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[Limitool]

Hung it in the hallway......Pictures get hung, bows get shot!! That statement could get twisted a bit.
335 FPS in '96? Wicked.
I have decided to go hunting in Sixes for wild boar. ummmmmmm
If I use a release I'm guessing my 30-31 inch draw would change.

Viking... I called on the bow today and he said when he got it home it was only shot "15-20 times" quote. He had a bad 18 wheeler accident and will never shoot the bow again. He said it still looks brand new and if I wanted it back I could have it. He paid $150.00 for it from me. At the time the bow alone sold for around $400.00. It has/had a great arrow rest and a beautiful adjustable 1 pin sight (that's all you'll need). Now the bow IS SET UP FOR A ROPE RELEASE AID. If you wish you can have it tuned into whatever style you'd like (release aid). I was hoping he'd call back by now but he hasn't yet. I wanted to know what the bows draw weight and length adjustments said on the inside limbs. But if it adjust's to you it would make you one hell of a hunting bow buddy on the cheap. Tomorrow hopefully I'll know all about it and forward to ya if interested.... Later, Brad

 

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[Oregon Viking]

Viking... I called on the bow today and he said when he got it home it was only shot "15-20 times" quote. He had a bad 18 wheeler accident and will never shoot the bow again. He said it still looks brand new and if I wanted it back I could have it. He paid $150.00 for it from me. At the time the bow alone sold for around $400.00. It has/had a great arrow rest and a beautiful adjustable 1 pin sight (that's all you'll need). Now the bow IS SET UP FOR A ROPE RELEASE AID. If you wish you can have it tuned into whatever style you'd like (release aid). I was hoping he'd call back by now but he hasn't yet. I wanted to know what the bows draw weight and length adjustments said on the inside limbs. But if it adjust's to you it would make you one hell of a hunting bow buddy on the cheap. Tomorrow hopefully I'll know all about it and forward to ya if interested.... Later, Brad

Oh man! Cool!!!! Awesome!!!
Only one pin? I don't need multiple pins for different distances? I just looked up a rope release, seems i could learn to like it.

 

[Limitool]

If you want to sell any of them thar arrow shafts buddy let me know.Prices here are ridiculous for arrows,75 bucks for 6.

What shafts would you prefer Red...? Meaning aluminum, ace's, xx75's or carbon and what size?

I had no idea I still had so many shafts till you guys got me going on archery. And I apologize if I came across as a "know it all" to anybody. I don't... but I sure as hell know a LOT in this arena. My knowledge and experience comes from high caliber target archery across the USA and years of killing/hunting deer. If you can figure out the connection between the two you'll start to understand where I'm coming from. Viking I hope this bow will fit you.... because you WILL NOT BE UNHAPPY.... and that's a promise buddy. Yes.. a release... especially a rope release will decrease your draw and make for a quicker smoother release but it's a "learning curve" guy. Mid 60's today will take your boar and the reason I say this is anything less will take a special well placed shot at lesser poundage. And maybe you can do it... hell I don't know. But a (one time) ground based shot at a large hog watching you isn't something you fart around with. But on second thought Viking... I WOULD!!!!! And you can take that to the bank and cash it in.... I live for those moments.

 

[Limitool]

Oh man! Cool!!!! Awesome!!!
Only one pin? I don't need multiple pins for different distances? I just looked up a rope release, seems i could learn to like it.

Now I got that speed by shooting carbon, overdraw with stainless steel heads for IBO shoots. And that speed was FAST at the time... probably still is. If this bow adjusts to you I highly suggest (for hunting) using xx75's, move the rest forward, lengthen arrows and re-sight. The speed would probably drop to around 290-310 depending upon what head you chose. Yes... 1 pin between 10-30 yds. would still hit smaller than a 9" paper plate easily if your capable of executing correct shots. Stay tuned buddy.... I'll let ya know ASAP when I hear something. I'm going up (TN. to MI.) on the 21st. but if the bow is right they can send it to you from there earlier if you'd like.

 

[releventchair]

Limitool there are not a lot of opportunities to converse with someone who has followed archery as you have.Hands on to boot. You don,t come across as a know it all but rather have done alot and shared some of it.. Makes you a resource for info. Folks want to learn or tweak something archery related google may not always be the answer.
For some it is an option they may not exercise but could find it easier to practice and get familiar with compared to firearms in the suburbs.
Dosn't draw attention out back of beyond to attract unwanted visits too. But they know that...
Viking might be going berserk here in a while with your help.

 

[Red James Cash]

What shafts would you prefer Red...? Meaning aluminum, ace's, xx75's or carbon and what size?

I'd take some aluminum 31" inch .365 - .390 width if you got them.I dont have a tape or my mic handy to measure what I haveTape measure is at work and the mic is packed in god knows what box.Are the nocks on them already and the fletchings?lets haggle and dicker

 

[Red James Cash]

And I apologize if I came across as a "know it all" to anybody. I don't... but I sure as hell know a LOT in this arena

Youre sharing what you know,by all means be a know it all.I run my mouth(or is it fingers) about gunsThats what I know.Keep sharing,info is power.

 

[Limitool]

What shafts would you prefer Red...? Meaning aluminum, ace's, xx75's or carbon and what size?

I'd take some aluminum 31" inch .365 - .390 width if you got them.I dont have a tape or my mic handy to measure what I haveTape measure is at work and the mic is packed in god knows what box.Are the nocks on them already and the fletchings?lets haggle and dicker

Ok Red give me a little time.... I got a lot of shafts and their NOT separated into sizes. I'll have to get them all together and inventory. Most are blank shafts. And the ones that have nocks and vanes would have to be stripped and rebuilt because they'd be "dried up". The nock would explode (dry fire bow) and the vanes would fall off. I do know many are smaller sized shafts for low poundage bows. But I have larger ones... just don't know what yet for sure.

 

[Red James Cash]

Ok Red give me a little time.... I got a lot of shafts and their NOT separated into sizes. I'll have to get them all together and inventory. Most are blank shafts. And the ones that have nocks and vanes would have to be stripped and rebuilt because they'd be "dried up". The nock would explode (dry fire bow) and the vanes would fall off. I do know many are smaller sized shafts for low poundage bows. But I have larger ones... just don't know what yet for sure.

No biggie.the arrows I have now are easton xx75 29" aluminum,theyre a little to short.

 

[Limitool]

No biggie.the arrows I have now are easton xx75 29" aluminum,theyre a little to short.

Ok Red (I'll PM).... I spent all day 1:15 pm. on (taking my time / some Coors) going through a LOT of old archery items I still have. I had no idea I still had this much hardware. They've been stored outside in a shed but will clean up easily for use. And I did/do have 100's of shafts. Now I made up dozens upon dozens of shafts when I moved down here to TN. from MI. for new workmates at Saturn Corp. Most of the large/longer hunting shafts are gone or in very limited numbers. The larger one's I have left are from "experimental use", overdraw setup's and from my target archery days (unorthodox setup's). I have MANY, MANY shafts that will NOT work for hunting except for some of the carbon shafts left. Most are for target archery and their length's are below 27". From what I remember ending 1994: EASTON ARROWS: I admit I'm 20 years behind times. FYI Folks:

Aluminum: "Game Getters".... cheapest and bent by "looking at them". I made a LOT OF MONEY straightening them for folks. Easily "Robin Hooded" because of expansion of material (one shaft driven into the other).

"Game Getters II"... Slight step up in alloy.... SLIGHT. I made a LOT OF MONEY straightening them for folks also. Still easily "Robin Hooded" because of expansion of metal (one shaft driven into the other).


XX75's... HUGE step up in alloy's. These arrows could bend and could be straightened but they were a LOT better then the entry level shafts. Many would "explode" / break in two when stressed. But these shafts could take a "beating" and survive within reason. Very popular because of there "life span". I "Robin Hooded" many of these (one shaft driven into the other). Probably because of their popularity.

X7's... 2-3 Times as good as XX75's. These shafts exploded / broke in two 95% of time when stressed. They did NOT like to be straightened and I didn't try. If I shot another arrow into the end of the 1st. arrow it would EXPLODE like a grenade sending metal everywhere upon impact. This shaft could be "Robin Hooded" but it exploded usually before one shaft could be driven into the other. Target archer's liked them because they'd break before they'd bend so to be not shot again.

Later, tournament's developed targets for one arrow at a time and scores rose (go figure). When I was shooting you could not afford to shoot 2 arrows into the same target while shooting world class scores.

I found today many expended sights, overdraws, scopes, broad heads and various equipment. Some of the scopes are 2X, 3X, 5X power. I have 3 "Power scopes" and I forget the power rating. But the one I used in competition had a "special" lens mounted into a special peep sight casing and put into the string. Then upon full draw I'd look through this lens into another scope on an extended sight. You wouldn't believe how little I could see. But if you had the strength and stamina within a few seconds to draw, anchor, stabilize, aim and execute the release you could see a fly's a$$ only.

If anybody has any info or questions I'll try and help

 

[releventchair]

Even bent ones non straight enable can be re purposed into .22 tube feed speed loaders. Hair pin clips, or plugs,or caps to secure open ends.
Archers scent dispensers able to ride in a quiver ect.

 

[Oregon Viking]

So if my draw length is 30"-31", how long of arrows do i need? 32+"?
Also I do not like quivers mounted to the bow. I don't like peep sights either!
Yeh? I could be an untrainable type.....heh

 

[Red James Cash]

sounds good buddyBeers on me.

 

[Red James Cash]

So if my draw length is 30"-31", how long of arrows do i need? 32+"?

I'd go a little longer than a little shorter.A few arrows I use to have were way to short,during an almost full draw the broadhead would hit my top most finger on the hand holding the bow,a good way for a nice slice

 

[Oregon Viking]

I'd go a little longer than a little shorter.A few arrows I use to have were way to short,during an almost full draw the broadhead would hit my top most finger on the hand holding the bow,a good way for a nice slice

Isn't 34" the longest you can buy?
Remember I live in a small, itty bitty town. We just got cable last year....I mean..Our community has recently been offered cable TV as an option...

 

[Red James Cash]

Isn't 34" the longest you can buy?

On that I'm not sure.

Remember I live in a small, itty bitty town.

My kind of place.

 

[Limitool]

So if my draw length is 30"-31", how long of arrows do i need? 32+"?
Also I do not like quivers mounted to the bow. I don't like peep sights either!
Yeh? I could be an untrainable type.....heh

Viking... Before anybody answers your question on arrow length YOU have to decide what your "weapon" of choice is GOING TO BE. Please don't "lock in" on an arrow length until you decide.

1. Are you shooting full length arrows from a recurve, compound or long bow?
2. Are you going to utilize an overdraw on a compound?
3. If you utilize a compound are you going to shoot with fingers or *release aid? *And then what one?

And yes... if you wish to shoot full length arrows no matter the weapon.... you have to know YOUR ANCHOR POINT on whatever your choice is and then add 1" minimum to its *length. * But this is debatable upon what shaft you decide you to shoot.

Buddy I wish ya the best but you sound like you know what you don't like than what you do. I'd love to set you up with a weapon of your choosing and then take over for a day while I help you set up shots and hit bull eyes easily (while Red watches and grills for us). We'd all have a great day including you. But seriously Viking... you got some choices to make buddy before I can help ya out. One "size" doesn't fit all. The difference between the guy who shoots a little better than you is just a thimble full of knowledge away. But the guy who out shoots you or out hunts you constantly has more knowledge and/or EXPERIENCE that you. And the same goes for me or anybody.

I'm a betting man: And I'd bet regardless of what you "like or don't" at this time I'd change your mind in one day on a hunting setup based upon what YOU were doing. Please stay more open minded guy... just my opinion. I haven't heard back from my son in law yet... In fact I'm gonna call back now.... I'm tired of waiting.

 

[Oregon Viking]

On that I'm not sure.



My kind of place.

Well, if you don't like to shop...and everyone knows your bizness. When I was ohh..between 17 and 22, My mom would ask me...who was that girl you were seen with last night? ummmmmm, what girl m'am? Oh..THAT girl. Did you get into a fight last night? ummmmm no m'am a door hit me, but you should see the door!!Then I would get the what for....in an Irish accent! So...you crashed your motorcycle? No...it it hit a door too!!!!

 

[releventchair]

Gonna have to soak Viking in hot water and shrink his bow holding arm.
Not seeing them advertised but Easton had in the past few years "oversize" xx75 platinum plus at 34 inch. Sounds not cheap almost. Some bigger tubes in aluminum ran that long too. (Per forum posts on archery sites) and one claim was Easton produced a 34 1/2 in an alloy.

 

[Higgy]

So if my draw length is 30"-31", how long of arrows do i need? 32+"?
Also I do not like quivers mounted to the bow. I don't like peep sights either!
Yeh? I could be an untrainable type.....heh

Viking, the bow-mounted quiver is a good safety feature. I grew up teaching archery for a YMCA summer camp until I got a real job at 16. We only had the shoulder quiver, but the broadheads these days must be respected. I'd rather have them there than to give them a chance that I could fall on them. I actually modified my PSE to only carry two arrows total. I figure that if I cant get whatever I aim at with a degree of certainty that I can drop it, I'm not going to need another shot. Making a new shaft holder saved a few ounces over the stock model which held four shafts.