Platinum Treasure!!! One Troy Once!!! Unique!!!

UnderMiner

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Final Edit 1/30/2015 : The test results are in: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/general-discussion/448872-platinum-fork-test-results.html

I found this fork a few days ago along with some other less expensive treasures (mostly various grades of silver). Completed my research today and have come to the stunning conclusion that this is in fact... a 95% pure Platinum fork - solid Platinum with a gold plating - made by Cartier. This very well may be one of the most expensive pieces of cutlery in existence. Considering it weights 30.9 grams (1/5th of a gram shy of 1 Troy Ounce) I think it may very well be the single largest piece of platinum ever posted to this website. It's certainly the biggest piece of platinum I've ever found! I'm still shaking from the rush!! :headbang:

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Here's the story. Over the past week I've been pounding that old site by the shore again and again but this time using the new ExCal-II. It was a bit of a learning curve as I'd only used my new ExCal-II once before this. What a difference. The sandy/salty soil was no problem for the ExCal-II and the deep signals were coming in loud and clear. Ended up finding a ton more artifacts (silver, copper, iron, more globs of lead) - all much deeper finds than my other detector was able to handle. No more 18th century pepper pots unfortunately (I was hoping for a trifecta). I did however find, among other things, a sterling silver mechanical pencil (Victorian-age from the looks of it), an 80% silver olive fork, three hand-carved sterling spoons, a pewter dish, some broken pieces of porcelain, glass, and even what looks like to be a piece of an old shoe. I will post all these finds and more later in one massive post once I'm sure I've unearthed everything.

Anyway, this post is about the crowning jewel of the finds so far - the Platinum fork. I dug it up shortly after finding the sterling mechanical pencil. When I first saw the platinum fork it was all black just like all the silver in that area. I rubbed the dirt off (I know, I'm still kicking myself for doing such a stupid thing) and it revealed a golden luster - I assumed it to be a gold plated fork of either silver or some other cheaper metal. Into the bag it went and the hunt continued. At the end of each day I would clean and photograph my finds. I noticed the "950" hallmark during this time a few days ago.

The "950" is stamped in an "upside-down shield". I first saw this mark when I examined the fork the day I found it. I assumed it to be a sterling mark for 95% silver. I checked online a few times but really I had pretty much concluded it just had to be a type of silver. Today I did some in depth research and discovered that there is absolutely no sterling mark that resembles this hallmark. I did further research of other precious metal hallmarks besides silver and was stunned - the mark was listed as one of 4 types of platinum hallmarks. According to my research this platinum hallmark represents the second highest purity of platinum - 95%!! There is a crown above the "950", a little symbol that looks like an "R" directly above the "950", and a little "M" to the right of the "950". On the right side of the fork it says "Made in France" and on the left side it says "Cartier". There is also what appears to be some kind of etched serial number, possibly "1040". The piece weights 30.9 grams - almost exactly one troy ounce making it worth just about $1,200 in melt value.

The unknown: How old is this piece? I've had trouble dating this piece as hallmark charts by Cartier don't appear online in detail.

One thing is for certain Cartier is not known for cranking out platinum cutlery. I have a feeling this may have been a custom made piece. If so it may be unimaginably rare and expensive. My feeling is that it is worth way over its melt value of $1.2K - perhaps its worth $5k+ who knows? I will have to get it professionally appraised. Until then the hunt continues!!! :D Arg! Now with all this new swag I feel like a true pirate! :skullflag: :blackbeard: :laughing7:

Edit: Okay, it's officially confirmed. What I initially thought was an "R" stamp is in fact a "PT" stamp, "PT" means Platinum! "PT 950 M" is a high-strength Platinum alloy. The M stands for the 5% other metal added with the Platinum most likely Ruthenium! I'm on cloud 9 right now! :D

Platinum stamp along with hallmark chart:
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Cartier markings along the sides:
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Fork on my scale, note 30.9 gram weight:
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Um... Underminer...
how heavy is it. ?
IS IT...
ALOT heavier than even if you thought it was gold ?
If so... yes platinum.
 

Yea, I know, it sucks having to run all the way to the bank vault to get my priceless fork and bring it back home to take a picture. Now I'm stuck guarding this priceless artifact in a house with no lock.

Sell the fork and buy a lock.
You probably could get a really good lock???
 

No one is going to fake/ forge a stamp for a cocktail shrimp/crab FORK.
Give me a break...
Out of all the the things to "peak" someones interest and be DESIRED... from Cartier...
I highly doubt it would be a fork of all things. heh
 

Yes I am serious... All it takes for banner is to have people vote banner without knowing if it is truly real??? Amazing.... Lets have Cartier verify this before we get excited... I hope its real too....

What is it with you T-Net people and these "banners"? It's not like it's giving you any more of a reward than what you've already dug out of the ground. A banner is no more a treasure than a diploma an education. What truly matters is the find, screw the glory, show me the gold! Or in this case, the Platinum! :D
 

What is it with you T-Net people and these "banners"? It's not like it's giving you any more of a reward than what you've already dug out of the ground. A banner is no more a treasure than a diploma an education. What truly matters is the find, screw the glory, show me the gold! Or in this case, the Platinum! :D

Under... are you calling Cartier tomorrow? If not, Why not? It will clear this up for all of us.... Thanks for calling... :) Praying for you... Big Smile....
 

Under... your in a corner and cant get out... Call Cartier tomorrow for us... Thanks ... Good luck!

Who do you think you are? The others are right, you can't push me around. I will have this thing looked into when ever I feel like it, and I'll post the findings whenever I feel like it.
 

Members have been there long enough to know our rules about attacking members.

" Don't attack, provoke, insult, or deliberately offend anyone."

Unless someone can produce proof otherwise to disprove OP it had better end now.


Posted From My $50 Tablet....
 

What is it with you T-Net people and these "banners"? It's not like it's giving you any more of a reward than what you've already dug out of the ground. A banner is no more a treasure than a diploma an education. What truly matters is the find, screw the glory, show me the gold! Or in this case, the Platinum! :D

"show you the gold"
Ok here is me at age 12 in 1980... AGAIN... heh
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One of the best days of my life.
 

One way to avoid all of this in the future is to take in situ pics or at minimum dirty pics of the finds. It's pretty obvious if somebody tries to fake dirty pics. This just helps to eliminate any and all questions. As I said earlier I also really enjoy seeing the pre and post cleaned pics. I'm amazed sometimes at how well a nasty old item can shine up.
 

I think the issue here is a lack of photos of the uncleaned relics. If I found a spot with multiple silver relics and other treasure, I would definitely record it for posterity. I would take before and after photos (and videos) of everything I found, especially if I was thinking about posting it here. Just my take on it.
 

The issue here is members are violating our rules!

masterjedi do not attack a member like this again.

Posted From My $50 Tablet....
 

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I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out. But your comment just made me feel sick... I've never felt so - ugh. I thought I had finally found a group of nice people to share my adventures with. So some rich person had a picnic long ago and lost his expensive picnic sh1t. Maybe there was a fire, maybe there was a storm - or some robbery, who knows? I posted the finds from this one dig site over the past few weeks that I thought you would all love reading about. I find some neat never before seen stuff - and all I get is sh1t from everyone. I wanted to make a special post with all the finds but it seems it's mob rule here. Well here's what you wanted: All the sh1t I dug from that spot on the North Shore, wow, real special. And yes, it is a damn expensive fork, why do you think I posted it? It may end up being worth more than any other single treasure ever posted here.
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Please Don't get upset ! I am not Attacking You.
You're somewhat new here.

I'm not sure what happened in this Thread :o
but I can't see your original pics in your first Post :(
Did you pull them ?

Your certainly welcome here But this comment confuses me.
I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out.

you can if you wish, But post it in "Best Finds" or "Relic Hunting"

as This is "Today's Finds"

in This forum we do expect posts to be as you find them.
Not a Week, 2 Weeks, Or a month later.

If you hunt tomorrow Post what you find within 24 Hours if Possible.
If you hunt the next day too, Post those within 24 Hours also If Possible

We do accept a post from last week if you only stop in once a week.
But Not because you want to wait and post a Whole weeks or months worth of finds at once.

If that is what Your Saying.

Anyway Nice Finds ! And Hopefully what ever is going on here That is Not
Sportsmanlike stops.
 

Sell the fork and buy a lock.
You probably could get a really good lock???

My vault is actually a shoe box. But now you believe it's a very expensive fork right? :D
 

You think someone is going to fake a shrimp cocktail fork...?
Out of all the things to fake by Cartier... a cocktail fork ? lol

I've seen fake large cents and colonial coppers posted here. If someone was inclined to fake a PENNY back in the day, why not a Cartier fork?
 

So if someone comes here posting a 5k fork, we can't question him about it? I never stated that HE faked it, so what's the problem?
 

So if someone comes here posting a 5k fork, we can't question him about it? I never stated that HE faked it, so what's the problem?

The problem Is This is Not Congratulating him on his Finds,
And IF I wish to warn you's of the Rules I will :laughing7:
 

So if someone comes here posting a 5k fork, we can't question him about it? I never stated that HE faked it, so what's the problem?

Read and follow our rules please....This applies to all who question the need to challenge members finds in open forum.

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Posted From My $50 Tablet....
 

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Congratulations on the 5k find! Great job! Banner all the way!
 

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