Opinions on this KGC "Vault"

[Rebel - KGC]

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GREAT idea! I got YOU on "ignore"... and ss should too; THAT may stop the "bickering". That way, ss and I can "carry on"; THIS "Vault" is TOO important to be lost in
the "crap" that being "tossed about".

 

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[Texas Jay]

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Vamelungeon said:

"I've been a Master Mason for all of my adult life (decades), have advanced in the craft and have an extensive masonic library,..."

Perhaps the poster would like to loosen his tongue a bit more and just honestly state how far in the Masons he has "advanced in the craft" during these "decades"? 13th Degree, 32nd Degree, or 33rd Degree maybe?
~Texas Jay

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

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HI swr: I would never put you on ignore. hehe I enjoy your posts, even if I disagree with most.

For example--> "Posting events that happens on another thread is oh so overrated and petty"
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Why??. Isn't 'all' posted data copied from somewhere else?

Don Jose de La Mancha

 

[Texas Jay]

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It has everything to do with this thread. Vamelungeon brought it onto this thread and it goes right to the heart of the matter: KGC/Freemason connection.
~Texas Jay

 

[Shortstack]

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Back to the vault.

Swiftsearcher, that sinkhole business has to involve a series of mines / caves. How else would a sinkhole form on a mountain top?

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Vamelungeon, here is your EXACT post below (in red and black). You certainly make it sound as if you are a "high-ranking" mason in the post IMHO! As you would state, these are YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE! You state I "make mountains out of molehills. However, I don't outright LIE, as you do! In the post below, you wanted people to believe you were some high-ranking mason with an extensive library and knowledge. However, now that that "high-rank" is not suitable, you want to lie and state these were my words and not yours. Again, below is your post and people can see for themselves who is making mountains out of molehills and who is OUTRIGHT LYING at his convenience to suit his post (the part about you being a "Master Mason" and your "extensive library" are in red)! BTW - "Master Mason" sounds like a "high-rank" to me!


I've been a Master Mason for all of my adult life (decades), have advanced in the craft and have an extensive masonic library, and I just have to bite my tongue when I see some of the misinformation that I've seen about Masons here on treasure net. It really makes me cringe. Now I'll be attacked or called a "naysayer" but that's fine. I'm just trying to defend myself and my fellow freemasons against all this poppycock and pure fantasy nonsense.

Master Mason means 3rd degree. You're not a mason until you take the 3rd degree. All masons are master masons.
I've got you on ignore, and I'm done with you.

Well, if you are only a 3rd degree mason after your DECADES of advancement, maybe you should take the remedial classes and spend more time in that "extensive library"!

SWR - you are correct, the purpose of this forum is to exchange information. Remember that the next time you think something stated is "oh so overrated and petty". Oh, and btw, things would not get so overrated and petty if people would quit hijacking threads to announce their displeasure with a post or poster. I could go through this entire thread and would be hard pressed to find one constructive sentence from you on topic or with any pertinent information!

Shortstack - thanks for the heads up! If there is anything of value there related to carvings/markers/etc., I will get us some pics, should I be able to make it this winter.

SWR - I didn't know you were a moderator or administrator on this forum to tell others what they can or cannot post in threads When did you get this promotion?

 

[swiftsearcher]

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It has everything to do with this thread. Vamelungeon brought it onto this thread and it goes right to the heart of the matter: KGC/Freemason connection.
~Texas Jay

Nope....the Freemason battle is being fought over on one of the Swift threads.

Swiftsearcher brought it over here in hopes of running a smear campaign. Vamelungeon did not bring it onto this thread

So, SWR, now you can read my mind, as to my reasoning for bringing the information into this thread? Hate to burst your bubble yet again, the connection stuck out not only to me, but Ralph, so I posted it to get others' opinions. Like it or not, there is a STRONG Masonic connection to the KGC, so it does belong here. As a matter of fact, I started this thread. If I want to talk about Barbie collecting (now, that would be right up your alley, wouldn't it! ), I believe I would have the right to do so in the thread I started!

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Even though those sites only contain some "basics", that was a good contribution SRW!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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LOL...

 

[Shortstack]

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Swiftsearcher said: Well, if you are only a 3rd degree mason after your DECADES of advancement, maybe you should take the remedial classes and spend more time in that "extensive library"!


I'll repeat myself: "Great minds think alike." That thought went through my mind, too. I mean, they were his words and in the order he wrote them. Also, SWR has a lot of gall telling you what you can and cannot post to a thread YOU started. Ahhhhhh, the gift that keeps on giving.
And, NO, I didn't bring up SWR's post. I read it when Ss quoted it. His comments just reemphasizes why I put him on "ignore".

Say, Swiftsearcher, the opening(s) to the mines / caves that allowed those sinkholes just MAY be on the land parcels next door. As in, maybe, your friend's place.

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

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Hi mi buddy swr: you posted -->

"Ahhh...this guy just can't get SWR off his mind"
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Nor I, next to my buddy OMAR, and his lil book, yer my fav read.
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Don Jose de La Macha

 

[truckinbutch]

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Gracious ! Folks sure have been testy here , today . Mebbie the change in the weather or the moon .
One thing is always constant and that's SWR . He is always the same on any thread and not worth the
effort of a mouse click to IGNORE . Every site needs a bit of comedy .
VAM put Scott on IGNORE ,so perhaps he's gone from Scott's thread as well .
I am not a member of the craft and will say nothing to disparage them . I respect the overall aspect of honor and protecting a brother .
My father , my fatherinlaw , and a neighbor, and many family members are deeply involved and have
been for many decades . I've never asked them to reveal what they have learned after they swore their honor to their organization . I could approach for membership and if accepted ; in time , much of
this could be revealed to me , I suppose .
None of them have told me to stay away from this trail . All have advised caution ...
Discussing it with my 83 year old Dad yesterday his words were ,
"Boy , you used to be good at killin and not gettin killed . If you're gonna follow this I hope you still are."

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Here is a bone for you guys. Rebel mentioned this might be one of the Four Queens' depositories. Well, here is what looks to me like a Queen's Head Rock.

 

[stevesno]

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Scott...I think that you nailed this one! I never had any doubt, but this confirms it for me...Congrats, Steve

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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HA! That DOES look like Queen Victoria (UK), doesn't it? Here's what I
think you got... The "BRIT" loan to CSA (GOLD coins... BRIT STERLINGS), and MAYBE some REBEL "assets" of weapons, etc. It would be "dated" about 1885, and "connected" to the BEALE TREASURE, which MAY have been a "code" for REBEL "assets" (including CSA Treasury, or PARTS
"there-of").... see Peter Viemeister's book: CONFEDERATE TREASURE COVERUP: DUTY, HONOR, &
DECEIT. 8)

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Rebel, thanks for your input! I have that book and have read it a few years back. I always thought it was fiction, but will go back and see what I could have missed - thanks again!

Steve - thanks for the kind words! I won't consider it "nailed", until I am inside however. I think, in the end, the outcome will probably make a lot of people angry if they know it. As you know, I started out hunting Swift's Mines, found KGC markers, a map in a cave near one of the mines, then this vault and several other unexpected finds. There is a "connection" to all of these and the outcome will surprise many (including myself) and will make a lot of people angry (some that I put the dots together and others b/c things aren't like they seem on the surface). Reality IS stranger than fiction and I want to eventually prove it!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

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HA! It IS fiction, based on facts... FACTION!

 

[swiftsearcher]

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Rebel, my opinion so far (which has been influenced by things not posted here of course and seeing things in person) is that what I have found is MUCH OLDER than the "treasure" you mentioned (though, I certainly would NOT argue if it turned out to be as you state).

I will give a "hint" as to what I think is here somewhere inside this complex system I have stumbled across. Swift mentions the "Scots" many times (IMPORTANT - SCOTTISH HISTORY AND FREEMASONRY!). We have a "Queen" involved with bee symbology. We have Templar/Masonic connections. We have something SO IMPORTANT being shipped to Swift and Company from the Scots that the Scots were able to get excess payments out of Swift for the DELIVERY of this something. We have a "vault" with much symbology in the area of one of the mines. We have Swift going to Britain and being put into prison for SOMETHING. We have SOMETHING that was hidden in a "cave complex" or "vault" that was SO VALUABLE to Swift that he killed his party to possess it by himself! I am NOT going to give the answer here, but you guys/gals are suppose to be treasure hunters - let us see if you can figure this one out!? TBH, I have several "guesses" myself. However, as I have stated, the ONLY way to know for certain will be when I/we finally enter the chambers and see things with our own eyes!

I will give a couple extra hints that will help in anyone's guessing/research and that I have been researching myself. I believe the answer lies in the US being the New Jerusalem and you can research the "Lost Tribes" and Anglo-Israelism and the migrations of the Tribes, as I have, and God's promise to the Israelites in the Old Testament. Remember, God mentions the "isles" when referring to the Israelites as well!

 

[swiftsearcher]

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One last thing - when thinking of the "Queen", think NOT of the country she represented, but the country's ORIGIN (origin of its people and the Royal Line)!

 

[swiftsearcher]

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HA! That DOES look like Queen Victoria (UK), doesn't it? Here's what I
think you got... The "BRIT" loan to CSA (GOLD coins... BRIT STERLINGS), and MAYBE some REBEL "assets" of weapons, etc. It would be "dated" about 1885, and "connected" to the BEALE TREASURE, which MAY have been a "code" for REBEL "assets" (including CSA Treasury, or PARTS
"there-of").... see Peter Viemeister's book: CONFEDERATE TREASURE COVERUP: DUTY, HONOR, &
DECEIT. 8)

OK, this post might be hard to follow, unless you have followed my posts in the past (So, SWR, you should be able to follow closely ).

As many of you know, I have mentioned before in other threads (and maybe this one even) about early Phoenicians and Israelites in this country mining/obtaining ore. I have also mentioned about the "Phoenician connection" to the Melungeons. Well, "VAmelungeon" attacked me for this, stating Melungeons were of Portuguese descent and claiming to be some "all-knowing mason with a huge masonic library". I then pointed out the connection between Phoenicians and the Portuguese (with the Phoenicians RULING Portugal for nearly 800 years). Well, "VAmelungeon" told me to simply research him on the net by Googling his name and "Melungeon". I have. I have also found some interesting names in this association as well!

To make a long series of my "theories" short, I believe that early Israelites and Phoenicians mined ore in this country for Solomon. I believe the Melungeons' ancestors were well aware of these mines and even helped (especially since the Melungeons have such a rich heritage of ancestors), thus we have many Melungeon counterfeiters in the 1700's and 1800's (Sol Mullins, Brandy Jack, etc.). So, we have established the connection with the Melungeons and EARLY mining in the United States (via the Israelite and Phoenician connection) and the Melungeon knowledge of these mines (with their counterfeiting activities).

So, if anything Religious in nature was hidden in this country MANY years ago, related to The EVER LIVING GOD's "Promised Land" or "New Jerusalem" and a future "United States", it stands to reason that the Melungeons would also be aware of this as well (which would explain why many are Masons, as VAmelungeon claims to be). In fact, some of these Melungeons might have even been early Sentinels of these caches!

As Rebel and I have stated before, there is more to MANY older "Treasure Legends" than meets the eye (Pesher Codes, allegory in Masonic stories, etc.). One of these, Rebel has mentioned to be the Beale Treasure. Well, while researching "VAmelungeon" for a friend today, I ran across the following Melungeon below with an interesting last name, to say the least!

Also, as I have mentioned before I had a couple older neighbors whom I believe guarded "something" on another property - one's name was Goins (who was a Mason, Shriner, etc. etc.). While researching "VAmelungeon", I came across many Goins on the various Melungeon websites related to "VAmelungeon"!

Before the naysayers attack me, let me state that I am ONLY pointing out these coincidences and letting people draw their own conclusions, with regard to these Melungeons and their names. There is no doubt as to the Melungeons connection with early Phoenicians and with Freemasonry and with early mines/mining and with early treasure legends - any good treasure hunter knows these facts. The question is, why did "VAmelungeon" get so irate with my posts? I am getting close to something?.......the TRUTH maybe?



Melungeon researcher Calvin L. Beale