Opinions on this KGC "Vault"

[Shortstack]

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Swiftsearcher:

That was no attack. Why do you say the nays are attacking you? When
grownups debate historical theory it's not personal. I was trying to wake
you up about using sacred text to further your ambitions. If you won't listen,
so be it.

lastleg

The "text" itself is not sacred. The MEANING of the text is what's sacred. We read the HOLY Bible, not the SACRED Bible because 100 theologians, under threat of death, put together that document, so we are obligated to read the other texts from biblical times, such as the Book of Jasher and the Book of Jubilees; also, the Book of Enoch to name just 3. When we can read and study ALL of the biblical texts, we can better understand the world as it existed when Jesus walked the earth. Some of those writings have some very interesting information that have little to do with religion, but alot to do with the hidden relics and valuables of some organizations of that day. The Church and the Pharisees were very wealthy and it wasn't from taxing the people. Where'd they get the gold and what did they DO with it? Between the Romans and the Babylonians, a large amount of it was confiscated, but you can bet they didn't get it all.

Now, some folks, such as Swiftsearcher, have read and studied HISTORY and followed certain leads from different sources and believe there is wealth hidden in the present day U.S.A. Some may be from the Old World, but much was developed here and stored away. There are a few people on this forum who don't believe SS and others know what they are doing. That is fine. Say so, THEN MOVE ALONG. It gets damned boring when these people consistently post the same old neg. opinions over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and..................................wheeeoo! I got stuck in the SWR modis operandi there for a moment. soooorrrrrrrrwwwweeeee.

 

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[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

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And mine swr.

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[lastleg]

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Shortstack:

Thanks for responding. So you think the Inspired Word is not sacred?
And that 100 theologians put together the Holy Bible. That would have been
in 325 AD at the Counsel of Nicea assembled by Constantine? At that time
the Apocrypha was debated and not included in the final work? Was that an
injustice or were these writings Uninspired? Such as the "Lost Gospel of Judas"
exploited by National Geographic on secular television.
In my opinion a person either believes the Word (sacred text, my words) or does not. It stands as our link to Jehova and Creation. The historical value
has stood the test of time. Many have tried to deny and descredit the Word
and will continue to do so. The language and text of man's history and future
are complete. To add to or subtract from is condemned in the Revelation of
John. And so it is up to each to welcome or deny.
To those such as I, who revelled in the pleasure of life for a season, came to
realize it was all for naught with nothing but death a reward. I found that I
was not the master of my ship, the captain of my soul for as He said "Come to me, you who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest. Take my yoke
upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you
will find rest for your souls. For MY yoke is easy and My burden is light."

I have decided not to burden any of you further in foolish banter. Was fun
while it lasted but the thread has turned sour. I'll still be around the forums
in a more positive mode.

lastleg

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Swiftsearcher:

That was no attack. Why do you say the nays are attacking you? When
grownups debate historical theory it's not personal. I was trying to wake
you up about using sacred text to further your ambitions. If you won't listen,
so be it.

lastleg

Lastleg,

I have NEVER added to nor taken away from the Bible, or other Religious texts to "further my cause" as you suggest! I have, in fact, warned Mormon friends that the Book of Mormon was blasphemous for doing exactly the thing you are suggesting I have done and refer them to the following verse from Revelation! I get these verses from an online King James Bible source. If there is a mistake, I admit I should have caught it before posting. However, I have NEVER added to nor subtracted from the Bible or any Religious text!

REV 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


Please show me one instance where I have added to or subtracted from the Bible. If I have, it was definitely a mistake and I will ask THE EVER LIVING GOD to forgive me IMMEDIATELY! BTW - I have NO ambition here to further. If you will read this thread, I have been asking questions in order to get to the bottom of this. There is NOTHING wrong if the search leads to using Biblical Scripture. In fact, hopefully, it will bring KGC hunters closer to Jesus! Here is a verse you need to read!

MT 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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WHAT? !!! You wanna bring TH'ers to JESUS? This "thread" is beginning to smell like the old RELIGION "thread"... outta here!

 

[tesoro dog]

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GUYS!! I APOLOGIZE FOR BUSTING IN,, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH STILDIGN, ABOUT swr BEING ILLUMINATI!! HE "IS" IN THERE SOMEWHERE,, BUT AT A VERY LOWLY POSITION,, OPENING MAIL, TAKING OUT TRASH AND SUCH,, HE PUTS TOO MUCH TIME INTO WHAT HE DOES,, HE GETS PAID!! MAYBE CASH, GOLD, SILVER, MAYBE CHEETOS !! HE'S A HUMAN MONKEY WRENCH!! HA!! YOU KNOW,, YOU GOTTA GET THAT CAN OF RAID OUT FROM UNDER THE KITCHEN SINK ONCE IN A WHILE!! HEY! I JUST HAD A GREAT IDEA,, IF I EVER MAKE ENTRY,, GUESS WHO I AM GOING TO SEND IN TO TRIP THE TRAPS!!

THIS IS A GREAT THREAD,, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT PHOENECIANS AND ALL THAT,, BUT I DO SEE THINGS OUT IN THE BUSH, THINGS THAT SHOW HISTORY BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED,, STUFF THATS BEEN THERE SINCE THE CREATION!! I BELIEVE THESE ARE SOME OF THE SECRETS THE ILLUMINATI, PRIDE THEMSELVES ON KNOWING!! REMEMBER swr, " ALL THINGS HIDDEN WILL BE MADE KNOWN " WORLD WITHOUT END, AMEN!! td AGAIN MY APOLOGIES TO ALL TRUE TREASURE HUNTERS AND ESPECIALLY TO SWIFTSEARCHER!!!

 

[Shortstack]

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lastleg, all books of the Bible are not inspired by God. They are historical information. I KNOW that God is real and Jesus is my Lord and Savior.

Now, please STOP trying to turn this very interesting thread into a religion thread. Swiftsearcher has posted that he believes certain things, including the biblical scriptures and I agree with him. There are things he has come to believe that have not been grasped by many scholars, that should be investigated by other historians and biblical scholars WITHOUT initial SNIDE remarks. The information he has found cannot be denied as truly intriguing and I, for one, would like to continue with evaluating the vault.

If you or anyone else throws too much "religion" onto this thread, the Mod will delete the whole thing. Rebel-KGC and I tried to discuss biblical HISTORY; the people who lived then and what they supposedly did and scientific FACTS that proves Intelligent Design, but even as innocent as that was all it took was one complaint that we were discussing the forbidden "R" , "G", "J", and "C" words and the whole post was deleted.

Again, do not give the whiners ammo to hold up to the Mod about THIS thread. This thread is not only very interesting, but is also very informative; if you'll broaden your perspective.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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SWR... LOL! Ss, very true... and it WILL happen here. I have noticed a "personality change" in Sws... First was the "Melungeons thingy", SECOND & NOW, this "condemning the Mormons", etc. that DEFIES "Judge ye not... lest ye be judged" thingy (NO "B" word here...). SO! I MAY "lurk" around here, and MAY only respond, if I am "mentioned". I AM very much interested in "The Vault", and would continue to "look in"... AND! Do my own R & I. NO CAMP meetings, NO Camp KUM-BAH-YA, NO ("B" word here...) study, around MY campfire; MY "fellow-
shipping" will be with OTHER TH'ers, swapping tales of TH'ing "out-in-the-field", NOW!
(Getting my "cowboy coffee" now...); aaahhh, da campfire, on a COLD morning.
8) Gonna "look for" things like THIS... http://www.burlingtonnews.net/jscott.html Coffee? 8)

 

[swiftsearcher]

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SWR... LOL! Ss, very true... and it WILL happen here. I have noticed a "personality change" in Sws... First was the "Melungeons thingy", SECOND & NOW, this "condemning the Mormons", etc. that DEFIES "Judge ye not... lest ye be judged" thingy (NO "B" word here...). SO! I MAY "lurk" around here, and MAY only respond, if I am "mentioned". I AM very much interested in "The Vault", and would continue to "look in"... AND! Do my own R & I. NO CAMP meetings, NO Camp KUM-BAH-YA, NO ("B" word here...) study, around MY campfire; MY "fellow-
shipping" will be with OTHER TH'ers, swapping tales of TH'ing "out-in-the-field", NOW!
(Getting my "cowboy coffee" now...); aaahhh, da campfire, on a COLD morning.
8) Gonna "look for" things like THIS... http://www.burlingtonnews.net/jscott.html Coffee? 8)

Rebel, sorry if you have noticed a personality change. I do admit, I have been including too much Religious information in my posts here and will tone it down, as Religious beliefs are strong and have caused many arguments/wars over the centuries. This is NOT the place for it, except mentioning how certain signs and related things relate to the Bible.

As you mentioned about the two conflicting (what I presented to some Mormon friends and not judging), it did take me a while to show my Mormon friends the passage in Revelation, as I debated it within, b/c of the passage of not judging. In the end I simply showed them the passage in Revelation and asked if they believe the Book of Mormon was an addition to the Word. As anyone knows, they are the ones who try to push their views on the rest of us - going from home to home, so I felt it justified to warn these people, along with passages where Jesus warns of future False Prophets. In the end, we agreed to disagree. And, as I stated to them, they are the ones who will have to face judgement, and if they are fine with things, it is between Jesus and them, not me. For the record, we are still friends to this day.

As for my statement about researching the Bible and KGC bringing one closer to Jesus, I will have to stick by that one, as it has myself. I now study the Bible on the average of two hours or so each day. This started with simply looking up some passages related to my KGC site and has grown. This statement I will not apologize for, as I have been blessed with my new relationship with THE EVER LIVING GOD and this was worth more to me than anything inside the vault or any treasure on Earth!

T-Dog, you do not have to apologize to me for your statement. I truly believe you are correct about information increasing and eventually all things being made known to those willing to study/research in the end times.

MT 13:43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

 

[stevesno]

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Scott...I dont feel that you are trying to sway anyones beliefs....You are sharing information with us that you have stumbled upon while doing research....It's a connect the dots game....you have shown how several dots can be connected.. sometimes loosely....others can show the same dots connected to form a complete different interpretation...one that best suits their beliefs!

One needs to be objective and have an open mind, instead of pointing a finger and saying flat out that a theory is wrong!....Everyone needs to play nice.....share their theory.... and debate it....instead of pointing a finger and declaring their theory the correct one and all others wrong...Steve

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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OK, ALL I wanna know if KGC/ "B" verses have been found, and how YOU "interpreted" them...

 

[swiftsearcher]

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One example is from the 4 and two 7's at the stones on the vault that were covering the two pillars, I interpreted them (with some help from a T-Net member who pointed me to the 4th book of the Bible), as being Numbers 7:7 (see verse below). I interpreted this as relating to Quantrill and Sue Munday given the three wagons (one had to be emptied to take a wounded JJ to seek help and the contents loaded onto four pack animals = two wagons and four pack animals, as in Numbers 7:7) with their contents to be placed inside the vault. The Sons of Gershon, I interpreted as a reference to the Sons of Liberty.


NUM 7:7 Two wagons and four oxen he gave unto the sons of Gershon, according to their service

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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GOOD! THAT the sorta thing, I'm looking for!! The "G" seen at MANY "sites"...
COULD mean GERSHON... Here is the "COMPLEXING" thing... KJV "B" came out in 1608 or so;
MAYBE done by Francis Bacon... FreeMason, Rosicrucian, etc. with his "code" POSSIBLY "put in place".
AND! Prior to that, we have the JERUSALEM "B", for RC. AND! Prior to ALL that... we have the TORAH, NEVI'IM, KETHUVIM... I am "studying" the JEWISH STUDY "B"; specially, THE FIVE MEGILLOT (scrolls); the HEBREW "letters" are interesting. King Solomon's Temple is the "theme" of the BLUE LODGE... followed by the YORK RITE; STILL following up on that. The ORIGINAL Knights
TEMPLARS were the guardians, AFTER... what was found!

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Great post Rebel - as usual, you are very informative.

I just finished reading a great book on Solomon's Temple by E. Raymond Capt. (as well as a couple other books by him on Stonehenge and Druidism and Glastonbury). I plan to purchase all of his books I don't have with my next order, as they have helped tremendously in my research (link provided below in case anyone else is interested in purchasing any for their library/study).

http://www.destinypublishers.com/index.asp

I am elated you mentioned Bacon, as I have failed to study him as I promised myself I would (totally slipped my mind). I need to start and purchase all of his works I can as well, as alchemy, I believe also plays a large role in this research.

 

[ghostdog]

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Rebel & SS,"Right ",Francis Bacon, and his relatives in Virgina. This is part of the right road to follow, leads to our U.S. Constitution. Rebel interesting web page you posted, now I"m really confused.Thats good though,think I will have a beer,instaed of

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Here is a relevant link:

http://www.ascension-research.org/Quest_for_Sacred_Treasure_Vaults_of_Francis_Bacon.html

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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Guys, I think we are beginning to BREAK "THE VAULT CODE"; Sws, FYI...http://www.fbrt.org.uk/pages/essays/essays-ciphers.html Do not need to buy MORE
books; just do research "on-line"... FREE info. For R & I... "google" FRANCIS BACON CIPHERS

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Rebel, I believe we are truly breaking the code here! The Queen, it seems relates to Elizabeth I.

I have promised everyone involved equal shares, with me getting first pick, since I found the site and going from there. I don't know if I want the Holy Grail or Book of Thoth however? What do you suggest I pick Rebel?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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HA! Pick the Holy Grail... it has Power of Healing & WISDOM. "Google" FRANCIS
BACON RESEARCH TRUST

 

[swiftsearcher]

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My thoughts exactly - plus, you already know what a "Holy Roller" I am!