, already having integrated into the way of life of the natives.....

These were the original Norse settlers.

Later the English were known to use Oak Island to Pirate, and possible knew or found Norumbega, and set off to destroy the New Ross site, raiding its supposed Viking Hordes.....and hiding any remnants of its foundations, as they were buried up when found, and the rocks were taken and piled in the woods as I remember. Someone tried to cover their tracks there....and it wasn't the original builders.

The French came there later knowing the areas history and were not fooled, using the Money Pit to deceive the possible returning Pirates.....setting up deceptive looking carvings with little or no meaning except for those who knew.

What I think happened at New Ross after they found out about the Pirates there is that the Crew that was on the Mission for the 3 Kings, Champlain, Bacon, Poussin, Teniers, and a few others who had seen the locations and crafted their paintings around exact locations, were sent there to use it as a temporary place to set up their traps and carve their later puzzles....possibly painting these masterpieces with "Living Art" from the plants and solis from the areas in Acadia. I think they were using the Norumbega area to craft their puzzle and making the older settlement disappear after they left.

There is ancient evidence of two types of carvings found, one older and clearly Norse, and one newer and related to Biblical orders.......and the architecture that can be discerned as to their different times is there as well in the same manner, and the herm is a later addition as well that takes the shape of the Chapel of Mary Magdalene, in Rennes Le Chateau....so there is the proof anyone can see.....without ever having gone there.

It was Norumbega and needs to be examined more closely....there are plenty of reasons now to hold onto that site......

And a majority of the history of New World Pre-Colonial Settlements are there......its a Pivotal Point in History as well as on the map.

Hold On To That Site.....

 

[Raparee]

Hay Raparee, What's up you never stay this quiet , tell us what you think , can you prove this Herm info is not anything to do with a Templar Grave, No one has given a good answer they all hide from the truth.

Hi FK. Just back from a long weekend with the in-laws

The burden of proof is on you. It's up to you to prove what it is, not up to me to prove what it isn't. You have essentially just stated your belief and have offered nothing to support it. If you want anyone to accept that this is a Templar grave, pull a 14th Century European body out of it.

Also ... it's not a herm stone.

 

[Keith Jackson]

I see a Templar Grave Site at the location of the Z stone but not a grave.

I am kind of confused what you mean by this. Does this mean that you think that there was a grave at one time, but it is no longer there? Or something else? I am not trying to be confrontational at all, but simply trying to understand what you mean.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Like maybe early explorers who wintered here.....for a season or three.....

Like maybe the Norse Norumbega settlement, that later was known to the orders that followed here after hearing the tales from travelers?

Every photo drawn that is a sketch of proposed Castle or fortifications at New Ross shows crude temporary foundations, with wood walls, and towers for observation.

These are the telltale descriptions of the Castle or Fort at the end of a Great River in Acadia........later travelers who didn't find it inland in Nova Scotia, looked further inward towards the coast of N America.

The original maps of Norumbega show that these areas are the exact locations of what was known to be at the end of the Gold River........as it was known to be lined with nugget and flake deposits.

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No question at all in my mind that Norse/Danes and Basque/Poretugese were all over these regions in pre-columbian times.
Tempers? Not so much.

Castle? No. Small settlement? Very likely. Whether aboriginal or European needs more study. And not by someone who sees leprechauns with energy sucking flashlights stealing cars, reports on visitations by UFOs (and their pilots), and believed ghosts left artwork on frosty windows.

Joan admits moving and placing stones. I had a brilliant aunt who was a graduate of Syracuse University with a degree in mathematics in the 40's when few women attended college. She had a brilliant career in chemical research - until her breakdown. Then she spent all day rearranging furniture non-stop until her hands bled. Perhaps with Joan it was rocks?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Like maybe early explorers who wintered here.....for a season or three.....

Like maybe the Norse Norumbega settlement, that later was known to the orders that followed here after hearing the tales from travelers?

Every photo drawn that is a sketch of proposed Castle or fortifications at New Ross shows crude temporary foundations, with wood walls, and towers for observation.

These are the telltale descriptions of the Castle or Fort at the end of a Great River in Acadia........later travelers who didn't find it inland in Nova Scotia, looked further inward towards the coast of N America.

The original maps of Norumbega show that these areas are the exact locations of what was known to be at the end of the Gold River........as it was known to be lined with nugget and flake deposits.

View attachment 1417823

No question at all in my mind that Norse/Danes and Basque/Poretugese were all over these regions in pre-columbian times.
Tempers? Not so much.

Castle? No. Small settlement? Very likely. Whether aboriginal or European needs more study. And not by someone who sees leprechauns with energy sucking flashlights stealing cars, reports on visitations by UFOs (and their pilots), and believed ghosts left artwork on frosty windows.

Joan admits moving and placing stones. I had a brilliant aunt who was a graduate of Syracuse University in the 40's when few women attended college. She had a brilliant career in chemical research - until her breakdown. Then she spent all day rearranging furniture non-stop to the point her hands bled and she would forget to eat. Perhaps with Joan it was rocks?

 

[Montclaire]

So close and yet nothing found on Oak Island, the TV show has given us all the info we need to solve this hunt and no one has done it yet. They are so close and they don't see it. The Zena Papers are real and so is a lot of the info they had on the show, they just need to (as Rick said ) sit down and look at it again. I helped them once and I got screwed so when they are done with the TV show I will show them what they did wrong . Next week they get a little bit closer

Not doubting you, but do you know more about the Zena papers besides what was portrayed on the show? Has anyone professionally evaluated their authenticity? They did not give much of a backstory at all when they were presented to the Laginas. Forgive me if this has already been hashed out elsewhere.

 

[Bud Aurum]

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Here is a photo by J. Hope of the stone as they first found it in the yard. On the top of the stone, which is on the left as viewed here, is a cross. It appears to be within a circle and seems quite visible; Joan describes it as "deeply carved."
The other markings on the stone, according to Joan, have been enhanced with blue powder.

Pippin, it is the clarity of the cross in this photo that made me surprised that it wasn't visible when you saw the stone.

Just a bit confused

Hi NostraDanis, So this is the same stone showed on "The Curse of Oak Island" with possible markings of a Templar cross on the face and buried halfway in the ground?
If so, do you know why was it buried and why did they not show the rough engravings on the show.

Hi Finderkeeper, is this the same stone you are saying has a sword across it's length? Is there a picture of this. Also what are the "Z & N stones", were they found nearby?

Your Bud Aurum

 

[Smithbrown]

So, FK, I assume after you had googled "Templar grave" you didn't actually bother reading the captions. One actually says this is an Anglo-Saxon grave slab- that's a lot earlier than the Templars, and neither- none of the other two- have any actual evidence they are Templar graves. And you didn't mention a real possible Templar grave, only one I think I have seen. Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?

 

[FinderKeeper]

I am kind of confused what you mean by this. Does this mean that you think that there was a grave at one time, but it is no longer there? Or something else? I am not trying to be confrontational at all, but simply trying to understand what you mean.

Thank You Keith That's a good question First let me say a lot of people came together to figure out this mess, this is not just my work but I did put it all together with their help.
(1)OK, This grave site is not deep enough to be a grave site. Its long enough for a Templar grave, its pointed in the right direction, its in the shape that the Templars use, and its on the Tree of Life Cross at the right spot , and it looks like it was fast made.
(2) Someone removed part of this grave site (the Herm stone ) to the other part of the cross right on the same spot as the other site is (same distance ). And pointed it in the same direction ,east. Then set up what looks like another grave site. WHY, Not a grave but looks like one built fast again.
(3) Their was ash , small bones, and charcoal found at both sites WHY.

We believe these sites were to burn the bodies of the dead from the Bubonic Plague period. At first one grave was OK but as more deaths came they had to start another grave site to burn 2 bodies at a time. The bones were removed and put into a 15' trench . I believe we located the trench but we will not give out the location because we need to have Heritage on site when its time. This is what we think happen because it all fits, and because there is a Castle in the shape of The Tree of Life we think its Templars. Ya some of this could be wrong but this is what we think happen . You can bash this all you want to but in a few weeks we will do our dig and know for sure

 

[FinderKeeper]

In 1970's Joan Hope and Ron Harris sent the small bones and charcoal to Halifax Museum and never got any kind of reply back. Ron told me the bones were small like finger or toe bones. In 2013 I wanted to dig more up for the TV show and the answer from Heritage was NO WAY do not dig. They let us drill 3 holes for the show and that was it. I only needed to dig down 1' yet no way, Later I find out Glen , who was the land owner of the site took a dozer down through the yard and dug it all up. So what was there is now long gone.

 

[Eldo]

So, FK, I assume after you had googled "Templar grave" you didn't actually bother reading the captions. One actually says this is an Anglo-Saxon grave slab- that's a lot earlier than the Templars, and neither- none of the other two- have any actual evidence they are Templar graves. And you didn't mention a real possible Templar grave, only one I think I have seen. Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?

And again you are merely trying to assert your arguments as a form of character assassination....

There's enough evidence to show that there are numerous European cultures that made these tombs in the same manner.....one being the Celts.....and these same Templar Graves are found embedded in the stone of foundations all over England as well....actual Templar Graves.......

And not to mention your lack of knowledge of Finders Keepers use of the word Templar. His meaning is far different from your interpretation on google.....and the fantasy of "Templars" there online asserted by online rumors you attribute to FK's work are so off base its funny.....

He holds a site with Permits, has been invited on a Show, has the Laginas digging in his trash for clues, and works hard to look for answers here.........and you critique a pic he selected to describe SIMILAR details of his site, claiming he is making the whole story up?

WOW you must be really starving for an education.....just open a book and read up on it.....