Swamp Gold

[ivan salis]

there could be more than one "camp site" they were on the move after all . -- or else they might be a totally unrelated to one another -- might be a totally differant camp site from a differant time frame ---I'm sure CSA troops used those swamps to hide out from union troops more than once. -- either one of those camps (yours or the 1940's warden) or niether one be the "right one" ---who knows till you check it out some more? but any camp site found with CSA items in it in the swamp is worth checking out --- even more so if its near an area that fits the hiding spot discription *.

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

I never thought there was a connection. I found them in Lemon City, an old section of Miami, nowhere near the interior of the state. It was a confusing find and I didnt even know what they were when I first found them. I actually left them there and went back the next day to pick them up. Civil War era buttons are an extremely rare find here in South Florida. I always assumed they were from someones collection. They were all together in one very old pouch. The CSN Navy Officers button does make me think. Its like the one in the banner. I just thought Id mention it.

 

[ivan salis]

those CSN buttons came from england*** see the back mark --- they were used alot by officers on the blockade runners -- the actual confederate navy was quite small in size and numbers.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

those CSN buttons came from england*** see the back mark --- they were used alot by officers on the blockade runners -- the actual confederate navy was quite small in size and numbers.

I gave it to my Mom for safe keeping and she doesnt remember. The backmark said London. I think I have some of the Eagles here I can post.

 

[ivan salis]

CSN "english" made buttons -- blockade runners running to nassau and burmuda (english controlled areas and trading cotton with english ) getting english made items in exchange ( like say CSN "buttons" which the blockade running officers used on their coats ) see the link now? -- and later on rebel govt folks wanting to flee to nassau or cuba with money -- and needing blockade runner help to do so? --- yes I think its quite reasonible to think they would work up a plan .

 

[Bridge End Farm]

Supposedly he collected some relics from an overgrown campsite that are Civil War era.

are you looking for this camp also as I don't think it and the well are the same location

 

[ivan salis]

psst it was the discovery of a full gilt mint shape ---south carolina state seal button --back marked ---john rugheimer* sons-- that had been coverted into a french post type cuff link that got me into researching blocakade runner info -- found out that the FULTON LANE INN in charleston , SC --a historic class B & B was built after the civil war by the family of the famous civil war blockade runner JOHN RUGHEIMER *. he came over from the germany and was a tailor by trade before the war and thus had overseas connections in the clothing trade before the war.

type in john rugheimer into the search engine if you want to see the photos of the button . * posted dec 31, 2007 .

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I remember the buttons I found in the late 70's were scattered in a small area and the old steel framed leather pouch had a few still in it with a lock of hair. It was not far from some RR tracks and a torn down trailer park. I didnt even have a metal detector. I eyeballed them. I picked up as many as I could find and Im sure I missed some. I think it was an old mans collection thrown away when he passed. That was my thoughts at the time because of the excellent condition of some of the buttons.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Supposedly he collected some relics from an overgrown campsite that are Civil War era.

are you looking for this camp also as I don't think it and the well are the same location

Yes, my eyewitness places the mint 1861 Indianhead well pennies in the same general area of the last camp. But it was approx. 1958 and my witness was only 12 years old when his family drilled the well. I talk to his son all the time and he says thats all that he can remember.

 

[ivan salis]

buttons with a lock of hair -- think !!! big cy -- it was a civil war guys girlfreind / wife keepsake purse !! -- in the old days a lover (or wife) kept a locket of hair from her beloved / husband as a momento and later on added buttons from off his uniform , when he died during the war or afterwards maybe . -- thus the hair and buttons together . dude what a monster find. -- most likely there was once at that area a old homestead or old shack where some old woman sat pining for her long lost love. holding on to that old purse. -- once she past "people " moved in and rooted around thru her things -- in the purse they found nothing of money value to them so it was chucked as junk outside where you ran across it years later .

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

buttons with a lock of hair -- think !!! big cy -- it was a civil war guys wife keepsake purse !! a lover (the wife) keeps a locket of hair from her beloved husband and buttons from off his uniform , when he died during the war or afterwards maybe . -- thus the hair and buttons together . dude what a monster find.

Yes, I realized something like that later. There were large eagle buttons and small. My Mom says she doesnt remember me giving them to her and she cant find them. There were some unidentified buttons in the mix. I need to drive to my Moms house in Ocala to search. Im almost positive I gave them to her. The pouch alone could be worth bucks.

Its was interesting find for sure but I dont think there is any connection to Swamp Gold.

 

[ivan salis]

you still need to find / recover those buttons , hair and pouch even if it not related to the "missing gold story" -- cuz its a cool story all of its own. the big buttons were main coat buttons --the smaller cuff buttons -- find em -- and I 'll help id em for you if you do.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

buttons with a lock of hair -- think !!! big cy -- it was a civil war guys girlfreind / wife keepsake purse !! -- in the old days a lover (or wife) kept a locket of hair from her beloved / husband as a momento and later on added buttons from off his uniform , when he died during the war or afterwards maybe . -- thus the hair and buttons together . dude what a monster find. -- most likely there was once at that area a old homestead or old shack where some old woman sat pining for her long lost love. holding on to that old purse. -- once she past "people " moved in and rooted around thru her things -- in the purse they found nothing of money value to them so it was chucked as junk outside where you ran across it years later .

Thanks Ivan. It makes sense. I think someone found it before me looking for money and scattered the buttons all around. When I found it, the lock of hair and a couple buttons were still in the old pouch and I collected as many buttons that I could find in a few hours searching by eyesight. (about 10 total). I remember the location in an old ghetto section of Lemon City. Probably looks different now.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

you still need to find / recover those buttons , hair and pouch even if it not related to the "missing gold story" -- cuz its a cool story all of its own. the big buttons were main coat buttons --the smaller cuff buttons -- find em -- and I 'll help id em for you if you do.

I had to move out of my home 2-1/2 years ago and that was the last I saw of them. Im 99 per cent sure my Moms got them somewhere in Ocala. Im broken hearted that she cant remember me giving them to her but she remembers the pouch. Dear old Mom.

 

[Bridge End Farm]

buttons with a lock of hair -- think !!! big cy -- it was a civil war guys girlfreind / wife keepsake purse !! -- in the old days a lover (or wife) kept a locket of hair from her beloved / husband as a momento and later on added buttons from off his uniform , when he died during the war or afterwards maybe . -- thus the hair and buttons together . dude what a monster find. -- most likely there was once at that area a old homestead or old shack where some old woman sat pining for her long lost love. holding on to that old purse. -- once she past "people " moved in and rooted around thru her things -- in the purse they found nothing of money value to them so it was chucked as junk outside where you ran across it years later .

yes that was a huge find and of great value as a lot probably even more value if you did find the story with it

 

[Bridge End Farm]

Supposedly he collected some relics from an overgrown campsite that are Civil War era.

are you looking for this camp also as I don't think it and the well are the same location

Yes, my eyewitness places the mint 1861 Indianhead well pennies in the same general area of the last camp. But it was approx. 1958 and my witness was only 12 years old when his family drilled the well. I talk to his son all the time and he says thats all that he can remember.

how far you from Florida Bay

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Supposedly he collected some relics from an overgrown campsite that are Civil War era.

are you looking for this camp also as I don't think it and the well are the same location

Yes, my eyewitness places the mint 1861 Indianhead well pennies in the same general area of the last camp. But it was approx. 1958 and my witness was only 12 years old when his family drilled the well. I talk to his son all the time and he says thats all that he can remember.

how far you from Florida Bay

Florida Bay is far to the south end of the Glades. http://www.us-parks.com/everglades/maps.html

 

[ivan salis]

if the link could be "shown" -- say that old miz jones who's husband / son / or lover died in the civil war or whos husband / son / lover was in the civil war and lived on the land dying there and later on she died afterwards -- oh yah both the historical and fiscal value of ithe items would jump greatly .

things with a "story" with them are always worth more.--then those with out one.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Guess what? I did a search and here is the old story on TN. lol http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,29094.0.html

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

psst it was the discovery of a full gilt mint shape ---south carolina state seal button --back marked ---john rugheimer* sons-- that had been coverted into a french post type cuff link that got me into researching blocakade runner info -- found out that the FULTON LANE INN in charleston , SC --a historic class B & B was built after the civil war by the family of the famous civil war blockade runner JOHN RUGHEIMER *. he came over from the germany and was a tailor by trade before the war and thus had overseas connections in the clothing trade before the war.

type in john rugheimer into the search engine if you want to see the photos of the button . * posted dec 31, 2007 .

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