Platinum Treasure!!! One Troy Once!!! Unique!!!

UnderMiner

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Final Edit 1/30/2015 : The test results are in: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/general-discussion/448872-platinum-fork-test-results.html

I found this fork a few days ago along with some other less expensive treasures (mostly various grades of silver). Completed my research today and have come to the stunning conclusion that this is in fact... a 95% pure Platinum fork - solid Platinum with a gold plating - made by Cartier. This very well may be one of the most expensive pieces of cutlery in existence. Considering it weights 30.9 grams (1/5th of a gram shy of 1 Troy Ounce) I think it may very well be the single largest piece of platinum ever posted to this website. It's certainly the biggest piece of platinum I've ever found! I'm still shaking from the rush!! :headbang:

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Here's the story. Over the past week I've been pounding that old site by the shore again and again but this time using the new ExCal-II. It was a bit of a learning curve as I'd only used my new ExCal-II once before this. What a difference. The sandy/salty soil was no problem for the ExCal-II and the deep signals were coming in loud and clear. Ended up finding a ton more artifacts (silver, copper, iron, more globs of lead) - all much deeper finds than my other detector was able to handle. No more 18th century pepper pots unfortunately (I was hoping for a trifecta). I did however find, among other things, a sterling silver mechanical pencil (Victorian-age from the looks of it), an 80% silver olive fork, three hand-carved sterling spoons, a pewter dish, some broken pieces of porcelain, glass, and even what looks like to be a piece of an old shoe. I will post all these finds and more later in one massive post once I'm sure I've unearthed everything.

Anyway, this post is about the crowning jewel of the finds so far - the Platinum fork. I dug it up shortly after finding the sterling mechanical pencil. When I first saw the platinum fork it was all black just like all the silver in that area. I rubbed the dirt off (I know, I'm still kicking myself for doing such a stupid thing) and it revealed a golden luster - I assumed it to be a gold plated fork of either silver or some other cheaper metal. Into the bag it went and the hunt continued. At the end of each day I would clean and photograph my finds. I noticed the "950" hallmark during this time a few days ago.

The "950" is stamped in an "upside-down shield". I first saw this mark when I examined the fork the day I found it. I assumed it to be a sterling mark for 95% silver. I checked online a few times but really I had pretty much concluded it just had to be a type of silver. Today I did some in depth research and discovered that there is absolutely no sterling mark that resembles this hallmark. I did further research of other precious metal hallmarks besides silver and was stunned - the mark was listed as one of 4 types of platinum hallmarks. According to my research this platinum hallmark represents the second highest purity of platinum - 95%!! There is a crown above the "950", a little symbol that looks like an "R" directly above the "950", and a little "M" to the right of the "950". On the right side of the fork it says "Made in France" and on the left side it says "Cartier". There is also what appears to be some kind of etched serial number, possibly "1040". The piece weights 30.9 grams - almost exactly one troy ounce making it worth just about $1,200 in melt value.

The unknown: How old is this piece? I've had trouble dating this piece as hallmark charts by Cartier don't appear online in detail.

One thing is for certain Cartier is not known for cranking out platinum cutlery. I have a feeling this may have been a custom made piece. If so it may be unimaginably rare and expensive. My feeling is that it is worth way over its melt value of $1.2K - perhaps its worth $5k+ who knows? I will have to get it professionally appraised. Until then the hunt continues!!! :D Arg! Now with all this new swag I feel like a true pirate! :skullflag: :blackbeard: :laughing7:

Edit: Okay, it's officially confirmed. What I initially thought was an "R" stamp is in fact a "PT" stamp, "PT" means Platinum! "PT 950 M" is a high-strength Platinum alloy. The M stands for the 5% other metal added with the Platinum most likely Ruthenium! I'm on cloud 9 right now! :D

Platinum stamp along with hallmark chart:
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Cartier markings along the sides:
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Fork on my scale, note 30.9 gram weight:
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As far as this piece being "real"...
I have no doubt...
Does anyone here posting understand who Cartier was ?
heh
Tis real...
You need appraisel immediately.
DO NOT SCRAP !!!
Don't let some idiot test either.

Cartier was? LOL
 

Ahab... I have seen gold completely black...
I have seen gold that is almost white because it has so much encrustation all over it...
I have seen gold look like it is pink due to the additives...
I have seen some strange crap.
 

"I found this fork a few days ago along with some other less expensive treasures (mostly various grades of silver). Completed my research today and have come to the stunning conclusion that this is in fact... a 95% pure Platinum fork - solid Platinum with a gold plating - made by Cartier. This very well may be one of the most expensive pieces of cutlery in existence. Considering it weights 30.9 grams (1/5th of a gram shy of 1 Troy Ounce) I think it may very well be the single largest piece of platinum ever posted . "

Is it just me ? Any one else want to stick their neck out ?
I have re- read the rules and I am having difficulty with the evil troll that lives under my bridge . May we see the less expensive pieces of silver keep sakes and treasure that you mention in this thread , you know, the ones you have not posted ? Has there been a recent burglaries at the Rockefeller Estate or Gloria Vanderbilt's Mansion ?
I don't want to come across as skeptical but it is unbelievable and unusual that are you are finding thousands of dollars worth of extravagant items in the dirt every time you hunt . Not that anything is wrong with that .

Again these are great finds , but there has to be an explanation. I keep trying to figure this out , :icon_scratch: but something does not add up and
not sure how to comment when the find is possibly a 15 hundred dollar fork..............:dontknow:

I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out. But your comment just made me feel sick... I've never felt so - ugh. I thought I had finally found a group of nice people to share my adventures with. So some rich person had a picnic long ago and lost his expensive picnic sh1t. Maybe there was a fire, maybe there was a storm - or some robbery, who knows? I posted the finds from this one dig site over the past few weeks that I thought you would all love reading about. I find some neat never before seen stuff - and all I get is sh1t from everyone. I wanted to make a special post with all the finds but it seems it's mob rule here. Well here's what you wanted: All the sh1t I dug from that spot on the North Shore, wow, real special. And yes, it is a damn expensive fork, why do you think I posted it? It may end up being worth more than any other single treasure ever posted here.
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Ahab... I have seen gold completely black...
I have seen gold that is almost white because it has so much encrustation all over it...
I have seen gold look like it is pink due to the additives...
I have seen some strange crap.

Yup I agree. But I think it's the only thing that occasionally comes out looking clean and like it's original color.
 

Underminer... I believe what you say until I would know otherwise.
I take everything with a grain of salt...
I have seen and found thingS that blow what you have found so far away...
So I believe you.
I have seen the light so many times... I am blind to nothing.
 

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I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out. But your comment just made me feel sick... I've never felt so - ugh. I thought I had finally found a group of nice people to share my adventures with. So some rich person had a picnic long ago and lost his expensive picnic sh1t. Maybe there was a fire, maybe there was a storm - or some robbery, who knows? I posted the finds from this one dig site over the past few weeks that I thought you would all love reading about. I find some neat never before seen stuff - and all I get is sh1t from everyone. I wanted to make a special post with all the finds but it seems it's mob rule here. Well here's what you wanted: All the sh1t I dug from that spot on the North Shore, wow, real special. And yes, it is a damn expensive fork, why do you think I posted it? It may end up being worth more than any other single treasure ever posted here.
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I was in the business of buying and selling precious metals for over 20 years with my own store....
And have been detecting since the late 70's...
This stuff sure does not look like dug material?
I hope your fork is truly Platinum...
Are you going to call Cartier?
They can tell us all for sure...
I am praying for you :)
 

"I found this fork a few days ago along with some other less expensive treasures (mostly various grades of silver). Completed my research today and have come to the stunning conclusion that this is in fact... a 95% pure Platinum fork - solid Platinum with a gold plating - made by Cartier. This very well may be one of the most expensive pieces of cutlery in existence. Considering it weights 30.9 grams (1/5th of a gram shy of 1 Troy Ounce) I think it may very well be the single largest piece of platinum ever posted . "

Is it just me ? Any one else want to stick their neck out ?
I have re- read the rules and I am having difficulty with the evil troll that lives under my bridge . May we see the less expensive pieces of silver keep sakes and treasure that you mention in this thread , you know, the ones you have not posted ? Has there been a recent burglaries at the Rockefeller Estate or Gloria Vanderbilt's Mansion ?
I don't want to come across as skeptical but it is unbelievable and unusual that are you are finding thousands of dollars worth of extravagant items in the dirt every time you hunt . Not that anything is wrong with that .

Again these are great finds , but there has to be an explanation. I keep trying to figure this out , :icon_scratch: but something does not add up and
not sure how to comment when the find is possibly a 15 hundred dollar fork..............:dontknow:

And here's a pic of some of the "trash" hope you don't mind I didn't lay it out very nicely. In it you will see all the globs of lead and some copper junk and some of the cool iron bits.
Worry not, the hunt will go on, and in the end I will still post everything for all to see more clearly.
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Sweet.... we cannot wait to see it all... Great finds !
 

Underminer,

First and foremost I've seen some pretty awesome finds over my 20 years or so of detecting....and don't let the doubters get you down.

Heck a few years back Beau Ouimette found an awesome amount of Colonial silver coins and there were people questioning the authenticity of it.

You found what you found and please keep us up to date on the update on the testing....I hope you realize were not all dolts on the forum.

Regards + HH

Bill




I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out. But your comment just made me feel sick... I've never felt so - ugh. I thought I had finally found a group of nice people to share my adventures with. So some rich person had a picnic long ago and lost his expensive picnic sh1t. Maybe there was a fire, maybe there was a storm - or some robbery, who knows? I posted the finds from this one dig site over the past few weeks that I thought you would all love reading about. I find some neat never before seen stuff - and all I get is sh1t from everyone. I wanted to make a special post with all the finds but it seems it's mob rule here. Well here's what you wanted: All the sh1t I dug from that spot on the North Shore, wow, real special. And yes, it is a damn expensive fork, why do you think I posted it? It may end up being worth more than any other single treasure ever posted here.
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I was in the business of buying and selling precious metals for over 20 years with my own store....
And have been detecting since the late 70's...
This stuff sure does not look like dug material?
I hope your fork is truly Platinum...
Are you going to call Cartier?
They can tell us all for sure...
I am praying for you :)

Okay, that's it, I'm done with you.
 

I was hoping to post the entire hoard as one story when it was all dug out. But your comment just made me feel sick... I've never felt so - ugh. I thought I had finally found a group of nice people to share my adventures with. So some rich person had a picnic long ago and lost his expensive picnic sh1t. Maybe there was a fire, maybe there was a storm - or some robbery, who knows? I posted the finds from this one dig site over the past few weeks that I thought you would all love reading about. I find some neat never before seen stuff - and all I get is sh1t from everyone. I wanted to make a special post with all the finds but it seems it's mob rule here. Well here's what you wanted: All the sh1t I dug from that spot on the North Shore, wow, real special. And yes, it is a damn expensive fork, why do you think I posted it? It may end up being worth more than any other single treasure ever posted here.
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So a few people have questions concerning your amazing good luck and you go off the deep end and act as though everyone here is calling you a liar. It seems a bit of an overreaction. Most people have been quite supportive.

Your finds are over the top incredible. Of course some of us will wonder about the circumstances that got them there.

Also, why are you sure there is more? And I am glad you were able to retrieve the fork from the vault for the pictures.
 

Underminer,

Do me a favor and don't back down....you did a lot of work and research to find these keepers.

Song to follow.



Regards + HH

Bill
 

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That's it...
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I have had enough.............
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I vote BANNER AGAIN !!! heh :)
 

That's it...
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I have had enough.............
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I vote BANNER AGAIN !!! heh :)

Your voting Banner and you don't even know if its Platinum yet? :)
 

So a few people have questions concerning your amazing good luck and you go off the deep end and act as though everyone here is calling you a liar. It seems a bit of an overreaction. Most people have been quite supportive.

Your finds are over the top incredible. Of course some of us will wonder about the circumstances that got them there.

Also, why are you sure there is more? And I am glad you were able to retrieve the fork from the vault for the pictures.

Yea, I know, it sucks having to run all the way to the bank vault to get my priceless fork and bring it back home to take a picture. Now I'm stuck guarding this priceless artifact in a house with no lock.
 

Um...
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I am speechless...
Are you serious ? heh

Yes I am serious... All it takes for banner is to have people vote banner without knowing if it is truly real??? Amazing.... Lets have Cartier verify this before we get excited... I hope its real too....
 

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