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[Oregon Viking]

I still like compound bows. I also like recurves and longbows. They get elk, moose and bear with all three. The bone splitting broadheads now days are wicked!

 

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[Gold Maven]

That's cool Limitool.

I'm curious about the details, yardage, bow draw weight, bull's eye size.

I'm a life long archer myself, and that would be quite a feat.

 

[Gold Maven]

The Howard Hill book is a good read, it's been 30 yrs since I read it, but I can still remember a couple feats of his.

Shot a whitetail buck in the head, on the run, through trees, at 100 yds.

While in Africa, shot a charging Panther through it's open mouth, at a few feet.

Shot 100 practice arrows every day.

Quite a man.

 

[BC1969]

Wow Brad..in the paper!...world record holder?!?!?? damn

Mike

 

[Limitool]

I still like compound bows. I also like recurves and longbows. They get elk, moose and bear with all three. The bone splitting broad heads now days are wicked!

Well Viking you got it covered (compound, recurves & longbows). They only thing you missed was crossbows. AND I'M SURE (hopefully) THINGS HAVE CHANGED concerning crossbows over the past 20 years. When I was shooting during my hayday I was sent many bows and equipment to try, setup, "test" and report. At that time crossbows SUCKED. They were a worthless weapon. What I mean by this is that any properly set-up compound, recurve or longbow outshoot any crossbow easily. Especially at greater distances for those "capable" of executing. Hopefully things have changed but many people are sucked into the thought that a crossbow's speed is a "good" thing. Speed in archery is way overrated but it "sells" equipment. If you want speed/distance grab a 300 mag. and reach out!

But concerning bow hunting... learn to shoot an easily controlled set-up and kill a deer between 5-25 yds.

 

[Limitool]

That is cool!! Serious look ya got there......Damn! We are in the presence of greatness!!
Heck, I'll bet you have bows just..lyin' around! Hanging on the walls, etc.

Viking.... GREATNESS is LONG GONE (past glory days). I'm over all that now. But you are right about the bows lying around. Every manufacture who sent one I got to keep. I later sold many and just sold some old hunting bows last year. The only ones I have left are a couple real old hunting bows and my two Hoyt target bows I shot with travelling around the country along with 3-4 kid bows I keep for my grandkids. Hanging on my walls.... wife got pissed on why I wanted all these bows hanging "around"... CAN ANYBODY SAY "MAN CAVE ITEMS".

 

[Oregon Viking]

I found it!! Behind some sluice boxes. This used to be my game getter.

Then this.
The Tru Glo sight is missing, given to a friend of mine down on his luck. He hunts and fishes a lot. He only asks for things that can enable him to help himself.

 

[releventchair]

Last compound was an around 1981 Hoyt Easton Impala, the last year built anyway. It is hiding in the basement.
Crossbow #1 is extremely accurate. Do not aim at a previous arrow! #2 needs sighted in after putting what I wanted together on it. Eye may require a different scope on the second.
Efficiency of a crossbow is less than other bows but is overcome through higher poundage. Pulling an arrow,(bolts of olde are very different than today's arrows) is interesting even with lube on the ends. There is a tool I don,t own to help so most tiring part of shooting is pulling arrows. First conventional target was zipped through so a rinehart came into use. Not going to push any brand,multiple should be examined of most things to suit an individual but I favor recurve over an x-bow with cams. Neither of mine are the fastest but they zing along just fine. Speed don,t kill alone.

 

[Limitool]

Your right relecventchair... Like you needed me to agree... "Speed doesn't kill alone".

"Efficiency of a crossbow is less than other bows (right) but is overcome through higher poundage". With all due respect what is overcome (accuracy, range, penetration or what?)

 

[Limitool]

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The Tru Glo sight is missing, given to a friend of mine down on his luck. He hunts and fishes a lot. He only asks for things that can enable him to help himself.

1st... Get rid of the overdraw. Martin Cougar/Lynx bows were NOT made for overdraws (as many bows). The energy transfer between limbs were NOT made to absorb the kinetic energy left over not put into the arrow. This is further maginified by the shorter arrow /bolt put into this setup.

 

[Oregon Viking]

These new broadheads are called ‘Hybrid’ broadheads due to the fact that they offer the best features of both fixed and mechanical broadheads. These ‘Hybrid’ heads have the ability to cut-on-contact like a fixed blade and then open to a wide cutting surface like a mechanical head. This new line of broadheads are beginning to be recognized as the answer to what hunters have been looking for all along. These new broadheads satisfy the traditional archer’s desire for a guaranteed cutting wound on contact and the bowhunters who want field tip type flight with the wide wound channels of a mechanical. The Dead Ringer Hunting broadheads are available in both two and three blade configurations and all fly with field tip accuracy.



The Dead Ringer ‘Hybrid’ Broadhead in the closed position. View attachment 1051775



Dead Ringer in the open position. View attachment 1051777



In addition to being accurate, they are extremely tough. Rampage broadheads are made with aircraft grade aluminum ferrules and feature case hardened steel trocar tips and razor sharp blades made of super strong spring stainless steel. They also have stronger more durable O-rings that don’t break like the O-rings on many other mechanical heads do. With cutting edges from 1.5” to 2” they produce a huge wound channel. Dead Ringer Hunting broadheads have already been proven in the field to be devastating on many types of big game from whitetail deer to large African game animals.

 

[releventchair]

Your right relecventchair... Like you needed me to agree... "Speed doesn't kill alone".

"Efficiency of a crossbow is less than other bows (right) but is overcome through higher poundage". With all due respect what is overcome (accuracy, range, penetration or what?)

The loss of efficiency is caused by the arrow, the knock end especially can tell after a while, riding(friction) on the rail. The string also. Wax/lube on string is transferred over time to rail confirming the string friction. Serving shows wear even when judiciously rotated, from trigger mechanism. No drag is actually noticed when shooting but it does exist. I don,t have figures but say a 175 draw weight may not produce same speed as a recurve if comparable even. That same 175 does well with 350 grain arrow and comes in depending on string around 300 f.p.s..

 

[Limitool]

The loss of efficiency is caused by the arrow, the knock end especially can tell after a while, riding(friction) on the rail. The string also. Wax/lube on string is transferred over time to rail confirming the string friction. Serving shows wear even when judiciously rotated, from trigger mechanism. No drag is actually noticed when shooting but it does exist. I don,t have figures but say a 175 draw weight may not produce same speed as a recurve if comparable even. That same 175 does well with 350 grain arrow and comes in depending on string around 300 f.p.s..

Buddy I don't have to tell ya.... Wouldn't WE have a blast sitting around talking while the rest of our comrade's grilled our meal.... We have got to make this happen somehow.

There is so MUCH knowledge here on T-Net to share, debate and put forth....

 

[releventchair]

I,m not as communicative in person. Unless it's when I should be quiet.

Time together with a bunch of misfits would be a hoot. We'd get along just fine.

 

[Limitool]

The Howard Hill book is a good read, it's been 30 yrs since I read it, but I can still remember a couple feats of his.

Shot a whitetail buck in the head, on the run, through trees, at 100 yds.

While in Africa, shot a charging Panther through it's open mouth, at a few feet.

Shot 100 practice arrows every day.

Quite a man.

Golden Maven... I have NO DOUBT that Howard Hill would have kicked my butt using a long bow. In fact it wouldn't even be a contest... HE'D WIN. Also, as would Fred Bear with his expertise with a recurve. I meet Fred several times and he was good man. We didn't know each other but his reputation preceded him to me. I was a wanna be then.

"Shot a whitetail buck in the head, on the run, through trees, at 100 yds." I only wish I could have seen this feat. That's hard to do with a 300 mag. My hat's off to him...

"While in Africa, shot a charging Panther through it's open mouth, at a few feet." This is very easy to believe... GOOD FOR HIM!!!!

"Shot 100 practice arrows every day"...Easy to believe... most pro shooters average this routine. And many are NOT at the bulls-eye or actually "shot".

 

[Red James Cash]

sitting around talking while the rest of our comrade's grilled our meal

Hope you realize what chefs make an hour

 

[Oregon Viking]

I have been looking at recurves on ebay What the??
Spendy!

 

[releventchair]

A bear grizzly running about 360 new. Used compound market here for dealers according to the last one is about worthless. So used should be cheap. Recurves not so much but e-bay may reflect a little optimism price wise.

Bear Archery 1st Shot Youth Recurve Bow Package 8-12 lb Ambidextrous

 

[Red James Cash]

Very impressive limitool.How about instinct shooting,have you ever tried it with a bow.I never tried with a bow,rifles and pistols yup,bows no.Once you get the knack its just about as accurate as you can get with aimed shots,thats with guns though.

 

[Oregon Viking]

A bear grizzly running about 360 new. Used compound market here for dealers according to the last one is about worthless. So used should be cheap. Recurves not so much but e-bay may reflect a little optimism price wise.

Bear Archery 1st Shot Youth Recurve Bow Package 8-12 lb Ambidextrous

Yes used is OK by me. I don't need (or want) a 2,000 dollar Mathews. And truthfully, I'am just not that good without sights! I get close to deer, no long shots. I also use a tree stand sometimes though. The local lumber mill here, owns around 9000,000 acres, but until we get the first rains, they don't open their gates. But Oregon has 82% public lands, so our forests are vast.