Stone tablet at 90 feet

[Armchair detective]

Been researching the tools that could have been used to scratch a message in the stone - turns out they were common woodworking tools from the 1800's used in the WHEELWRIGHT and COOPER trades.

To wit...
An awl, a couple of chisels, and an auger blade to inscribe a circle as shown below.

If Crow is correct that Anthony Vaughn Sr was a wheelwright and Anthony Vaughn Jr was a cooper, we can put the tools in Jr's hands.

If SSR is correct that the Triton report researched that Jr was a ne'er-do-well, then we have a circumstancial case.

 

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[n2mini]

How did he dream up those symbols or language, that is still up for debate as to what language it is, or was that part of the scam. No one can read it so it must be important some how... Doesn't have to say anything at that point, your excited to have found something so you keep digging...

 

[Armchair detective]

Not exactly sure what you mean, but there is another avenue to explore.

If memory serves SSR somewhere wrote about some people who were part of the Onslow company going on the road giving talks, who spoke of religious connections and symbols.

There might be more there.

 

[Limitool]

How did he dream up those symbols or language, that is still up for debate as to what language it is, or was that part of the scam. No one can read it so it must be important some how... Doesn't have to say anything at that point, your excited to have found something so you keep digging...

Can we assume that's an opinion and not a known fact...? If nobody can read it then I'd assume it has no meaning to something of value buried deep underground. While I may be happy to have found something... for me though it would have no bearing if I continued or not.

 

[n2mini]

Exactly.. The thinking would be why would someone put it there if it didn't mean something.. So MY OPINION of course is most would want to keep digging to find out.. but heck maybe that is a treasure map of sorts and it's actually telling you how or where the treasure is and or how to retrieve it.. For me if I was digging looking for something and come across something like that I'd atleast dig deeper to see if I found anything else but that is just me. Even if I did stop and try to research the symbols/language I'd have to dig deeper in the mean time if that was taking any length of time..
So if you digging for treasure at a spot from a map or tall tale or however you think there is a treasure there and you after 90' of digging found this and couldn't read it, you'd just stop and call it finished and go home never to return? I find that hard to believe...

 

[TruthbeTold]

How did he dream up those symbols or language, that is still up for debate as to what language it is, or was that part of the scam. No one can read it so it must be important some how... Doesn't have to say anything at that point, your excited to have found something so you keep digging...

It was meaningless, random, scribble meant to convince folks that the newly created fake stone was real in hope of getting more investor dollars after previous investors figured out the oak island scam and stopped sending money.

 

[n2mini]

It might have been, but it worked!!!

 

[TruthbeTold]

It might have been, but it worked!!!

At least you recognize the stone was a fake.

 

[n2mini]

I have no idea if it was fake or not. I do believe there is/was a stone. Whether it was placed there to help get more investors who knows. Who did it and is there any rhyme or reason to the symbols who knows.. I'd imagine it took someone a decent amount of time to carve into it.. So they went to a good amount of effort it looks like..

 

[Limitool]

I have no idea if it was fake or not. I do believe there is/was a stone. Whether it was placed there to help get more investors who knows. Who did it and is there any rhyme or reason to the symbols who knows.. I'd imagine it took someone a decent amount of time to carve into it.. So they went to a good amount of effort it looks like..

And to what possible end do you believe...?

 

[n2mini]

If the stone was faked by the ones who found it, as one would think. Yet they gave up digging shortly there after as they couldn't keep the hole from filling with water. It turned out to be a waste of time to carve the stone to begin with..

 

[TruthbeTold]

If the stone was faked by the ones who found it, as one would think. Yet they gave up digging shortly there after as they couldn't keep the hole from filling with water. It turned out to be a waste of time to carve the stone to begin with..

As with all holes on an island beneath sea level, the water is already there. Not caused by "mysterious flood tunnels". Especially on an island riddled with naturally occurring underground water passages.

Too often have the scam companies claimed that "the hole flooded JUST before we found the massive treasure".

The 90 foot stone is a fake just as the claims of mysterious flood tunnels.

 

[n2mini]

Not sure how many were in the "group" that was digging at the time the stone was found, but they all either had to be in on it and yet no one ever confessed to it being a setup, or some how most of them were gone from the dig area while the couple of people in on the setup suddenly found it... All the while hiding the stone as one of them chiseled away at it for however long that took. Not saying it couldn't be done, just something to think about...

 

[TruthbeTold]

Not sure how many were in the "group" that was digging at the time the stone was found, but they all either had to be in on it and yet no one ever confessed to it being a setup, or some how most of them were gone from the dig area while the couple of people in on the setup suddenly found it... All the while hiding the stone as one of them chiseled away at it for however long that took. Not saying it couldn't be done, just something to think about...

No different than the tv show. Everyone is in on the scam.

 

[n2mini]

Once the search went cold and the stone bounced around from place to place, you would have thought someone within the group would have spelled the beans on the setup.. Regardless of why they did it...

 

[TruthbeTold]

Once the search went cold and the stone bounced around from place to place, you would have thought someone within the group would have spelled the beans on the setup.. Regardless of why they did it...

They probably told everyone. That’s why the stone was thrown away.

Just like today everyone knew the money pit story was fiction and a scam.

Whenever new searchers popped up they were counting on folks forgotting about previous scams or knew nothing about the scam of oak island.

 

[Carl-NC]

All the while hiding the stone as one of them chiseled away at it for however long that took.

There's no evidence anyone ever chiseled anything in the stone. Not a single photo or drawing of the "marks" on the stone exist. One eye witness who saw the stone said there were some scratches on the stone but nothing that appeared to be a message.

 

[n2mini]

They probably told everyone. That’s why the stone was thrown away.

Just like today everyone knew the money pit story was fiction and a scam.

Whenever new searchers popped up they were counting on folks forgotting about previous scams or knew nothing about the scam of oak island.

Then why is there no story of anyone claiming they helped fake the stone story., and no, everyone doesn't know the MP story is a scam. Here again you speak as if that is a fact and it's not.. Things found in the MP might have been fabricated to get more investor money but the reason for the search is real. Granted there may or may not have ever been a treasure there but they were looking for one. That is a fact.. Do you not believe the 3 guys ever started digging a hole to begin with?

 

[n2mini]

There's no evidence anyone ever chiseled anything in the stone. Not a single photo or drawing of the "marks" on the stone exist. One eye witness who saw the stone said there were some scratches on the stone but nothing that appeared to be a message.

What we see today of the symbols on the stone was supposedly reproduced from someone's memory, which could be way off of course. The Smith family had it in their house and the story goes that hundreds of people saw it.. Here say I know but all we have to go on. Most likely someone did do a rubbing of it to be able to pass around and mail off trying to figure out the language. Sadly even if found, some on here would say it is a fake of course, so doesn't really matter does it..

 

[Limitool]

Then why is there no story of anyone claiming they helped fake the stone story., and no, everyone doesn't know the MP story is a scam. Here again you speak as if that is a fact and it's not.. Things found in the MP might have been fabricated to get more investor money but the reason for the search is real. Granted there may or may not have ever been a treasure there but they were looking for one. That is a fact.. Do you not believe the 3 guys ever started digging a hole to begin with?

"That is a fact.. Do you not believe the 3 guys ever started digging a hole to begin with?"

Who reported or documented 3 boys digging for treasure...? And... (we'll never know) why did they dig without knowing anything was even there? Loose soil (sinkhole)...? Let's start a rumor...? And why would others pick up where the boys left off (if they dug)...?

It is FACT... after 200+ years and numerous large scale operations to find "something" all we know today is humans were on the island long before the boys and after. Nothing of value or any proof there ever was anything of value. That is fact...! Oak island has turned in a con now to generate money and it's working.